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Name Four Tabletop RPGs That Are Better Than Dungeons & Dragons

Started by jeff37923, March 28, 2022, 10:57:38 AM

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Armchair Gamer

#120
April 06, 2022, 08:44:17 PM
Quote from: Trond on April 06, 2022, 07:03:56 PM
The quote is probably 100 years old. Who is Chesterton talking about? Communists?

  Anarchists. But I see philosophical commonalities between many of the revolutionary movements of the past few centuries. "Always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow takes another shape and grows again." :)

Steven Mitchell

#121
April 06, 2022, 09:52:02 PM Last Edit: April 07, 2022, 08:17:01 AM by Steven Mitchell
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on April 06, 2022, 08:44:17 PM
Quote from: Trond on April 06, 2022, 07:03:56 PM
The quote is probably 100 years old. Who is Chesterton talking about? Communists?

  Anarchists. But I see philosophical commonalities between many of the revolutionary movements of the past few centuries. "Always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow takes another shape and grows again." :)

It started with Rousseau, which Chesterton well knew.  He couched it in the language of that crowd as they existed at the time. 

The Man Who Was Thursday is a masterpiece that will never be recognized as such because it is short, seems simple at first glance, and because of who and how it pokes.

Armchair Gamer

#122
April 06, 2022, 10:13:36 PM
Quote from: Steven Mitchell on April 06, 2022, 09:52:02 PM

The Man Who Was Thursday is a masterpiece that will never be recognized as such because it is short, seems simple at first glance, and because of who and how it pokes.

It did, however, make it into the Recommended Reading list of an RPG—Castle Falkenstein—which is how I discovered it. There are good reading lists in the hobby beyond Appendix N. :)

Zalman

#123
April 07, 2022, 11:23:52 AM
Quote from: SHARK on April 06, 2022, 03:57:11 PM
I'm pretty confident Professor Dungeon Master is a Christian.

Interesting leap. I'll give you 3-to-1 odds he's Jewish.
Old School? Back in my day we just called it "School."

rgalex

#124
April 08, 2022, 07:29:40 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 06, 2022, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: Trond on April 06, 2022, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 28, 2022, 11:28:19 AMMork Borg has been covered before, and it ranges from excessively woke to excessively nihilistic.

Mork Borg being dark, satanic, and nihilistic, it does sound like it should be a contradiction somewhere, but somehow I think you're completely right that it's woke. I'd still like to hear how though?
From our infamous Redlist:

" Uses OGL to shoot down authors they disagree with. Supports BLM and bailing out rioters. "

But does the game itself contain any 'wokeness'?  If it's just the author/company and the game isn't dripping in that stuff that's a difference worth mentioning.

Based on Shark's review it doesn't sound like the game is really an issue.  If that's the case I may try to find a way to get a copy that doesn't give them money (2nd hand or something) rather than avoid it outright.

Zalman

#125
April 08, 2022, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: rgalex on April 08, 2022, 07:29:40 AM
If that's the case I may try to find a way to get a copy that doesn't give them money (2nd hand or something) rather than avoid it outright.

And do what with it? If you play it, write content for it, or even talk about it you are generating publicity, sales, and profit for its creators.
Old School? Back in my day we just called it "School."

rgalex

#126
April 08, 2022, 09:58:16 AM
Quote from: Zalman on April 08, 2022, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: rgalex on April 08, 2022, 07:29:40 AM
If that's the case I may try to find a way to get a copy that doesn't give them money (2nd hand or something) rather than avoid it outright.

And do what with it? If you play it, write content for it, or even talk about it you are generating publicity, sales, and profit for its creators.

Play it.  I only play with a group of friends, same group for over 15 years now.  We play in a private house, not out in public.  Us playing isn't going to generate jack or shit for anyone.

I guess we could talk about it, which is what's going on here.  That may generate $$$ but it's not a sure thing.  Letting people know about the shit the people behind the game do lets them make a choice about if and how they would want to get the game.  I mean, Sharks take on it convinced me to look into it more but it's not going to get them any money from me.

Ghostmaker

#127
April 08, 2022, 10:21:28 AM
Quote from: Zalman on April 08, 2022, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: rgalex on April 08, 2022, 07:29:40 AM
If that's the case I may try to find a way to get a copy that doesn't give them money (2nd hand or something) rather than avoid it outright.

And do what with it? If you play it, write content for it, or even talk about it you are generating publicity, sales, and profit for its creators.
Citation needed.

migo

#128
April 08, 2022, 01:06:53 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 08, 2022, 10:21:28 AM
Quote from: Zalman on April 08, 2022, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: rgalex on April 08, 2022, 07:29:40 AM
If that's the case I may try to find a way to get a copy that doesn't give them money (2nd hand or something) rather than avoid it outright.

And do what with it? If you play it, write content for it, or even talk about it you are generating publicity, sales, and profit for its creators.
Citation needed.

There's no such thing as bad press. You can see that with woke RPG designers wanting to get onto the redlist.
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