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Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on July 31, 2008, 12:41:06 PM
(http://www.goodman-games.com/images/GMG4380CoverLarge.jpg)

I got word that it will be shipping from the Printer soon and may be in the stores by the 2nd or 3rd week of August.

(http://www.ibiblio.org/mscorbit/images/Southland_preview.jpg)

Some excerpts

Introduction
Southland is meant to pay homage to the early days
of role-playing. Back then, high-level play was about
building and defending your own barony. Since the
original game was about dungeon crawling, players and
DMs that wanted outdoor adventures were forced to
turn to other games to meet their needs. One solution
was the game Outdoor Survival by Avalon Hill, which
included a board that could be used as a wilderness map
that players could explore. Dave Arneson, one of the
authors of the original edition, originated the use of
this board and placed it south of his main campaign. As
his campaign progressed, several of the players began to
clear the map of monsters and build their own baronies.
It is in the spirit of those early days that this area is
named Southland. A land of few realms and many wideopen
spaces, Southland is an area where your players
can establish their own realms.

Background
Here on the wild frontier, adventurers struggle to
push back the wilderness. Mile by mile they push back
the monsters and move the boundaries of civilization
forward. Opposing them are the Blood Fist orcs, the
dark elves of the Underrealm, and renegades from the
Grand Kingdom, yet there are allies to be found within
the Southland.
Where the Sarduin and the Darkwine rivers join, the
Grand Kingdom has founded its first major settlement,
Castle Westguard. The settlement is growing due in
large part to the thriving trade between the Grand
Kingdom and the Dwarves of Bolzak. The dwarves
send shipments of weapons, iron, and gold through
their port at Nilik, which is then shipped by barge to
Castle Westguard, and finally moved by caravan over
the Golden Pass to the Grand Kingdom. The dwarves
also trade with the halflings of Dunshire, who barter
grain and fruit for protection and iron ore.
South of Westguard lies the elven realm of Silverdim,
the last outpost of the elves in Southland. Over 200 years
ago the Bloody Fist orcs, led by the dragon Arcador,
invaded the elven homeland of Silverwood. The orcs
laid waste to Silverwood, slaughtered many elves, and
claimed the forest as their own. After the orc invasion,
the remnants of the elves regrouped and traveled east,
eventually establishing a haven in Silverdim. The
Silverwood remains dominated by the orcs to this day,
and has been renamed the Blood Forest.
The dark elves of House Ardize have established an
outpost at Nightportal Keep, and have decided to
expand their power to the surface world. They have
recently made contact with the evil Baron Beldon, who
dwells in a castle to the north, beneath The Sunset
Rim. Beldon is an infamous traitor from a kingdom to
the north, and rumor has it that the baron betrayed his
king and fled to Southland to escape an almost certain
execution. Currently, he deals in slaves and contraband,
and has carved out a small realm for himself on the back
of these nefarious activities. The Baron has welcomed
the advances of the dark elves, and a tentative alliance
has grown between the two evil powers.
Scattered throughout the Southland are the ruins of
the Bright Empire. A thousand years ago, the Empire
was a shining force for good until their own hubris
brought them down. Today, the relics and artifacts of
the Bright Empire are eagerly sought for their potent
power, despite the rumors that the gods have cursed
many of them.

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A section that is standard to all the maps where I talk about the premises for the maps and what needed to be done to place the map in your campaign.
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Adaptation Notes
Southland can be any frontier region of a kingdom in
your campaign. Any ancient empire in your campaign's
history can work in place of the Bright Empire. The
Underrealm is a common feature in many fantasy
campaigns, and House Ardize can be replaced with a
suitable dark elf enemy of your choice. If no dark elves
exist, any non-human, evil race can be substituted.
The Bloody Fist Orcs are numerous enough that even
a determined party of high-level adventures won't able
to destroy them in a single fight. Their lair may be
destroyed several times, but they will keep coming back
until the players can scour the Blood Forest clean of
their presence.
The trade between Bolzak, Westguard, and the Grand
Kingdom has established a rudimentary economy that
players may expand when they establish their own
baronies. Threats to this economy can serve as the basis
for many adventures as the brigands of Castle Beldon
raid the caravans and river routes.

