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Competing With CCGs For Space

Started by jeff37923, August 10, 2013, 04:37:54 PM

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deadDMwalking

#60
August 31, 2013, 08:29:27 PM
It's not entirely untrue.  Pokemon was a big pile of money.  It wasn't going to last long, but it was a lot of money in the short term, and Hasbro made their decision on that short-term big pile of money.  But I'm sure they considered the long-term money stream that Magic might represent.  In any case, it's a confirmation that the decision wasn't a bad one - from a business point of view.
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#61
August 31, 2013, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: deadDMwalking;687355It's not entirely untrue.  Pokemon was a big pile of money.  It wasn't going to last long, but it was a lot of money in the short term, and Hasbro made their decision on that short-term big pile of money.  But I'm sure they considered the long-term money stream that Magic might represent.  In any case, it's a confirmation that the decision wasn't a bad one - from a business point of view.

Even when bought, Magic was the longterm horse of WotC. Pokemon couldn't be expected to carry that far since it wasn't an owned property. There is no way Magic wasn't a major consideration in the purchase.

Ravenswing

#62
September 01, 2013, 12:27:37 AM
I'm sure if Internet forums existed in the late 1970s, there'd be similar angsty threads on "theWargamerSite" and "WARG.net" about how the grognard wargamers could retake their FLWSs, that were overrun by those idiot kids blathering on about orcs, polydice and dungeons, and to whom the owners were inexplicably catering.

But that's what happened -- the wargaming stores of the 70s and earlier turned into RPG outlets, by and large, because that's where the money was.  To the degree the FLGSs still had product for the old-time wargamers, they were second-class citizens.

I recognize the antagonism towards Those Damn Kids And Their Card Games, but we've no more moral right to exclusive, CCG-free use of the gaming stores than the wargamers before us did.
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estar

#63
September 01, 2013, 12:53:32 AM
Quote from: David Johansen;680882I really wish more companies had good point of entry products.  It's hard to pitch $200 in GURPS books to a person who's never played an rpg.

Don't tell us! Go and complain to SJ Games. A bunch of us been pointing out that to them for years. As a retailer they will be more apt to listen to you then forum folks. The #1 complaint I get from potential GURPS gamers is the lack of a ready to play book.

David Johansen

#64
September 01, 2013, 01:05:41 AM
Every time they survey retailers.  Every time they ask for opinions, I do just that.  I say, I don't carry Munchkin, I don't carry Zombie Dice, but I do carry GURPS and you guys are making it bloody hard to sell it.

Mind you, I'm a lunatic fringe retailer on the best of days.  There hasn't been a single month in the eighteen I've been open when I didn't wonder if it would be my last.  Still I am making progress.  It's slow but it's progress.  More luck with the kids than the adults.

Really though, I guess that shouldn't surprise me.  Even as a kid I knew adults were idiots :D
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September 02, 2013, 12:03:57 PM Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 12:09:50 PM by Piestrio
Quote from: estar;687378Don't tell us! Go and complain to SJ Games. A bunch of us been pointing out that to them for years. As a retailer they will be more apt to listen to you then forum folks. The #1 complaint I get from potential GURPS gamers is the lack of a ready to play book.

Yup. Nearly all my FLGS's have said the same thing in recent years.

GURPS is too much hassle to carry and nobody wants to get into it because the 10'000 books perception.

SJgames just doesn't give a damn.
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dungeon crawler

#66
September 04, 2013, 06:34:36 PM
Quote from: Piestrio;687794Yup. Nearly all my FLGS's have said the same thing in recent years.

GURPS is too much hassle to carry and nobody wants to get into it because the 10'000 books perception.

SJgames just doesn't give a damn.

 I am wondering if that is WOTC problem as well. They just don't care about us "clunky role players" as ccg makes piles of fast money.
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