Quote from: fellowhoodlum;828602Our group recently began a Primeval Thule campaign, so all these mythic Pacific Northwest ideas would certainly add more flavour to the setting...

It certainly is a fantastic area. As I sit here writing, I'm looking out the window on a sea of green leaves and pines and soaking up the Spring. It's quite nice, and I've often set my games up here. The area has a rich Native history and so I'm definitely interested in what this creator has to offer!

Quote from: Cryptofblood;832060Also flagged for ableist language like "moronic".

Ok, gotta be a troll, too hilarious to be anything else, or god I sure hope so.

Since we've already been told once to keep the politics out of this thread, can we get some more policing here, without closing this, the actual thread is starting to get interesting.

Quote from: One Horse Town;831794Admittedly i'm not coming at this strictly from a Native American standpoint, but does anyone have any sources about spirit quests?

I recently run a Pathfinder (the 1987 film) inspired game and while searching for info about Sami shamanism found this:
http://www.utexas.edu/courses/sami/diehtu/siida/religion/paralellism.htm

I hope you find it useful, specially the Sami bear ritual and the comparison with Sioux traditions. Also, the bibliography.

Quote from: CRKrueger;832091Since we've already been told once to keep the politics out of this thread, can we get some more policing here,

He must be allowed to speak on the off chance that he's not just trolling for lulz, if only to show that when we talk about freedom of critical discourse we mean it.

Just ignore him if you don't like him, he's just a block of text between more useful and reasonable blocks of text, like a banner ad on ENworld.

Quote from: One Horse Town;831794Admittedly i'm not coming at this strictly from a Native American standpoint, but does anyone have any sources about spirit quests?

Have you read Aleister Crowley's "The Vision and the Voice"?

That's the western-magick equivalent of a spirit-quest.

This is out now and is a free download.

http://www.montecookgames.com/store/product/ohunkakan-the-living-myths/

I'm really torn. The book and setting sound very cool but the circumstances that brought it about really chaps my ass as does the idea that its needed to "replace" the original Thunder Plains.

Quote from: Nexus;838343I'm really torn. The book and setting sound very cool but the circumstances that brought it about really chaps my ass as does the idea that its needed to "replace" the original Thunder Plains.

I grabbed it because it was free but haven't had a chance to read it yet. And while it's probably a good setting, the only reason I got it was because it was free. The whole mess behind its creation left a bad taste in my mouth.

The Thunder Plains won't be going anywhere if I ever run a game of The Strange, although I'd have to run it in a different system since I have at least one player who would never go for the Cypher system. She hates only using a single die.

So is it actually good? Is it better than what it replaces?

It would pretty much have to be an improvement. Its an entire supplement replaces a few sentences (which makes all the outrage even more ridiculous). But I hope to get a chance to give it a good look in a few days.

I'd assume its an improvement in a sense over the Thunder Plain in a sense since its an entire supplement to replace a few sentences (which makes all the outrage even more ridiculous). And it sounds like something almost completely different so a direct comparison might not be fair.  But I hope to get a chance to give it a good look in a few days. I like that the nature of setting means it doesn't have replace the original unless you want it too and can coexist with it as I think both have allot of potential. You can have your cake and eat it too.

I'm waiting for all the white sjws to tell the Native American author what he got wrong/offensive/whatever.

Quote from: CRKrueger;838684I'm waiting for all the white sjws to tell the Native American author what he got wrong/offensive/whatever.

I'm guessing you won't have to wait long.

Quote from: RPGPundit;839005I'm guessing you won't have to wait long.

I'll be really surprised if it he does.

Got it, read it, liked it. Currently reading several books on Native American Mythology. The real magic of this 6 page work is in stuff like its first page, making note of the living nature of stories and their occasional anachronistic blending, with great game-able descriptions. The items and monster toward the last two pages are also good gaming fodder.

The middle touches base with the solid basics one needs to know of NA myth (predominantly Plains), the primary stories of Coyote, Spider-weaver, Great Bear, Thunderbird, Water Serpent, etc. But they are couched in that the narrative story, the act of storytelling skill within the game, is a force of creation. As long as the story breathes, and follows its (or its mythical teller's) own story logic, it makes its own reality, its own sense. Thus mythic beings become personal, visitable, and through their patterns, allows heroics of one's own.

The Strange, the game, without having read it seems very reminiscent of games that deal with the Ethereal, fairy tales and myth, and/or dreamscapes. Could be a lot of fun if the mechanics can get out of the way. As an expanding chapter it paints a "'mythopological' world" (my collegiate-speak babble ), a melange of breathing anachronisms and narrative force, upon the North American Great Plains in 6 short pages.

The writing's good. Could make a nice sourcebook and adventure series.