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Monte hires an awesome guy to write new Native content for The Strange

Started by Zak S, April 27, 2015, 08:27:09 PM

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Yeah, I'm surprised there is no thread about Ohunkakan over at Lorraine Williams' Office/TBP. The one bitching about Thunder Plains was closed months ago.

I wasn't a big fan of what went down, but I like the replacement recursion. For the most part, I think one could run the same adventures planned for Thunder Plains in Ohunkakan. I'm not sure what happens with The Strange Bestiary in any future reprints though. Three critters specifically mention Thunder Plains, and of those the Wendigo has some background information that might not sync up well with the recursion. Or it might, I'm no expert on Native American mythology.

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Quote from: Paraguybrarian;839209Three critters specifically mention Thunder Plains, and of those the Wendigo has some background information that might not sync up well with the recursion. Or it might, I'm no expert on Native American mythology.

Wendigo is part of the Algonquin legends. The Algonquin are based mostly in the Canada region, but they were along the east cost and we had an agrarian tribe in the Ohio region.

antion

Cheyenne & Arapaho also US Plains-region & Algonquian-speaking.

But as you move away from regions with deep fear of survival cannibalism the word "wendigo" more likely to retain its older meaning, "owl". Which juxtaposition could serve the basis for a whole other monster, or a way to adapt it to a local context if that were desired - definitely something I've drawn on before.

Cree wihtikow - cannibal
Ojibwa wintiko - cannibal
Fox witekowa - owl
Kickapoo iitekoa - owl
Illinois menti8o - owl
Miami mindikwamasia - owl

Ohunkakan presents a humanoid man-eater though in the Double Face (which figure also changes a bit as you slide around the map).

Or use both - Ravenous put wendigos in California-or-was-it-Slovakia, and I love that movie.

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Quote from: antion;839271Cheyenne & Arapaho also US Plains-region & Algonquian-speaking.

But as you move away from regions with deep fear of survival cannibalism the word "wendigo" more likely to retain its older meaning, "owl". Which juxtaposition could serve the basis for a whole other monster, or a way to adapt it to a local context if that were desired - definitely something I've drawn on before.

Cree wihtikow - cannibal
Ojibwa wintiko - cannibal
Fox witekowa - owl
Kickapoo iitekoa - owl
Illinois menti8o - owl
Miami mindikwamasia - owl

Ohunkakan presents a humanoid man-eater though in the Double Face (which figure also changes a bit as you slide around the map).

Or use both - Ravenous put wendigos in California-or-was-it-Slovakia, and I love that movie.

That's some fascinating etymology.  And news to me.  Very cool!
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Is he going to do a Pacific Northwest adventure / supplement for the Strange?

I'm not a Monty Cook fan, but I might pick that up.

Better yet, I'd love to see him do something for CoC!

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Quote from: Spinachcat;839709Is he going to do a Pacific Northwest adventure / supplement for the Strange?

No plans for anything of that sort known to me. It is possible though I would do something similar independently at some point, likely with OSR stylings (mostly use S&W at home).

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Quote from: antion;839903No plans for anything of that sort known to me. It is possible though I would do something similar independently at some point, likely with OSR stylings (mostly use S&W at home).

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3 months ago:
Quote from: Zak S;828571So y'know what'll happen? All the people who took advantage of the original situation with The Strange to post little "How I Would've Handle This So Much Better" posts and messages about how great and inclusive they are will have nothing to be outraged about and will probably, therefore, post nothing at all about this.

...so, following a depressing pattern, people who claim to be extremely exercised about minority representation in gaming will ignore the fact that an actual Native writer who writes about actual Native settings and characters is getting a shot at the big(ger) time because it's not a Hey Everyone Freak Out message that makes the outraged citizen themself look good.

So the obvious opportunity to encourage actual, undeniable progress along by supporting Anthony will be passed over because it doesn't provide an easy way to make them look good or smart or More Engaged Than Thou.
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To be fair, it wasn't the most difficult of prognostications.  There were really only two possibilities:

a) the Pseudo-activists would say it somehow "isn't enough".

b) the Pseudo-activists would not react at all because it doesn't serve their purposes.
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Zak S

I excluded "isn't enough" because:

1. That would involve them in directly addressing Anthony and Alina's existence, which is embarrassing since they are (yet more) members of a marginalized group with undeniable talent who aren't Drama Club members

2. The more professionally-connected members of the Drama Club, would be forced to be welcoming to at least Anthony (since he's on G+) and this would mean there'd be a split between people who were forced into a "welcome Anthony to the fold of RPG freelancers!" position and those who were had forced themselves into a "nothing MCG could possibly do is enough!" position.

You actually see #2 happen a lot when the stakes are a little lower--the members of the Drama Club with RPG jobs have to kind of dissociate themselves from the positions taken by the people who have taken up positions which directly challenge people they'll have to see at Gen Con the next year or be on panels with or work with.

So you can see like Ettin vituperate against Mike Mearls but then Shannon Appelcline just has to kind of go Ettin? Who's that? Guy who works on my site? Never heard of him.
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Now that there's a thread over there, we can gauge the real reaction or lack.