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[Classic Traveller] My players are whiny bitches or: How is experience acquired?

Started by Imperator, April 19, 2012, 11:40:33 AM

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Shawn Driscoll

Quote from: Xavier Onassiss;535665But... that's not right... it isn't canon... you can't do that in Traveller! ...etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

It was beyond tiresome. My advice; if you decide to run a non-standard Traveller campaign, find some new Traveller players who aren't completely hung up on what's considered "canon" and what isn't.

If a player can't say a sentence without the word canon in it, they're not even invited to a game.  Also, they're not very good social RPG players either.

jeff37923

Quote from: Xavier Onassiss;535665It's refreshing, really, to hear that Traveller is still attracting new players who are interested in incorporating more up-to-date material into it. I went that route a number of times, in various iterations of Traveller. It went alright with new players who weren't emotionally invested in the "classic" Traveller universe, but with "old school" players it was always a problem. They don't deal with change very well.

But... that's not right... it isn't canon... you can't do that in Traveller! ...etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

It was beyond tiresome. My advice; if you decide to run a non-standard Traveller campaign, find some new Traveller players who aren't completely hung up on what's considered "canon" and what isn't.

The simpler solution is to just tell the canonista to go fuck themselves.

Just like you would in any other game that has been around for decades or has a lot of background.
"Meh."

Spike

Quote from: Marleycat;535668Meh, it's just like Lot5R fuck the canon monkeys. Say this is the deal, you disagree? Leave. Simple. :)

When I get done reading the books I plan to run Traveller in a Serenity Universe. Fuck all of you if you say it's wrong.

L5R canon is worse since it was developed in a fucking entirely different type of Game, the collectable card sets.  At least in Traveller there is a tiny handful of books, most of them written decades ago, that more or less describe 'canon', which then remains more or less fixed.

Also: Every gamer I've ever spoken with agrees that Serenity/Firefly feels like Traveller for TV.  Given the absolute MASTERY of Astrophysics demonstrated in the Serenity RPG, I wholly endorse adapting it to a setting where the show elements can be made to fit (lots and lots of worlds, often 'far from civilization' works better in traveller with weeks of travel time (and that 'punch it' drive does work as a Jump Drive better than... whatever its supposed to be. Rather then cram the entire 'verse into a single wonky-impossible solar system (triple solar system thing?  How'd that map look again? THree suns, but each had their own orbiting planets, all intersecting? Man, I am a chump with physics (give me chemestry any day), and I know that doesn't work.)

And hey: They still use guns and lasers are rare military equipment, so you don't have to adapt the gear either. Also: There are core worlds and not-so core worlds... which T also has....


Now you just gotta learn chinese and yer set.
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jeff37923

"Meh."

Spike

yeah, yeah, yeah... I know, a picture is worth a thousand words. I like words, sue me. :)
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jeff37923

Quote from: Spike;535788yeah, yeah, yeah... I know, a picture is worth a thousand words. I like words, sue me. :)

Just steal the picture already. :)
"Meh."

Spike

Quote from: jeff37923;535790Just steal the picture already. :)

If I did that I wouldn't be able to do a long and rambling post detailing in agonizing detail just how Traveller maps to Serenity/Firefly.

You wouldn't want to deny me that simple pleasure, would you?
For you the day you found a minor error in a Post by Spike and forced him to admit it, it was the greatest day of your internet life.  For me it was... Tuesday.

For the curious: Apparently, in person, I sound exactly like the Youtube Character The Nostalgia Critic.   I have no words.

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jeff37923

Quote from: Spike;535793If I did that I wouldn't be able to do a long and rambling post detailing in agonizing detail just how Traveller maps to Serenity/Firefly.

You wouldn't want to deny me that simple pleasure, would you?

You could still do that, but add the picture at the end to give the reader an extra reward! :)
"Meh."

Imperator

After our first session last Friday, lots of good sensations. We loved the game.

Also, I love not giving out XP and not having to bother about them. Life is beautifully simple in Traveller.
My name is Ramón Nogueras. Running now Vampire: the Masquerade (Giovanni Chronicles IV for just 3 players), and itching to resume my Call of Cthulhu campaign (The Sense of the Sleight-of-Hand Man).

beeber

Quote from: Imperator;535807After our first session last Friday, lots of good sensations. We loved the game.

Also, I love not giving out XP and not having to bother about them. Life is beautifully simple in Traveller.

how are you doing experience, if at all?

Kuroth

Quote from: Imperator;535807After our first session last Friday, lots of good sensations. We loved the game.

Also, I love not giving out XP and not having to bother about them. Life is beautifully simple in Traveller.

Awesome to read that the campaign is going so well Imperator!  It's also good to know that the setting mix you planned is developing well too.

Imperator

Quote from: beeber;535812how are you doing experience, if at all?
I plan on doing it by the books: you want an increase in your scores, you embark in a 4 year development plan, and then you get to raise your skilss as per the book.

I'm open to the possibility of PCs embarking in other, more intensive training programs that may help them get the level 1 in a skill faster. However, to go beyond level 1 I would apply the usual rules. We'll see how it works.

Quote from: Kuroth;535905Awesome to read that the campaign is going so well Imperator!  It's also good to know that the setting mix you planned is developing well too.
Well, the mix hasn't played a big role yet as they're in Imperial territory and haven't crossed yet to the Alliance space. But the players are happy because they got to play the aliens they wanted, so it's OK :)
My name is Ramón Nogueras. Running now Vampire: the Masquerade (Giovanni Chronicles IV for just 3 players), and itching to resume my Call of Cthulhu campaign (The Sense of the Sleight-of-Hand Man).

jeff37923

"Meh."