The Mist Falls
A rainbow cloud of mist marks these spectacular
hundred-foot-high falls. On a clear day the mist cloud
can be seen two hexes away. Legend has it there is an
entrance to the fey realm hidden behind the falls. Baron
Beldon has sent two expeditions to find this entrance,
but none have returned.

Ryne Creek
Ryne Creek forms the eastern boundary of Baron
Beldon's lands. The baron's cavalry patrol the creek
down to Wicking Lake.

The Sunset Rim
The Sunset Rim is an escarpment averaging 60 feet
high. It runs for nearly 50 miles, forming the base of the
Redstone Mountains. The rim's base holds numerous
caves inhabited by tribes of troglodytes, except near
Baron Beldon's realm, where the baron's slavers use the
caves as holding pens for their humanoid stock

Wicking Lake
This is the largest lake in Southland. Eight miles long
and five miles wide, it reaches depths of 100 feet. The
local fishermen claim to have seen a crystalline city of
unearthly beauty within the depths of the lake. The
southeast shore is infested with harpies.

Wolfwood
These woods are inhabited by giant aurochs along with
packs of worgs that prey on them. The woods are also
known to have a huge variety of herbs, including many
rare varieties eagerly sought by alchemists.

1114 Westfield (Hamlet)
A dozen long, wooden barracks and a stone manor house
make up this hamlet. Here Lord Farris (Ftr6) runs a
latifundium with nearly 100 slaves (nearly all human),
5 guards (Ftr3), and 10 overseers (Ftr1) who supervise
slaves in the fields. The slave labor in Westfield supplies
nearly all of the food for Castle Beldon (Hex 1214).
Westfield is also home to Captain Travis (Rgr5) and his
four slave hunters (Rgr3), employed by Baron Beldon
to hunt escapees. They often patrol the land, out to ten
miles (two hexes) around the various settlements.

1214 Castle Beldon (Castle)
Baron Victor Beldon was once one of the Grand
Kingdom's most powerful nobles. Twenty years ago the
king died and the baron unveiled a plot to force the
succession council to name him king. He failed; and
when the new king was crowned, Beldon was named
a traitor. With his life in grave peril, Baron Beldon
gathered one hundred of his most trusted men and
fled over the Westwall into the wild. The baron found
several small hamlets and conquered them, settling
there with his men. When his scouts found a superb
location for a castle on the Sunset Rim, the baron forced
the people of the conquered hamlets to relocate. After
Castle Beldon was built, the survivors were separated
into two hamlets and forced to work as slaves, growing
food for the baron and his men.
With increasing trade between Bolzak and Westguard,
Baron Beldon began to recruit desperate men eager
to raid. The arrival of the dark elves provided much
needed allies. Victor Beldon's new opportunities have
allowed him to plot his return to power in the Grand
Kingdom.
Castle Beldon is built on a low mesa next to the Sunset
Rim. The only pathway snakes upward on the remains
of a collapsed ridge that once connected the mesa to the
rim on the southeast side. The other faces of the mesa
are sheer cliffs ranging from 50 to 100 feet high. There
is a spring present at the top of the mesa. The pressure
of an underground river forcing its way up the cracks
forms the spring.
Baron Victor Beldon (Clr11) is a priest of the blood god,
Azeel. His personal guard is commanded by a captain
(Ftr7), and consists of 5 guards (Ftr2). There are nearly
120 bandits and light footmen living at the castle, along
with 100 slaves and 20 camp followers. Along with the
bandits, the baron supports a coven of 4 dark wizards
(Wiz8, Wiz6, 2 Wiz2) to provide magical aid. He has
an acolyte, Saldor Balsign (Clr6), to lead his men in the
blood rites of Azeel.

(http://www.ibiblio.org/mscorbit/images/Map-Beldon.jpg)

1409 The Crocodile Hunter
A giant crocodile (10 HD) lives along the northwest
shore of Wicking Lake. There is a 20% chance per day
the party is ambushed if they stay within 200 yards of the
shoreline. The crocodile's typical attack is to rush out
of the water and grapple its target with a bite, and then
drag the victim back into the water until he drowns.

