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The WOTC 2024 Monster Manual won't be delivered, until 2025.

Started by Jam The MF, February 12, 2024, 08:02:21 PM

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BadApple

Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 14, 2024, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: BadApple on February 14, 2024, 10:37:18 AM


This is the same jackass that said Hasbro stock is up in another thread.  You're going to have to help me see him as anything other that a WOTC stan or I'm just going to keep calling him a white knight.

The only area that I'm stating Mistwell is correct is in regards to the fact that 5.5E will and does use stock 5E monsters as being backwards compatible and there will be "few" issues in regards to pushing out the PHB and DMG out early and wait till later for the MM to be updated.

Oh, I know that it's supposed to be compatible.  I still thing it's a horrendously poor idea do space out the distribution of the new core books. 

Players buy the PHB and GMs tend to buy the GM Guide and MM at the same time.  They need to have about 6-10x the amount of PHB as singles as they need for the other books and they really should sell all three books as a set with only a few singles released for the GM Guide and MM.   
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

Grognard GM

#46
Quote from: BadApple on February 14, 2024, 12:24:49 PMI personally like 5e (until 10th level) and would like to see it stick around. IMO, it's a better game than 3e/3.5/Pathfinder 1e.

I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Grognard GM

Quote from: Svenhelgrim on February 14, 2024, 04:38:49 PMOr maybe the have to teach the A.I. how to write and create monster stat blocks and descriptions since they fired most of their staff?

How hard is it to tell the A.I. to make the monsters really weak, so that the PC's can defeat them effortlessly, and feel like superheroes?
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

BadApple

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 14, 2024, 06:06:47 PM
Quote from: BadApple on February 14, 2024, 12:24:49 PMI personally like 5e (until 10th level) and would like to see it stick around. IMO, it's a better game than 3e/3.5/Pathfinder 1e.



My sides...  ;D
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

Svenhelgrim

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 14, 2024, 06:10:42 PM
Quote from: Svenhelgrim on February 14, 2024, 04:38:49 PMOr maybe the have to teach the A.I. how to write and create monster stat blocks and descriptions since they fired most of their staff?

How hard is it to tell the A.I. to make the monsters really weak, so that the PC's can defeat them effortlessly, and feel like superheroes?
Not that hard. The hard part is finding someone who checks all the diversity criterea so they can slap their name on the cover.  Hazards-of-the-bro has gotten such a bad reputation that they can't find any trans-disabled-POC-vegan cook book writers that will willingly associate with them.

Grognard GM

Quote from: Svenhelgrim on February 14, 2024, 06:15:12 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on February 14, 2024, 06:10:42 PM
Quote from: Svenhelgrim on February 14, 2024, 04:38:49 PMOr maybe the have to teach the A.I. how to write and create monster stat blocks and descriptions since they fired most of their staff?

How hard is it to tell the A.I. to make the monsters really weak, so that the PC's can defeat them effortlessly, and feel like superheroes?
Not that hard. The hard part is finding someone who checks all the diversity criterea so they can slap their name on the cover.  Hazards-of-the-bro has gotten such a bad reputation that they can't find any trans-disabled-POC-vegan cook book writers that will willingly associate with them.

WotC: "You seem to tick all the boxes, can you just sign here to claim all the work as your own."

Box Ticker: "Sure thing."

WotC: "Oh sorry, being able to write is ableist."
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

DocJones

Quote from: Jam The MF on February 12, 2024, 08:02:21 PM
Per Tenkar's Tavern: the WOTC 2024 Edition Monster Manual, won't be delivered until 2025.  It will be the last of the Core 3 Rulebooks, to be delivered.
Just in time for the 51st anniversary of D&D.
A professional company would have had this whole 50th anniversary thing all planned out 5 years ago.

Jam The MF

Quote from: Exploderwizard on February 14, 2024, 03:39:11 PM
I guess people could still use the old monster manual for now but it will be a clumsy fit. The old MM will still have references to savagery and slavery  :o. It will also have XP awards for defeating them instead of the new social justice points system awards for defending them. After reading the new PHB and DMG, the new snowflake player base will be SHOCKED! Shocked I say, to see these barbaric references in the old MM. They won't quite know what to do and and may require therapy after reading.  ;)


The Orcs and Drow are still bad horrible monsters, that should be slain on sight; in all of my early 5E books.  :)  All the way up to the first print run of Tasha's, anyway.  That's when I stopped buying their Monster and Player Option splat books, for 5E.  Tasha's tipped off everyone, to WOTC's true intentions; and it got far worse, after that.  I didn't even glance at the 2nd go round of Mordenkainen's; since I already had the 1st version, and Volo's.  The 2nd Mordenkainen's, was just a trashing of the 1st one plus Volo's.  Eliminating relevant text, and calling it an update.  A sleazy company, for sure.
Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

Svenhelgrim

Quote from: DocJones on February 14, 2024, 06:44:48 PM
Quote from: Jam The MF on February 12, 2024, 08:02:21 PM
Per Tenkar's Tavern: the WOTC 2024 Edition Monster Manual, won't be delivered until 2025.  It will be the last of the Core 3 Rulebooks, to be delivered.
Just in time for the 51st anniversary of D&D.
A professional company would have had this whole 50th anniversary thing all planned out 5 years ago.

Luckily we will have that new Spelljammer novel with the fat chick in it to tide us over.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/731383/dungeons-and-dragons-spelljammer-memorys-wake-by-django-wexler/