I've simply used it too much, or has anyone else had theirs fall apart already.

That said, I'm thinking about going for the Kobold Press kickstarter for more  5e monsters, the Tome of Beasts.

Anyone else?

There were reports of some peoples PHB falling apart ASAP. WOTC was replacing them if you were willing to send in the bad one. But only if the disintigration was soon after purchase.

My PHB had some early issues. But so far has not come apart. The DMG is so far fine and the MM is in good shape. Seems like one or two batches werent glued well.

As for the Kobold stuff. They need to think their product through a little more before I'll buy another. Thir two Tyranny of Dragons modules were sloppy in spots. But some of that may be WOTC after-editing gaffes. The Southlands Heroes book was just a 3e SRD/OGL with 5e slapped on the cover so that leaves me distrustfull of any more so called 5e material from them. Especially if they are working too much off 3e instead of actually looking at and understanding the 5e material.

Southlands was interesting though. But did creep into overpowered. The hive druid comes to mind. The Ambush Predator path for the assasin though felt fairly balanced to 5e. All the werecreature material felt ruched and a bit incoherent.

Yeah, my PHB split, unfortunately not soon after purchase because I wasn't using it much at first. Pretty poor quality, I reckon (never had a problem with my 3.0 books).

This is what happens when you get shit printed in China...I do realize it's to keep costs down, but almost all the hardcovers I've bought recently printed over there have terrible bindings. My old AD&D books, however, are virtually indestructible.

Hmm, mine haven't fallen apart yet. Hopefully they don't.

That Kickstarter looks good though. But $50 for the book...

My PHB fell apart in 6 months. Might get it spiral bound. Other books fine but barely use them.

All of my core books are still in great shape. I purchased them all at release and I am running 3 separate 5E campaigns, so they are seeing heavy use, especially during session prep. At the table, not so much except the PHB to occasionally look up spell effects.

I've been using PDFs on my iPad. They seem to be holding up just fine.

I still want to pick up hard copies, though.

I am kind of amazed at how tough those original AD&D books were. Mine are still in great shape too. I'm not sure who makes rulebooks of that quality these days. I just now bought several hardcovers, Dark Heresy stuff and the Big Gold Book for BRP... and I'm handling all of them with careful caution.

"Monster manual is kaput..."

"Well, that's disconcerting."

Movie reference! Get it? Get it? Ahhh, never mind.

Quote from: Brad;859200This is what happens when you get shit printed in China...I do realize it's to keep costs down, but almost all the hardcovers I've bought recently printed over there have terrible bindings. My old AD&D books, however, are virtually indestructible.

Really? I've never seen an AD&D 1st or 2nd edition hardcover that didn't have pages falling out of it. When I told a buddy about the reports of 5th ed PHBs falling apart, he said he wasn't surprised as "they've always had shitty binding." Which is kind of amusing since this is now two companies later.

Quote from: everloss;859250Really? I've never seen an AD&D 1st or 2nd edition hardcover that didn't have pages falling out of it. When I told a buddy about the reports of 5th ed PHBs falling apart, he said he wasn't surprised as "they've always had shitty binding." Which is kind of amusing since this is now two companies later.

My AD&D Monster Manual, PHB, and DMG are each in one piece, and I promise you I got plenty of use out of all of them. Heck, even used the 30 year old books for a AD&D reboot I did 4 years ago, and they're still good.

Quote from: everloss;859250Really? I've never seen an AD&D 1st or 2nd edition hardcover that didn't have pages falling out of it. When I told a buddy about the reports of 5th ed PHBs falling apart, he said he wasn't surprised as "they've always had shitty binding." Which is kind of amusing since this is now two companies later.

The ones printed before the orange spine editions are unbelievably tough and durable. The later printings, Unearthed Arcana, the DSG and WSG had weak bindings. The exception is Oriental Adventures. My copy is in very good shape.

The funny thing is, the books I've used most have held up better than the ones I use least.

As for the lost Monster Manual, I have a suggestion:

If you can salvage the pages, put them in a binder. If you can't, get hold of one of the PDFs, print out the pages and put them in a binder. I did this with a badly damaged MM I got second hand. I cut, copied and pasted the monsters I used most often into a binder, along with pertinent information from the DMG, FF, MM2 and other sources.

In other words, cutting, copying and pasting is not just a convenient way to get more use out of a damaged MM, but will save you future wear and tear on an intact copy, should you ever decide to get one.

Quote from: everloss;859250Really? I've never seen an AD&D 1st or 2nd edition hardcover that didn't have pages falling out of it. When I told a buddy about the reports of 5th ed PHBs falling apart, he said he wasn't surprised as "they've always had shitty binding." Which is kind of amusing since this is now two companies later.

Depends on how late in you got a AD&D book. The early ones are excellent. Anything during the Williams era all bets are off. Who knows what corners were or were not cut along the way.

All of my books are still in pretty good shape overall. But as with all things print related. Sometimes you just get a bad batch and it may not show problems till later. I think my Unearthed Arcana book was the flimsiest and even that is still holding together.

Even my Council of Wyrms hardback which has taken an absolute beating is still holding together.