1411 Ruined Glory
This site was once a tower used by the famed hippogriffs
riders of the Bright Empire. The tower has long since
fallen into ruin, and only the foundation remains. A
hundred years ago, a crack in the foundation formed,
allowing access to the bottom basements of the tower.
The tower is currently occupied by 24 wererats (1 HD),
20 giant rats (1 HD), and dozens of regular rats (1/4
HD). In a forgotten chamber are the remains of the
harnesses and gear once used by the hippogriff riders.
A dozen full sets can be salvaged and repaired.

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Author Note: There is another locale, not on the preview map, that relates to the above.
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1413 Mistfield (Hamlet)
This hamlet consists of several barracks and a stone
manor house. The slaves of Mistfield grow delicacies
for the baron and his men. Because of the Mist Falls,
the area is considerably wetter than the rest of the
baron's lands, allowing various fruit orchards and vines
to be grown. The hamlet consists of 80 slaves that tend
the orchards, 3 guards (Ftr3), and 8 overseers (Ftr1) to
supervise the slaves.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: S'mon on July 31, 2008, 12:49:32 PM
Sounds great - a month ago I wouldn't have had a use for PoL, but now I'm looking to purchase this for use with my new 3.5e/Red Box mash-up campaign. :)
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: RockViper on July 31, 2008, 12:58:32 PM
This is defiantly relative to my interests.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on July 31, 2008, 01:06:05 PM
There are three other lands included as well.

Wildland: The fall of the Bright Empire left warring factions in its wake. As savage barbarians and wicked humanoids roam the land, the last bastions of civilization cower behind their crumbling city walls. A dark age has come, and none may live to tell the tale.

Borderland: Two factions clash over war-torn fields, battling for dominance in a civil war that that has torn a once-mighty empire in two. When brother strives against brother, and blood runs in the streets, who will emerge to unify the broken land -- and at what cost, peace?

The Swamps of Acheron: In the Outer Planes, amid fetid swamplands and ice-choked mountains, the fell god Sarrath holds court. In a realm where gods stalk the earth, will you dare to take a stand, or will you succumb to evil's siren song and take up the Serpent Banner?
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: RPGPundit on July 31, 2008, 01:40:13 PM
Wow, got to say that looks quite cool!

RPGPundit
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: Akrasia on July 31, 2008, 02:01:19 PM
This looks brilliant!  I can hardly wait to get a copy.

Some questions:

(1) I take it that the Southland and the Wildand are part of the same setting.  What about the Borderland?  (Acheron is obviously on a separate plane.)

(2) Will there be players' maps (something like the players' maps in the old JG Wilderlands products)?  

(3) Will it include general information on deities, cosmology, history, etc.?

Thanks!
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: RockViper on July 31, 2008, 02:02:20 PM
Who is this being published through? Goodman games?
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: S'mon on July 31, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: estar;230352Wildland: The fall of the Bright Empire left warring factions in its wake. As savage barbarians and wicked humanoids roam the land, the last bastions of civilization cower behind their crumbling city walls. A dark age has come, and none may live to tell the tale.

Yeah, this is one I'm particularly interested in as I'm hoping it should slot right in to my new homebrew, due east of the starting PoL (Willow Vale), as the ruins of the Sharan Empire.

Here are the geography notes from my new PoL-based homebrew - let me know if you see any cool ways your 4 PoLs would fit in.  I might adapt the Acheron one for the home plane of Baphomet, the ultimate BBEG in this campaign.

Geography

Arda
Arda, the Wooded Realm, is a lush and fertile temperate land which stretches from the Southern Uplands and Willow Vale north for hundreds of miles, broken here and there by hills and moors. Much of Arda is a wilderness roamed by monsters and giants, but here and there the light of civilisation still flickers. West of Arda lies the World Ocean, while to the east are the Giant Lands, the home of ogres and trolls who lair amongst the ruins of the Sharan Empire. Beyond Arda to the north are the Frozen Lands of mountains, snow and shining plains of ice said to stretch to the End of the World.

