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Monte Cook's Second Kickstarter is Up

Started by JRT, October 16, 2013, 11:35:31 AM

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The Traveller

#45
October 18, 2013, 08:16:56 AM
Quote from: Justin Alexander;700850MCG released buzz over the past two weeks through their existing fan communities.
Ah there you go.

Quote from: Justin Alexander;700850Also keep in mind that a successful Kickstarter is a long-term marketing bonanza: MCG has the ability to easily communicate with 4,600+ backers from the Numenera kickstarter. Just 20% of those backers is enough to put The Strange at $122,000.
More mid term I'd say, if they keep milking that cow it'll run dry sooner rather than later.
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#46
October 18, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: Maese Mateo;700875Since I'm in a similar situation, what I'm doing is only backing projects for the PDFs. While I understand why people like to have a dead tree version, PDFs are usually a good deal for us international backers. If you later on find out you love the game, most of the time you can purchase a physical copy on a store later on.

I can totally see how that might work for you but it just doesn't for me I'm afraid.  The PDF version of a gaming book is great for reference purposes but reading an entire gaming tome via PDF is a non-starter for me.  Plus a lot of physical book purchases now come with a PDF copy anyway.

I don't wish them any ill and I will still promote the projects to friends of mine who may be interested in backing them but until the cost of shipping becomes more reasonable I'm going to avoid them entirely.

Teazia

#47
October 22, 2013, 03:46:17 AM
I'm rather tired of Monte's schtick, but it seems many are not.  Bully for them and I suppose bully for Monte.
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#48
October 22, 2013, 04:45:41 AM
If it's anywhere near Numenera's quality, then I'll be getting it eventually, for sure. Not backing it though, it's not like it needs any more backers I'm sure. :D But I'll surely be considering it. Numenera basically changed my views of the dude from "skilled sure but not my thing" to "frickin' rpg genius".

Grymbok

#49
October 22, 2013, 05:04:20 AM
Quote from: The Traveller;700878Ah there you go.


More mid term I'd say, if they keep milking that cow it'll run dry sooner rather than later.

The Numenera kickstarter was over a year ago already, so they're not coming back too often.

Arduin

#50
October 22, 2013, 09:47:52 AM
Quote from: Ladybird;700233I've got no objections to being charged for shipping, because it's bloody expensive (Although it would be appreciated if the American firms could work out some distribution point in Europe and maybe other major regions, to make it easier for those customers...)

Too expensive for small volumes like we're talking about.

Warthur

#51
October 22, 2013, 10:16:13 AM
Not necessarily, Arduin - Chaosium have got some European distribution going on CoC 7th Edition, though to be fair that's thanks to their prior relationship with the French CoC licencees.
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#52
October 22, 2013, 10:25:49 AM
Quote from: Warthur;701907Not necessarily, Arduin - Chaosium have got some European distribution going on CoC 7th Edition, though to be fair that's thanks to their prior relationship with the French CoC licencees.

Chaosium isn't a kickstarter backed start up RPG concern though.  I'm not referring to long established companies.   (I should have been clearer)

But, I still don't understand the US to Canada shipping problem.  I thought that was supposed to go away when slick Willie signed NAFTA.

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#53
October 22, 2013, 06:50:28 PM
I'm guessing Monte is pretty happy he left WoTC around now.
Thing is, judging by his game-output so far, I still think it was better for D&D too.
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#54
October 23, 2013, 01:54:26 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;702073I'm guessing Monte is pretty happy he left WoTC around now.
Thing is, judging by his game-output so far, I still think it was better for D&D too.

You have more inside info than us for sure.  But judging by two successful KS, and a Planescape Torment pseudo sequel, you are probably correct!
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#55
October 23, 2013, 06:17:27 PM
I looked at the KickStarter, liked what I saw and backed at the All the Ebooks Level. I'm waiting eagerly.

Quote from: RPGPundit;702073I'm guessing Monte is pretty happy he left WoTC around now.
Thing is, judging by his game-output so far, I still think it was better for D&D too.

Gee Pundie, jealous much?

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#56
October 25, 2013, 06:14:26 PM
Quote from: TrekkieBOB;702313Gee Pundie, jealous much?

No, not at all. He's welcome to his success, and I'm grateful that 5e isn't going to have rules similar to Numenara's.

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#57
October 25, 2013, 08:19:15 PM
Quote from: UberMunchkin;700858Second.  The time involved.  I mean we're being asked to upfront a not inconsiderable amount of cash for game that unlikely to be delivered on time.  Classic example is CoC 7th Ed, the delivery estimate for that has gone from "We will have these books in your hands by Halloween 2013" to "We might be able to get them to you for March-April 2014 but we're not promising anything".
To be fair, the delivery date for CoC7E was pushed back long before the Kickstarter campaign ended (they even polled backers on November delivery, or colour and delayed delivery - delayed delivery won); you could've withdrawn your pledge if you didn't like the new delivery.

Quote from: Arduin;701909But, I still don't understand the US to Canada shipping problem.  I thought that was supposed to go away when slick Willie signed NAFTA.
USPS international shipping prices have increased substabtially in the past year. USPS has been operating at a loss for some time - what do you expect? What does NAFTA have to do with USPS costs to move packages to Canada?
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#58
October 26, 2013, 05:06:31 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;702934No, not at all. He's welcome to his success, and I'm grateful that 5e isn't going to have rules similar to Numenara's.

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I think you're unfairly making an assumption that Numenara is just D&D rules Monte wanted to use instead of something different.  I expect that if Monte was still doing work for WoTC, he'd be taking a more traditional approach to the game and I doubt GM Intrusions and other rules would have suddenly appeared in D&D 5e.  A game designer's output can be radically different based on the assignment and product.
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October 26, 2013, 05:12:13 PM Last Edit: October 26, 2013, 05:14:16 PM by Arduin
Quote from: Bobloblah;702972What does NAFTA have to do with USPS costs to move packages to Canada?

I have no idea.  I wasn't talking about USPS prices... (I don't know any business person stupid enough to use USPS for international shipping.  Do you?) :jaw-dropping:
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