Quote from: J ArcaneIt's already been through 5 editions under the BRP system, why not a 6th?

No kidding.  I have a soft spot in my cold, hard heart for the 1st Ed. of Stormbringer in it's sleek, sexy thin box.  Using this along with the was it the first companion or second that had the "dungeon" that included a map with an X on it.  The X had an arrow pointing to it with a note from the scenario author stating: "This is the farthest point any group has ever made it into the dungeon."

Good times.

Although, with 5 editions of Elric/Stormbringer already out, you would maybe think, the market might be saturated with Elric RPGs?  Nah.

Is the new Mongoose Runequest basically a variation of BRP?

Quote from: jrientsPersonally, for the term 'Holy Grail' to hold any merit and not merely be a piece of publisher hyperbole (a real possibility here), I think the new license would have to be either D&D (which I find unlikely and abhorrent) or a property that has never appeared in RPG form.  Doctor Who, Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel, DC, Indiana Jones, and Lords of the Rings don't strike me as Holy Grails because I can already buy at least two RPGs for each.  The Matrix might be someone else's idea of a Holy Grail license, but how hot is that property in the Year of Our Lord 2007?

I agree with all of the above. My other thought (refuted by Matt) was that the "holy grail" is just a marketing device (i.e., just a way to keep Mongoose in the public eye where their then upcoming IP acquisitions were concerned). After all, since the initial announcement, they've acquired and/or published several ostensibly "hot" properties.

Quote from: rcsampleIs the new Mongoose Runequest basically a variation of BRP?

Yes, but a lot of BRP fans generally and old RQ fans specifically consider it an uglification. I haven't looked at it too closely myself in spite of there being an SRD, but I gather it added some sort of Feat-like mechanisms, which I'd certainly see as a bit of an uglification.

If it's not Potter then the Mongoose comments are pure hyperbole.

"Holy Grail" implies a much sought after, near-mythically elusive object of enormous inherent value. The only other two IP's that satisfy that kind of worth are Star Wars and LotR, and they've both been licensed twice each, rendering the whole 'unobtainable' idea moot.

As far as I'm aware Rowling is amenable to the idea of a Potter game, she just doesn't want anything released until she's done with writing the story. Once the final book is published (this year? next?) then she'll be less proprietorial about the setting and characters.

At least that's how I understand it. To be honest I find the idea of HP: The RPG to be incredibly underwhelming, but then again I wouldn't be the target audience. A shiny, new, thoroughly researched Doctor Who game on the other hand would have me foaming at the mouth with expectation, but there's no way I can see that happening any time soon.

Quote from: DrewOnce the final book is published (this year? next?)

What rock are you living under? Next *month*.

Quote from: ElectroKittyWhat rock are you living under? Next *month*.

The non-Potter fandom rock. There's billions of us under here, you know.

That and I've just spent the last couple of weeks laid up in hospital. When I was discharged earlier I had to check with friends that we still had the same Prime Minister. :deflated:

:lol:

I take it you haven't been anywhere near a bookstore in the last 3 months? I mean, it's kinda hard to miss the advertising...

Quote from: ElectroKittyI take it you haven't been anywhere near a bookstore in the last 3 months? I mean, it's kinda hard to miss the advertising...

Nope. I'm more of a library person these days. Maybe the advertising occupies some kind of memetic blind spot I have. Regardless, I haven't noticed it. At all.

So well, when did Mongoose give some official word on WHAT the "holy grail" acutally is? Any idea?

My wife guesses Doctor Who.

Has fingers crossed for a Thundar the barbarian RPG. :hmm:  Probably not even close to the right answer. But a fella can dream cant he!:p

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!My wife guesses Doctor Who.

The only way I would be at all excited about this is if it turned out that Torson and Marsh were involved, and it was going to be the new edition of Time Lord they were trying to get approval from the BBC for.

Otherwise I wouldn't trust Mongoose with it just on principle, nor do I think it would be a good fit for D20.  BRP/RQ maybe, but I wouldn't trust them there just based on how half-assed the RQ books apparently were.

Quote from: RezendevousHarry Potter, maybe - I can see that as being more a holy grail than LOTR.  I know that Rowling has said she won't allow an RPG, but maybe that's what the long negotiation is all about.  And Mongoose is probably one of the only companies that would have a shot at it.  Odds are it's not that, though, of course.

Erik's correct, that is a better holy grail than I had thought of.

I wouldn't play it, but then I don't really get why adults are reading children's books.

What?  I'm elitist, sue me.

Quote from: BalbinusI wouldn't play it, but then I don't really get why adults are reading children's books.

What?  I'm elitist, sue me.

The HP novels are heads and shoulders above most "adult" novels. Better grammar, better characters, more interesting dialog, stronger plot...

Quote from: RoninHas fingers crossed for a Thundar the barbarian RPG. :hmm:  Probably not even close to the right answer. But a fella can dream cant he!:p

Your dreams are answered...if you didn't know already:
Under the Broken Moon, the [unauthorized] Thundar the Barbarian RPG