Willow Vale map at 3 miles/hex:
http://www.geocities.com/s.t.newman/Willow_Vale.JPG

The Trosk Mountains
A great mountain range separates Arda to the north from Kalara to the south. Home of the fierce and hostile Trosk barbarians, it?s said that wild dragons lair among the high peaks.

Kalara
Once a pleasant and fertile realm similar to Arda, Kalara was conquered by the minions of Baphomet centuries ago. Now the corrupted land of Kalara is a vast expanse of burning desert waste, dotted with oases and the sand-swept ruins of earlier days. The people of Kalara fear the sun and cover themselves with heavy robes, so that only their eyes are visible. It is said that the people of Kalara revere Baphomet as the Horned Moon, Enemy of the Sun, and sacrifice droves of virgins to this fell power in order to receive his protection. The priests of the Horned Moon have diabolical powers, it?s said that some have even pierced the Veil that separates Life and Death.

The Sharan Empire
A thousand years ago the Great City of Shar ruled these lands in a golden age. Sharan Priests brought the Holy Church of the Unconquered Sun (Sol Invinctis) to these lands from the east, gradually displacing the Old Faith. But over time the Sharans grew decadent and weak. Some even turned to the worship of Chaos. Eventually monstrous invasions brought down the empire and sacked Shar herself. Today Shar is a ruined city inhabited by terrible beasts, where the only free Men are the foul Priests of Baphomet. However, rumours persist that far, far to the east the city of New Shar still endures, preserving the knowledge and learning of the Ancients.

The Holy Kingdom of Aeth
Far, far to the south, beyond the burning wastes of Kalara, it is said that there lies the good and noble realm of Aeth, where everyone?s complexion is black from the rays of the Holy Sun. Ruled by a long line of Lawful priest-kings, and protected by mighty Paladins of the Unconquered Sun, for centuries the Kingdom of Aeth has defied the unholy forces of Baphomet. A few black knights of Aeth have even reached southern Arda, bringing friendly greetings from the Priest-Kings and welcome aid against the powers of Chaos.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on July 31, 2008, 02:21:23 PM
Quote from: Akrasia;230389This looks brilliant!  I can hardly wait to get a copy.

(1) I take it that the Southland and the Wildand are part of the same setting.  What about the Borderland?  (Acheron is obviously on a separate plane.)

The lands are separate. They share common concepts (like the god Sarrath) to save space and make all four lands useful to a referee even he only runs one.

The three lands don't join up into a mega map. I am however preserving the option of "pulling out an Aerth" like what occurred with the DCC line. With the the three lands (the fourth being an outer plane) not only they would be in different regions but also different times. The time order would be Borderland, Wildland, and Southland being the latest. Acheron being an outer plane is essentially timeless.

The main idea is to make them self contained as possible to drop into an existing campaign. Or to serve as the core kernel of a new campaign.

Quote from: Akrasia;230389(2) Will there be players' maps (something like the players' maps in the old JG Wilderlands products)?  

Joesph Goodman and I talked about that. Likely yes as a downloadable PDF.

Quote from: Akrasia;230389(3) Will it include general information on deities, cosmology, history, etc.?

Thanks!

As far as the needs of the individual maps go, the answer is yes. For example Borderlands is about a civil war that is also a religious conflict. So you get a lot of details on Sarrath, Delaquain, and other religions involved. The same with the history.

Again while I have common concepts I don't try to tie them together explicitly. However I don't preclude it either.

The format is an experiment as only a handful of products been done like this. The closest current example is the Vale of Nenthir (sp?) in the back of the 4th edition DMG. I pack a lot more in than Nenthir so you get more value with my product.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on July 31, 2008, 02:23:01 PM
Quote from: RockViper;230394Who is this being published through? Goodman games?

Yes. Joesph Goodman as been really good to work with.

He and I believe that this product can be the basis of a new niche in the market.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on July 31, 2008, 02:28:12 PM
Quote from: S'mon;230399let me know if you see any cool ways your 4 PoLs would fit in.  I

Nice B/E/C/M/I style map.

