Shield Maidens are Popular, Hot and Cool.  Those are the only reasons Mongoose has ever needed.

QuoteNooooo, sort of... not really. Again, we will go deeper into this but, in a nutshell, the Shield Maidens have been tasked with getting time moving again. The Fenrir Empire is standing in their way.

I must really say that like probably dumbest use of Nordic mythology I could think about.
"Get time moving again?" Like Fenrir is not force of imperial stagnation. Fenrir is force of anihilationism, engine of Ragnarok. "As the agents of Fenrir try to stifle free thought and social justice, crush individuality and deny diversity,". That's just some symbolic travesty. If you made Loki's lot and giants as revolutionaries against stagnant Asgard I could buy it (like concept not rpg). This way it's cheapest possible SJW narrative wrapped in most unfit mythological narrative.

Like wouldn't it be more fitting if you want use Nordic mythology to be Lokikin being forces of destruction, and Asgard being stagnant order. That would somehow fit this prog narrative.

QuoteIndeed. Honestly, I've never felt "represented" by "traditional" eurocentric fantasy tropes because they are all also very Anglocentric. As a Baltic/Slavic/Romani Jew, that just isn't me at all. D&D itself was aswarm with Christianity from the beginning.

I mean even by the Dwarves, mate?

QuoteWell, to be fair your lot were actively trying to erase RPGs first, in the 80s.

Well in this case I think it's gonna be perfectly justified to accuse you of Stalin and Mao crimes as self-proclaimed anti-clerical leftist

QuoteAnd didn't you Christians appropriate your 'culture' from the middle-east anyway?

A. Religion is not culture.
B. There are still Christians with ancient roots in Middle-East and their culture is distinctly Semitic/Egyptian to the point in historical sources it's hard to differentiate between Christian, pagan and Muslim Bedouins unless religious rituals are explicitly mentioned.

QuoteNewsflash for the SJWs and everyone else: no one plays RPGs to represent themselves.

That's in my experience utterly untrue. Plenty people I know plays some enhanced own avatars, or very clearly builds there character about some own vices and virtues in persistent matter.
I mean all my characters till last one for instance were bearded dudes My very LN friend generally plays only very LN sometimes LE characters and so on.

Now of course it's not 1-1 translation of own life, but then neither is SJW representation.

QuoteI think it is a bit odd to pigeon hole the titular hero class to a specific gender honestly.  I probably would not play it, and I guarantee my son will certainly not play it.  I am sure there will be good supporting reasons the rebellious Freya is leading the heroic charge to overthrow the evil empire that hates diversity and inclusion that is not politically charged.  It is just a non starter for the pigeon hole (I am sure they will boost the supporting cast as a matter of fact) on the gender, as I play with my son and nephew and neither of them are interested in any play being a girl character (their terminology).

And that's just fine. Not every game is for everybody. In fact trying to make your game really for everybody, abandoning themes and leitmotives usually ends with game for nobody.

Quote from: Wrath of God on March 29, 2022, 09:01:24 AM
A. Religion is not culture.

Eh, did you not even bother to read the posts? This was already established.

Quote from: crkrueger on March 22, 2022, 10:09:39 PM
Shield Maidens are Popular, Hot and Cool.  Those are the only reasons Mongoose has ever needed.

If only they were in the game and it was about those kind of Shield Maidens.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll on March 29, 2022, 11:00:44 PM
If only they were in the game and it was about those kind of Shield Maidens.

If only you didn't start a whole bullshit thread because you are butthurt over getting modded on the Mongoose forums......

Quote from: MongooseMatt on March 13, 2022, 04:27:47 AM
It was not deleted by MongooseKat, nor anyone working at Mongoose. We have a couple of volunteers on our forums who typically spend their time deleting spam posts, and it was one of them who did this.

I was concerned that it had happened, as the number of times we have actively deleted non-spam posts over twenty years can perhaps be counted on two hands and generally only because of threatening behaviour (once, as I recall) and genuinely offensive stuff on a complete twonkish level. Basically, we like to keep a very light touch.

So, I spoke to the moderator to find out what had happened. A complaint from another forum user had drawn attention to the post and the moderator judged your post to not be a serious question and instead be deliberate 'bait'. Now, this bit is important: The moderator actually likes your posts in general and thinks you play a decent Devil's Advocate. They just felt that doing this on a thread that was effectively a press release was Not Cool, and decided to delete it. They did say to me that if you had posted the same thing in another thread, they would likely have not touched it.

