Quote from: Snowman0147;1112648The only way to fix Star Wars now is for Disney to sell it off to people who are not political fanatics, have these people say the Disney canon is false, fire Kathleen, fire her followers, bring back the expanded universe as canon as it was, and continue on a few thousand years later in the future of Star Wars.  Given Knights of the Old Republic was four thousand years in the past it would be nice to see Star Wars four thousand years after the first trilogy.  New jedis, new siths, and new stories of good vs evil to tell to the next generation without bullshit that politics bring.  Keep it with the classical hero of the thousand faces structure, but without it being a the repeat of the first trilogy.

EDIT: Actually I am going to take that idea for my own setting and skip the Star Wars bit.

I like this a lot. As long as it brings back the hopefulness of the OT, and people to root for in spite of their flaws. Also please have Dave Filoni and Timothy Zahn write it.

I was baffled by the series of articles that started coming out around TLJ (IIRC) that Star Wars fundamentally has no place to go and is a boring and closed universe. Really? It's a sandbox with some mythology and rules of magic, effectively.

I re-watched An American Tail a while back, which was one of my favorite movies when I was a little kid. I was shocked to see Kathleen Kennedy in the credits, but I guess she did work with Spielberg a fair bit.

Agenda-driven resentment is a terrible thing. I don't generally believe in hard and fast rules, but it does seem to consistently make art bad.

Quote from: insubordinate polyhedral;1112688I was baffled by the series of articles that started coming out around TLJ (IIRC) that Star Wars fundamentally has no place to go and is a boring and closed universe. Really? It's a sandbox with some mythology and rules of magic, effectively.

Yep. Star Wars has lots of places to go. The problem is lazy story, mindless action and overwrought drama dominates the movies nowadays. *Shakes cane*

There's no way to fix star wars until our culture fixes what's gone horribly wrong with it.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1112771There's no way to fix star wars until our culture fixes what's gone horribly wrong with it.

I'll go one better. Star Wars is dead, murdered by Kathleen Kennedy and her willing accomplices. Until our culture returns to health, Star Wars cannot be reincarnated in any healthy form.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1112771There's no way to fix star wars until our culture fixes what's gone horribly wrong with it.

Thus why I put down the edit.

Star Wars died in 1999. Time to stop crying about it, otherwise just bite your tongue and hand over your MouseBucks.

Quote from: Antiquation!;1112788Star Wars died in 1999.

The "Not-So-Special Editions" killed Star Wars in 1997 deader than any Prequel or Sequel since they irrevocably altered the originals, for the much worse. The fact that George destroyed the original prints is an unforgivable sin.

If Disney is able to unearth and release the Original Trilogy in unaltered form, I will forever be grateful to our corporate media overlord, Disney be thy name.

In Mouse-Bucks we trust.

Quote from: Kael;1112796The "Not-So-Special Editions" killed Star Wars in 1997 deader than any Prequel or Sequel since they irrevocably altered the originals, for the much worse. The fact that George destroyed the original prints is an unforgivable sin.

If Disney is able to unearth and release the Original Trilogy in unaltered form, I will forever be grateful to our corporate media overlord, Disney be thy name.

In Mouse-Bucks we trust.

I do agree with you: it died in '97, and destruction of the originals is an unpardonable sin. :mad: I jumped off the SW Love Train right then. The prequel trilogy just cemented my disgust. The sequel trilogy is the fart in the face to the blinkered faithful.

Basically we are part of the bleeding-edge-hip "I was over Star Wars before thou" club. :cool:

Quote from: Opaopajr;1112798Basically we are part of the bleeding-edge-hip "I was over Star Wars before thou" club. :cool:

I still have my original club membership cards in the form of Special Edition movie ticket stubs that I recently found in an old shoebox. I was so hype, then so disappointed after seeing those in the theater back in '97-99.

I still bought the VHS tapes, then DVD's, then Prequel DVD's, then a 6-episode Blu-Ray boxset. So who's the sucker now? I've seen every Star Wars movie in the theater, and I'm not gonna stop now, because I hate my money.

Bitch, whine, and moan all you want. Just because TLJ was a shitshow and TFA was derivative Mary Sueism, does not mean that Star Wars: Rebels wasn't great or that Rogue One wasn't awesome or that Solo wasn't worth the money. This is Disney's learning curve and as long as fans keep voting with their dollars then the House of Mouse will learn.

Rogue One was a fun "WEG d6 Star Wars: The Movie!" - I could practically see those Force Points being spent.

Quote from: jeff37923;1112829Bitch, whine, and moan all you want. Just because TLJ was a shitshow and TFA was derivative Mary Sueism, does not mean that Star Wars: Rebels wasn't great or that Rogue One wasn't awesome or that Solo wasn't worth the money. This is Disney's learning curve and as long as fans keep voting with their dollars then the House of Mouse will learn.

/massive Rogue One explosion in the background as I soliliquy, a la Forest Whitaker

I stopped clapping for Tinkerbell decades ago. Bereft of the current stream, I stand firm amid the pool of my discontent consoled with my glorious memories of what has been...

/BOOOOOO

...and with fellow travelers stranded alike, we shall laugh as comes our doom. We shall count pips on our skill tests as we gawp at Colecovision-esque comp displays, Life Day holiday special holograms, and wookie disco-pr0n...

/OOOOOO

...For our rebellion was a sacrifice worth embarking, as I have finally come to understand, and here my story rests. Go forth Bothans!, bring a new age from the ashes of this Imperial tyranny, knowing I shall be with...

/OOOOOOM!

*transmission cuts out*

Quote from: Kael;1112796The "Not-So-Special Editions" killed Star Wars in 1997 deader than any Prequel or Sequel since they irrevocably altered the originals, for the much worse. The fact that George destroyed the original prints is an unforgivable sin.

If Disney is able to unearth and release the Original Trilogy in unaltered form, I will forever be grateful to our corporate media overlord, Disney be thy name.

In Mouse-Bucks we trust.

Egads! I had completely forgotten about those, what horrific and confounding alterations and they've aged even more poorly now. You are absolutely right, thank you for correcting Time Of Death.

Quote from: Antiquation!;1112947Egads! I had completely forgotten about those, what horrific and confounding alterations and they've aged even more poorly now. You are absolutely right, thank you for correcting Time Of Death.

This is why I laugh my ass off at George Litigation Lucas crying boo-hoo-hoo at mean ol Disney messing with his 'vision'. Karma.

Quote from: Omega;1113188This is why I laugh my ass off at George Litigation Lucas crying boo-hoo-hoo at mean ol Disney messing with his 'vision'. Karma.

I cheered when Andrew Ainsworth won his copyright case against Lucas. Ol' Georgie can stay as salty as he wants about Mouse Wars for all I care. Go make another Red Tails you hack.