You could flip Wildland 180 degrees and stick on the top of your map. The river running through the middle would connect to the great river.

Rotated 90 degrees the Southland Map could work at the bottom with the road leading out through the Golden Pass into the area you see in the preview.

Borderland could be attached to lower right. The mountain range connecting to the Altus Mountains on Borderland. The lower left could work with the map rotated 180.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: S'mon on July 31, 2008, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: estar;230405The lands are separate. They share common concepts (like the god Sarrath) to save space and make all four lands useful to a referee even he only runs one.

The three lands don't join up into a mega map. I am however preserving the option of "pulling out an Aerth" like what occurred with the DCC line. With the the three lands (the fourth being an outer plane) not only they would be in different regions but also different times. The time order would be Borderland, Wildland, and Southland being the latest. Acheron being an outer plane is essentially timeless.

As far as the needs of the individual maps go, the answer is yes. For example Borderlands is about a civil war that is also a religious conflict. So you get a lot of details on Sarrath, Delaquain, and other religions involved. The same with the history.

Hmm, very interesting about the timeline.  Sounds like Borderlands might be useable IMC for events leading to the Fall of the Sharan Empire, maybe in a time-travel scenario - going back in time to preserve a holy artifact from the Fall, say.

Southland might be somewhere in Arda; Wildland for Sharn/Giant Lands, and Acheron for Baphomet's realm IMC.  I'm thinking of using the old Expert D&D scenario X5 Temple of Death as the HQ of the Baphomites at the climax of the campaign; that could contain a portal to Acheron where the high level PCs could seek out Baphomet for the final battle.  This Acheron sounds a bit like the Sword Ruler ruled planes in Moorcock's Corum series - weird and corrupted, but not totally under the BBEG's sway the way eg the Demonweb is in Q1.  I like the idea that the PCs might have to seek out allies against the BBEG, even in 'Hell'.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: S'mon on July 31, 2008, 02:44:38 PM
Quote from: estar;230411Nice B/E/C/M/I style map.

You could flip Wildland 180 degrees and stick on the top of your map. The river running through the middle would connect to the great river.

Rotated 90 degrees the Southland Map could work at the bottom with the road leading out through the Golden Pass into the area you see in the preview.

Borderland could be attached to lower right. The mountain range connecting to the Altus Mountains on Borderland. The lower left could work with the map rotated 180.

Thanks, I'm going to bookmark this thread.  :)
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: Zachary The First on July 31, 2008, 10:17:26 PM
Rob, you not only impress, my man, you inspire.  I can't wait to see this.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: Aos on July 31, 2008, 10:38:08 PM
Ditto, I rarely use anyone else's setting, but I may pick this up just to read.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: GrimJesta on August 01, 2008, 10:00:45 AM
Dude, I am ALL about this supplement.

-=Grim=-
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: Akrasia on August 01, 2008, 12:58:21 PM
Thanks for answering my questions, Estar.

Quote from: estar;230405... With the the three lands (the fourth being an outer plane) not only they would be in different regions but also different times. The time order would be Borderland, Wildland, and Southland being the latest. Acheron being an outer plane is essentially timeless...

Interesting, although I would've preferred them to all take place at the same time, and be part of the same overall setting (like the Wilderlands), with each nonetheless 'freestanding'.  

Not a big deal, of course...

Quote from: estar;230405...
Joesph Goodman and I talked about that. Likely yes as a downloadable PDF.
...

That would be great!

Quote from: estar;230405...
The format is an experiment as only a handful of products been done like this...

I love products like this!  Even if I don't run them as written, they're fun to read and great to mine for ideas.
:D
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: Jackalope on August 01, 2008, 01:37:22 PM
Awesome Rob, even more excited about this than when you first announced it.

I LOVE coded graph maps!  Hoorah!

Definitely will be picking this one up.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on August 01, 2008, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: Akrasia;230811Interesting, although I would've preferred them to all take place at the same time, and be part of the same overall setting (like the Wilderlands), with each nonetheless 'freestanding'.  