If it had been me getting to it first... well, I might not have been best pleased with it popping up on a PR piece but I may have left it (light touch). If it had been in another thread, I would certainly have skipped it by.

I realize this is technically off topic but it needs to be addressed.

It doesn't matter if the action was taken by a volunteer, because you're the one who gave them the authority to make that call. It doesn't matter if they otherwise 'like' this poster's posts, only that the rules were not applied consistently. And I hate to say given current year and what I know about the author the question was not entirely unwarranted.

The buck stops with you, and instead you're passing it. Not cool.

Hey there,

I absolutely do take responsibility - I just wanted to be transparent as to the process involved.

Also... I imagine this may only be of interest to a few but...

The Shield Maidens Kickstarter is now live:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1990654819/shield-maidens-a-new-viking-cyberpunk-tabletop-rpg

Quote from: MongooseMatt on April 01, 2022, 09:18:52 AM
The Shield Maidens Kickstarter is now live:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1990654819/shield-maidens-a-new-viking-cyberpunk-tabletop-rpg

Matt,

I've been playing Traveller off-and-on since 1981. Mongoose is doing some excellent work. Especially Pirates of Drinax.
I have no interest in Shield Maidens, but good luck on the Kickstarter.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan on April 01, 2022, 08:57:51 AM
I realize this is technically off topic but it needs to be addressed.

It doesn't matter if the action was taken by a volunteer, because you're the one who gave them the authority to make that call. It doesn't matter if they otherwise 'like' this poster's posts, only that the rules were not applied consistently. And I hate to say given current year and what I know about the author the question was not entirely unwarranted.

Well technically, the thread was deleted. And a whole new thread was posted to start from. Otherwise, the thread would still have it's original post date.

Looks like it is playing with the ideas in Lords of Light or Creatures of Light & Darkness only with norse myth. There was a video game called Too Human that sort of took the same tack, trying to do a lot of strange world building over the skeletal support of a more familiar subject.

Quote from: palaeomerus on April 01, 2022, 04:55:32 PM
Looks like it is playing with the ideas in Lords of Light or Creatures of Light & Darkness only with norse myth. There was a video game called Too Human that sort of took the same tack, trying to do a lot of strange world building over the skeletal support of a more familiar subject.

that game was amazing by Dennis Dyack.  Very sorry the subsequent sequels were never made as the lore was amazing.

/tangent

Having men as "allies" to the Shield Maidens?  Why in the world would you use that word?

Quote from: THE_Leopold on April 01, 2022, 06:22:22 PM
Having men as "allies" to the Shield Maidens?  Why in the world would you use that word?

One of the stretch goals should allow buyers to choose the pronouns for Odin.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll on April 01, 2022, 06:55:49 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on April 01, 2022, 06:22:22 PM
Having men as "allies" to the Shield Maidens?  Why in the world would you use that word?

One of the stretch goals should allow buyers to choose the pronouns for Odin.

Well, you've already given them the stretch goal of Free Publicity for what you hate, you easily manipulated wonk.

Quote from: jeff37923 on April 01, 2022, 07:01:08 PM

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll on April 01, 2022, 06:55:49 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on April 01, 2022, 06:22:22 PM
Having men as "allies" to the Shield Maidens?  Why in the world would you use that word?

One of the stretch goals should allow buyers to choose the pronouns for Odin.

Well, you've already given them the stretch goal of Free Publicity for what you hate, you easily manipulated wonk.

That would require people to back it and fund it. Matt posted the link and asked us to take a look at it, I obliged and realized it's not for me as the red flags are all there for another Thirsty Sword Lesbian book written by someone that hates me for who I do/do not sleep with at night.

Quote from: THE_Leopold on April 01, 2022, 07:10:23 PM

Quote from: jeff37923 on April 01, 2022, 07:01:08 PM

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll on April 01, 2022, 06:55:49 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on April 01, 2022, 06:22:22 PM
Having men as "allies" to the Shield Maidens?  Why in the world would you use that word?

One of the stretch goals should allow buyers to choose the pronouns for Odin.

Well, you've already given them the stretch goal of Free Publicity for what you hate, you easily manipulated wonk.

That would require people to back it and fund it. Matt posted the link and asked us to take a look at it, I obliged and realized it's not for me as the red flags are all there for another Thirsty Sword Lesbian book written by someone that hates me for who I do/do not sleep with at night.

The game isn't for me, either. So I'm not giving Mongoose any Kickstarter money for it. Simple. You just don't support what you don't like.

I doubt it is another outrage marketing "let's piss off the breeders" attempt like Thirsty Sword Lesbians was.