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Mongoose's "Holy Grail"

Started by ConanMK, June 13, 2007, 05:04:07 PM

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Ronin

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Ya I've seen that before. I just would like to see something more official. And as much as I do like risus, and over the edge freeform. With that I think I would rather have something, more crunchy in milk.
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Rezendevous

Quote from: BalbinusErik's correct, that is a better holy grail than I had thought of.

I wouldn't play it, but then I don't really get why adults are reading children's books.

What?  I'm elitist, sue me.

The Hobbit is a children's book too, but adults read it, and rightly so.  If the books are good, it doesn't matter who they're written for.

Balbinus

Quote from: RezendevousThe Hobbit is a children's book too, but adults read it, and rightly so.  If the books are good, it doesn't matter who they're written for.

A fair point actually, if the Harry Potter books were any good I'd probably have thought of it myself.

That said, the Hobbit is one of very few exceptions, as a rule children's books are for children.  Adults generally are capable of taking on a bit more by way of character and plot.

Well, adults who enjoy reading anyway.

arminius

Have you read the D'Aulaire mythology books, Balb? Especially Norse Gods & Giants?

Hm, time for an off-topic thread. EDIT: No make that RPG-related.

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no problem...here it is...and it's FREE. :D

waggishness aside, i'd buy a 'Sourcebook' for the Python middle ages in a heartbeat.
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Personally, the only license I can imagine that wouldn't be total exaggeration to call the "holy grail" of gaming licenses would be Harry Potter.  If it turns out to be anything else, I'm fairly certain that I'd judge their claim of holy grail to be bullshit.

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Quote from: RPGPunditPersonally, the only license I can imagine that wouldn't be total exaggeration to call the "holy grail" of gaming licenses would be Harry Potter.  If it turns out to be anything else, I'm fairly certain that I'd judge their claim of holy grail to be bullshit.

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You make a good point.  I understand trying to hype your products but if they promise the Holy Grail and deliver something weak then they have lost all credibility in my book.

I hit the Mongoose forums a lot and I just checked the "What Should Mongoose Publish Next" thread.  There were quite a few suggestions, many of which have been mentioned here, and some new ones (Malazan, Kane, Predator v. Alien v. Terminator - wtf) but oddly enough Harry Potter was never mentioned.  Either no one on the board thought of it or they figured it wasn't possible.
 

jdrakeh

Quote from: GrimjackEither no one on the board thought of it or they figured it wasn't possible.

Or they didn't care about it. It might be an indicator as to the market crossover (I personally know only one or two Potter fans with an interest in RPGs, though I know a lot of Potter fans).
 

pspahn

Quote from: ElectroKittyThe HP novels are heads and shoulders above most "adult" novels. Better grammar, better characters, more interesting dialog, stronger plot...

Please stop.  The HP books are an entertaining read, but great writing they are not--cardboard characters, formulaic plots, and deus ex machina of the worst kind.  But, the setting itself is very evocative.  

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Balbinus

Quote from: ElectroKittyThe HP novels are heads and shoulders above most "adult" novels. Better grammar, better characters, more interesting dialog, stronger plot...

With respect, you're reading the wrong adult novels.

And incidentally, I don't just read highbrow literature and the like, I love the pulps, I love the holy trinity of hardboiled (Chandler, Hammett and Spillane), I read crime fiction and sf as well.

But the fact is the HP novels are poorly characterised and weakly written, if they compare well to other stuff you're reading then you really are reading some poor stuff and there is far better out there.

Balbinus

Quote from: Elliot WilenHave you read the D'Aulaire mythology books, Balb? Especially Norse Gods & Giants?

Hm, time for an off-topic thread. EDIT: No make that RPG-related.

No, are they still worth it given I missed them as a kid?  Few childrens books, even great ones, merit reading as an adult sadly so if you miss them you miss them.

The Once and Future King is probably another of those exceptions incidentally.

Balbinus

Quote from: BalbinusWith respect, you're reading the wrong adult novels.

And incidentally, I don't just read highbrow literature and the like, I love the pulps, I love the holy trinity of hardboiled (Chandler, Hammett and Spillane), I read crime fiction and sf as well.

But the fact is the HP novels are poorly characterised and weakly written, if they compare well to other stuff you're reading then you really are reading some poor stuff and there is far better out there.

Hm.

Actually, I'm being a bit of a dick on this issue.  Sorry Electrokitty, I've no business crapping on books you like just because I don't.

Ian Absentia

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That would be 1st edition Gamma World. :D Seriously!

Bythe way, I started skimming after a bit, so I may have missed something.  Given Mongoose's ongoing track record, has anyone considered that the "holy grail" might be the Lovecraftian Mythos?

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J Arcane

Quote from: Ian AbsentiaThat would be 1st edition Gamma World. :D Seriously!

Bythe way, I started skimming after a bit, so I may have missed something.  Given Mongoose's ongoing track record, has anyone considered that the "holy grail" might be the Lovecraftian Mythos?

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Quote from: J ArcaneWhat, exactly, would Chaosium be left with at this point?  Wouldn't they pretty much have to close up shop without Cthulhu?
Hey, Mongoose hasn't exactly been asking politely for anything from Chaosium thus far.  Isn't there some difference of opinion who holds the rights to the Mythos anyway?

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