The main focus of Point of Lights will be on good writing and a consistent level of quality. So that when you see a Points of Light module you know what you are buying like with the Dungeon Crawl Classics.  

It may turn out like the old DC Comics series Showcase where different superheroes are featured each issue. The most popular got to go onto their own series. The same with the settings of Points of Light.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showcase_(comics)

However right now it is early to say exactly how it going to evolve. All I can say is that for the settings I write I am preserving the option of an future Aerth style mashup. Some of the PoL settings will be part of the main campaign, while others will be background, and other will be options for the GM to implement for their "future" history.

One of the ideas that is part of the proposal was taking the same land and present in it four different time periods decades apart. This would emulate the style of the Great Pendragon Campaign but in a less expensive and intimidating format.

So there going to be a lot of things we are going to be doing with Points of Light than detailing a setting to the Nth degree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendragon_(role-playing_game)

QuoteThe most notable supplement for this edition is The Great Pendragon Campaign, a massive (432-page) hardcover scenario book which details events, adventures and characters from Uther Pendragon's reign in 485 through to the end of the Arthurian era. The earlier version of this supplement, "The Pendragon Campaign", won the 1985 Origins Award for Best Roleplaying Supplement.[5], and "The Great Pendragon Campaign" won the 2007 Diana Jones Award.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: howandwhy99 on August 01, 2008, 03:01:11 PM
Really, any imaginative DM could tie those together with a little thinking.  This looks like something I will definitely pick up.  

Someone should give Joseph Goodman copies of the old Judges Guild maps that were so awesome.  He's doing the best job in the industry right now and I'd love to see him go head to head with the best ever.  (I6 too, but that took a high level artist)
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: Akrasia on August 01, 2008, 03:19:02 PM
Quote from: estar;230861...One of the ideas that is part of the proposal was taking the same land and present in it four different time periods decades apart....

That would be quite cool!  :)
Title: Writers: Robert Conley and Dwayne Gillingham
Post by: PepperRoll on August 03, 2008, 09:30:03 PM
Where is the other guy? Why is he not posting? Or was he just a minor writer?
It looks like something I can use but I like to know the people's stuff I intend to use.

PepperRoll
Big time Gamer for the Last 10 years.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: Melan on August 04, 2008, 02:05:05 AM
I like that smallish map of the castle -- says a lot without so many words... :) But then I like the product in its entirety.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on August 05, 2008, 10:45:53 AM
Quote from: PepperRoll;231520Where is the other guy? Why is he not posting? Or was he just a minor writer?
It looks like something I can use but I like to know the people's stuff I intend to use.

PepperRoll
Big time Gamer for the Last 10 years.

There are three of us who are friends and been playing together since 1983. Myself, Tim Shorts, and Dwayne Gillingham. While all three of us have GMed at some point, most of our roleplaying has been done in my Majestic Wilderlands.

I run my campaign as a sandbox with the players free to set their own goals and wander about. So a lot of the elements I draw on for my RPG writing comes from the concepts that arise from these games.

Tim, my editor, is great at coming up with interesting NPCs and motivations as well as being a writer of poetry and short fiction. Dwayne is great at coming up with far out concepts and using the rules to create interesting situations. Dwayne is also has the best memory out of all of us as well a being a Gunnery Sergeant in the US Marine Corp.  

I am good at worldbuilding; history, culture, religions, etc. I also ran and managed Live-Action Roleplaying events for 10 years (NERO i.e. D&D in the woods). After the birth of my last boy I didn't have the time anymore so I turned to honing my writing skills. I used the opportunity of working with Necromancer Games and Judges Guild to get more work in the industry. Which eventually led to this project.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: jswa on August 09, 2008, 01:33:00 PM
I am super impressed. Consider it bought.

It's August! Any updates?
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: GrayPumpkin on August 09, 2008, 05:39:46 PM
Just noticed this earlier today, must say it looks very impressive, I put in order in at my FLGS, they told me it releases on Monday. Looking forward to checking it out.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on August 10, 2008, 10:07:46 AM
Quote from: GrayPumpkin;234013Just noticed this earlier today, must say it looks very impressive, I put in order in at my FLGS, they told me it releases on Monday. Looking forward to checking it out.

