Here is a Kickstarter that looks like it wont fund.  A Western RPG that has the players be Outlaws. OUTLAWS, not the good guys, not the sheriff, the bad guys.   Remember that .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpFTkXuC0Go&t=891s


7:15 starts to babble about PC a bit
8:20 "act like its modern times" (defeats the purpose of a RPG, no?)
8:35 "don't be a horrible person"  (huh, outlaws? bank robbers? )
9:05 " you can be a character from any country"
9:36 "marginalized people...."
10:42  "be a wild west samurai!"
13:15 "don't be an ex-confederate soldier"  
15:00 I stopped watching.....

Now here is where I dropped my pledge.
14:05  "I don't want you to play my game"    
yeah, think like me, or I don't want you to buy & play my game........

Lets face the facts.  The Wild west was a violent time, wars against the Indians, Chinese working the railroads, etc.  Most are going to play based on Western movies anyway. There will be killing & robbing.(but Parker hopes its only white people)  PC nonsense.


Just make a good game. let players decide what kind of game they will play. keep your PC nonsense out of it.

If I am playing an OUTLAW in the Old West, why would I "act like its modern times" and what would my OUTLAW be other than "a horrible person"?

And do the Irish and Italians in 1800s count as "marginalized people"?

Also, "a character from any country?" Does he explain why immigrants suddenly would become criminals?

Or is the answer to all these questions "the author is fucking SJW moron"?

Quote from: Blood Axe;1087883There will be killing & robbing.(but Parker hopes its only white people)

Does he actually say that?

Quote from: Spinachcat;1087885If I am playing an OUTLAW in the Old West, why would I "act like its modern times" and what would my OUTLAW be other than "a horrible person"?

And do the Irish and Italians in 1800s count as "marginalized people"?

Also, "a character from any country?" Does he explain why immigrants suddenly would become criminals?

Or is the answer to all these questions "the author is fucking SJW moron"?




Does he actually say that?

Lol.  No he doesnt actually say only white people....Im just making fun of his SJW self- loathing nonsense.

A Wild West game where you are an outlaw but should act like its modern times, not be a horrible person,  don't kill Injuns, etc.

You can watch the video on YouTube. If you can get past 15 minutes he might spout more garbage. I just couldn't.....

Quote from: Blood Axe;1087883Just make a good game. let players decide what kind of game they will play. keep your PC nonsense out of it.

People that think/speak in "marginalized" terms... I'm not interested in giving them money.

Quote from: Blood Axe;1087920Lol.  No he doesnt actually say only white people....Im just making fun of his SJW self- loathing nonsense.

Please don't put words in his mouth. Look at it either one of these ways that makes sense:

1. That's what they do.
2. That's how we talk at each other instead of with each other.

Let the ludicrousness of it speak for itself.

Quote from: Tanin Wulf;1088033Please don't put words in his mouth. Look at it either one of these ways that makes sense:

1. That's what they do.
2. That's how we talk at each other instead of with each other.

Let the ludicrousness of it speak for itself.

I get you. It just hurts a normal persons brain.  Watch the video- then come back to me.  

Here is a comment from a backer when I just asked for them to forget about the PC nonsense, make a good game and let players decide how they want to play.

So tolerant & inclusive.
" you're poison take your hate elsewhere. @BlackHatGames you're doing a fine job. Stick to your guns (pun intended) and it will all work out."

When a game designer basically says "if you like this, or think this way I don't want you playing my game" , then they are in some trouble.
Just some of the idiocy.
14:02 - 14:10   " if you are the type of player that wants to play an ex-confederate soldier I don't want you playing my game frankly" . (or close with a bit of mumbling)
(but you can be a Samurai)

Now I am going to buy this game just so I can run a game where the PC's are ex-Confederate soldiers who became lawmen and are now fighting the outlaws just to spite these assholes.

I will film the campaign and be sure to send the videos to them, of course.

Quote from: Blood Axe;1087883Here is a Kickstarter that looks like it wont fund...

Kind of surprising, in a good way. I always figured these guys virtue signal in order to get money from people that think by backing it they're being good allies, making the world a better place, somehow. Something they can brag about and pat themselves on the back simply for throwing money at.

Quote from: Blood Axe;1088079I get you. It just hurts a normal persons brain.  Watch the video- then come back to me.  

Here is a comment from a backer when I just asked for them to forget about the PC nonsense, make a good game and let players decide how they want to play.

So tolerant & inclusive.
" you're poison take your hate elsewhere. @BlackHatGames you're doing a fine job. Stick to your guns (pun intended) and it will all work out."

When a game designer basically says "if you like this, or think this way I don't want you playing my game" , then they are in some trouble.
Just some of the idiocy.
14:02 - 14:10   " if you are the type of player that wants to play an ex-confederate soldier I don't want you playing my game frankly" . (or close with a bit of mumbling)
(but you can be a Samurai)

This makes me want to pirate it and run a game in youtube where all the PCs are confederates.
Or maybe where Custer doesn't get his idiot ass killed.
Or maybe one of the very early westerns, where all indians were bad.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1088092This makes me want to pirate it and run a game in youtube where all the PCs are confederates.
Or maybe where Custer doesn't get his idiot ass killed.
Or maybe one of the very early westerns, where all indians were bad.