Hooray!
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: GrayPumpkin on August 11, 2008, 06:26:34 PM
Grrr... Went to my FLGS today and they didn't get it in, apparently they were out at the local warehouse, which probably means the haven't gotten it in yet, either that or they've all been shipped elsewhere.
The other game store in town didn't even know about it. I at least corrected that much. Oh well guess it'll might be a little while yet before I can get my hands on this, but looking forward to it.

Update: My perseverance pays off, I managed to find a place in town that got 1 copy in. Hope this dosen't mean there was some sort of shortage problem, cause, I'm just a few pages in, but so far it's a very inspiring read, and thing deserves to get some love.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: S'mon on August 12, 2008, 06:20:03 AM
Checking Amazon it's saying September (UK) or October (US) release date.  :(
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on August 12, 2008, 08:31:24 AM
Quote from: S'mon;234782Checking Amazon it's saying September (UK) or October (US) release date.  :(

I think it because Goodman gives FLGS  first dibs. However from my experience with Badabaskor and watching the DCCs going through it can be all over the place.

Rob Conley
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on August 12, 2008, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: GrayPumpkin;234633Grrr... Went to my FLGS today and they didn't get it in, apparently they were out at the local warehouse, which probably means the haven't gotten it in yet, either that or they've all been shipped elsewhere.

Since I stared writing professionally for the RPG Industry, I have learned the the entire process it not as straight forward I thought it was. Then that shouldn't surprise me considering all that the company of my day job has to do get our metal cutting machine out the door.

Quote from: GrayPumpkin;234633Update: My perseverance pays off, I managed to find a place in town that got 1 copy in. Hope this dosen't mean there was some sort of shortage problem, cause, I'm just a few pages in, but so far it's a very inspiring read, and thing deserves to get some love.

Hooray! First one out the door. Hope you find the rest of it enjoyable.

Rob Conley
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: S'mon on August 12, 2008, 03:20:15 PM
Quote from: estar;234803I think it because Goodman gives FLGS  first dibs. However from my experience with Badabaskor and watching the DCCs going through it can be all over the place.

Rob Conley

Interesting - I googled and I see various US FLGSs have it, but no sign of it here in the UK yet.  I guess I'll check in a couple of weeks.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: Dirk Remmecke on August 13, 2008, 04:12:22 AM
Quote from: S'mon;234897but no sign of it here in the UK yet.

Same here in Germany. Even worse, the biggest distributor, Pegasus Spiele, seems to have kicked Goodman Games out of their catalogue. There are only four items in their backlist, and they are all marked down 40-50%.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: estar on August 18, 2008, 12:22:10 AM
The first 11 pages of Points of Light have been posted

http://www.goodman-games.com/downloads/4380-PDF-Preview.pdf

Enjoy
Rob Conley
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: S'mon on August 18, 2008, 02:00:40 PM
Quote from: estar;236186The first 11 pages of Points of Light have been posted

http://www.goodman-games.com/downloads/4380-PDF-Preview.pdf

Enjoy
Rob Conley

Just read the first 2 paragraphs - already looks fantastic!  I'm craving this product!  :)
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: jswa on August 18, 2008, 04:00:45 PM
I'm just waiting on a little bit of disposable income before I go out and pick this up.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: S'mon on August 19, 2008, 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: S'mon;236343Just read the first 2 paragraphs - already looks fantastic!  I'm craving this product!  :)

Looks like it arrives in UK stores tomorrow - I have just placed my order with Leisure Games of north London, who have by far the best mail order service I know (for one thing p&p was only 80p).  I had actually been to LG on Monday, but no PoL and it's a three hour round trip so I decided mail order was best.  Looks like Orcs Nest are getting it in too.
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: jrients on August 19, 2008, 08:08:11 PM
I just got an email from my FLGS and my copy is in!  Sweet!
Title: More Points of Light
Post by: jswa on August 19, 2008, 08:48:39 PM
My FLGS does not currently have it, but they're ordering it for me, so I'll be getting it eventually.