I would run a game like this in a heartbeat.

The PC's are all lawmen and either ex-Confederates or Samurai (hey, you gotta admit that Samurai are kind of cool) and the Indians are bad guys, with their leader being the evil Chief Two-Spirit, a bloodthirsty gender-queer autogynephile.

MANIFEST DESTINY, BITCHES!!! THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!

YEE-HAW! RIDE 'EM COWBOY!

[video=youtube;m36uOUSJFjE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m36uOUSJFjE[/youtube]

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1088092This makes me want to pirate it and run a game in youtube where all the PCs are confederates.
Or maybe where Custer doesn't get his idiot ass killed.
Or maybe one of the very early westerns, where all indians were bad.

Greetings!

Doesn't it though? I'm normally not much for being a contrarian dick, but I'll be damned--this kind of self-righteous, smugness brings out the grim dick in me where yeah, I want to purposely run a campaign using lots of Confederate veterans, and harsh, Texas Rangers that ruthlessly hunt down all outlaws and hang 'em high! This fucking moron is so busy sucking SJW dick that in his hurry to cover himself in virue signaling Jizz, he missed the part of the Historical Old West, where there were lots of savage Indians, Mexican Bandits, vicious Outlaws. More than a few evil, greedy fucks were not necessarily "normal" Americans, but various European immigrants fresh off the boat, eager to make their fortunes any way they could, by exploiting and murdering and robbing anyone, of any race. There's also room for plenty of Black American bandits and criminals as well. Add in a few ruthless Spaniard Ranchers, and a diverse assortment of all kinds of greedy, selfish, villains. Plenty of rape, greed and murder to go around for everyone. Not just white folks.

Geesus, I hate these cock-fucking pussies.

Fucking morons. I bet the jackass doesn't know that on the eve of the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln offered the command of the Army of the Potomac to General Robert E. Lee. Yeah, the General that went on to lead the Confederate Army against the Union for five fucking years. General Robert E. Lee--already a famous American hero, and one of the greatest military geniuses of the entire 19th century, declared that he could not in good conscioence raise arms against his beloved land of Virginia, and his native Virginians. Thus, General Robert E. Lee respectfully declined President Lincoln's offer, and went on to command the Confederate Army.

These people are so fucking stupid.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK;1088098Greetings!

Doesn't it though? I'm normally not much for being a contrarian dick, but I'll be damned--this kind of self-righteous, smugness brings out the grim dick in me where yeah, I want to purposely run a campaign using lots of Confederate veterans, and harsh, Texas Rangers that ruthlessly hunt down all outlaws and hang 'em high! This fucking moron is so busy sucking SJW dick that in his hurry to cover himself in virue signaling Jizz, he missed the part of the Historical Old West, where there were lots of savage Indians, Mexican Bandits, vicious Outlaws. More than a few evil, greedy fucks were not necessarily "normal" Americans, but various European immigrants fresh off the boat, eager to make their fortunes any way they could, by exploiting and murdering and robbing anyone, of any race. There's also room for plenty of Black American bandits and criminals as well. Add in a few ruthless Spaniard Ranchers, and a diverse assortment of all kinds of greedy, selfish, villains. Plenty of rape, greed and murder to go around for everyone. Not just white folks.

Geesus, I hate these cock-fucking pussies.

Fucking morons. I bet the jackass doesn't know that on the eve of the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln offered the command of the Army of the Potomac to General Robert E. Lee. Yeah, the General that went on to lead the Confederate Army against the Union for five fucking years. General Robert E. Lee--already a famous American hero, and one of the greatest military geniuses of the entire 19th century, declared that he could not in good conscioence raise arms against his beloved land of Virginia, and his native Virginians. Thus, General Robert E. Lee respectfully declined President Lincoln's offer, and went on to command the Confederate Army.

These people are so fucking stupid.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Greetings, I'm usually very much of a contrarian dick, or just a dick, depending on the situation

Oh yes, lots of Mexican bandits, I can give you plenty of correct colorful language so they can use (what with me being mexican and all). Maybe have Pancho Villa (yes, I know it's not historically accurate) raiding border towns.

Or just recreate Blazing Saddles just to see/hear their Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeing.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1088110Oh yes, lots of Mexican bandits, I can give you plenty of correct colorful language so they can use (what with me being mexican and all)

This.  Yelling "vete ala chingada!" while emptying my Colt into the town marshal sounds like good role play.

You forgot the comma between mud and blood, which is ironically appropriate.

Quote from: Blood Axe;1087883Here is a Kickstarter that looks like it wont fund.

So the project is failing on its own merits. What's the problem?

Quote from: Blood Axe;1087883Now here is where I dropped my pledge.
14:05  "I don't want you to play my game"    
yeah, think like me, or I don't want you to buy & play my game...

So what? It's not like they can enforce this. And even if they could, would you want to be playing with people like this?

I would totally play a Tarantino Western RPG, ala Natural Born Killers in the Wild West.

Everybody is bad. Everybody's got a gun. Nobody can be trusted. But for the moment, y'all gotta play nice with each other or die.

And you could have character classes like The Mexican, The Chinaman, The Ex-Confederate and The Prostitute!

Oh wait. I ran that 30 years ago with Boot Hill. Damn you Sam Peckinpah!