Quote from: BedrockBrendan;545338Keep in mind it is a forum and reactions are often stronger than they would be in real life.

I know we have butted heads on this thread but I welcome all playstyles to my table. Obviously if four players want no grid and one wants the grid, i will run a no grid game. But i adapt myself to the players at the table and see no reason why my group wouln't welcome you.

I'm impressed that you'd make the offer, but it wouldn't work out. I'd be bored silly and could add nothing to your game.

Quote from: gleichman;545388i'd be bored silly and could add nothing to your game.

You are as ants to the floating space brain!  Hyper-evolution prevents me speaking your backward monkey-tongue - i am beaming pure Euclid directly into your mindhole!

Quote from: gleichman;545036A reminder, it a was an outgrowth of advantage/disadvantage and it's described GM fiat style in where and how the rule was to be applied.

I saw a correlation between the people who liked that method and people I previously noted disliked maps and minis. I'm exploring if the reason is similar for both.

So far, they are nearly identical.

People prefer advantage/disadvantage because they play online frequently? Or don't want to lug minis to other peoples' houses?

Neither of these things seems likely to me.

Quote from: VectorSigma;545350Is this because you presume nobody can adapt to your 'sandtable' style, or because you're under the impression that everyone on this board is an ignorant no-fun ass?.

Mostly because they play games that don't enjoy (D&D in it's various favors for example) and don't play the games I do (HERO System, Age of Heroes).

To a lesser extent, the majority here have a completely alien approach to gaming that I've never encountered in real life despite playing with hundreds of players across three states. That approach is as completely uninteresting to me as mine is to them.

And yes, I think nearly everyone here "is an ignorant no-fun ass" to use your words. They are exceptions of course, but they typically fall into the first two groups.


I think even John Morrow (to name one of the few posters here I respect) and I would have a difficult time at each others tables. It would be better for us to hit a Chili's or something and talk gaming than attempt to play it I think.

Quote from: jeff37923;545354I have to ask, do you even have fun when you play a tabletop RPG anymore?

Of course. Our gaming schedule is only bi-weekly due to real life, but each game is a blast.

It's very easy to find people who play as a I do. And easy to steal the common D&D player and convert him. People in the real world are nothing like the people I've encountered on this board.

Quote from: beejazz;545391People prefer advantage/disadvantage because they play online frequently? Or don't want to lug minis to other peoples' houses?

Neither of these things seems likely to me.

I see you haven't been reading my posts and have taken a reply out of context.

Common.

Quote from: gleichman;545392To a lesser extent, the majority here have a completely alien approach to gaming that I've never encountered in real life despite playing with hundreds of players across three states. That approach is as completely uninteresting to me as mine is to them.

And yes, I think nearly everyone here "is an ignorant no-fun ass" to use your words. They are exceptions of course, but they typically fall into the first two groups.


I think even John Morrow (to name one of the few posters here I respect) and I would have a difficult time at each others tables. It would be better for us to hit a Chili's or something and talk gaming than attempt to play it I think.

Isn't that what a forum is?  I mean, more analogous to sitting around the Chili's talking about games?  And yet there's strife with the attitude.

If you really believe you're tilting at windmills around here, that's all well and good, I suppose.

Quote from: gleichman;545393Of course. Our gaming schedule is only bi-weekly due to real life, but each game is a blast.

I hear you. This is why i am in multiple groups (most folk i know can only game once or twice a month. That way i get my weekly fix.

QuoteIt's very easy to find people who play as a I do. And easy to steal the common D&D player and convert him. People in the real world are nothing like the people I've encountered on this board.

gleichman i dont believe I have ever met a gamer like you in real life, but i have met many mistguignols,Sigmunds, benoists, pundits and morrows.

Quote from: gleichman;545394I see you haven't been reading my posts and have taken a reply out of context.

Common.

I think you may have just forgotten what you actually said. Or what people who play without minis said in the conversation you were referring to. Or both.

I think I'd love to play some 40k or Chess against Gleichman, but agree we'd be ready to dance the knives if we tried Role-Playing together.

Quote from: VectorSigma;545395Isn't that what a forum is?  I mean, more analogous to sitting around the Chili's talking about games?  And yet there's strife with the attitude.

Not really, few strangers show up at your tables at Chili's and insult you.

Basically in this thread there are few people that I'd invite to Chili's (John Morrow, Elliot Wilen, Sean ! and few others- maybe even BedrockBrendan) but a lot I would not (Sigmund, Benoists, Pundit, etc).

Quote from: VectorSigma;545395If you really believe you're tilting at windmills around here, that's all well and good, I suppose.

It's a bit like visiting the zoo every few years. See the new critters and trends, touch base with a few old friends that hang out there, and tilt at windmills.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;545398gleichman i dont believe I have ever met a gamer like you in real life, but i have met many mistguignols,Sigmunds, benoists, pundits and morrows.

People with my gaming style rarely post online IMO. In the dozens of people who played in and enjoyed my games- I'm the only one that does. And over the years, I've only met a handful online who actually understand my style of play.

As John Morrow said years ago in rec.games.frp.advocacy (paraphrasing and using an old Threefold term), "Gamists seem to be playing games, not talking about them online."


In my case, I pick up the online habit pre-web internet as a techie, and it carried over.

Quote from: beejazz;545400I think you may have just forgotten what you actually said. Or what people who play without minis said in the conversation you were referring to. Or both.

Nope.

I remember clearly.

Quote from: gleichman;545405It's a bit like visiting the zoo every few years. See the new critters and trends, touch base with a few old friends that hang out there, and tilt at windmills.

And, apparently, waggle your thumbs at the big cats and shout "You haven't got 'em, dumbass!", then feel really good about yourself.

Quote from: gleichman;545405Not really, few strangers show up at your tables at Chili's and insult you.

If you're sitting in a booth with a sign that reads "You are all ignorant no-fun asses", you shouldn't be surprised you get a few "FU's" thrown your way.

At least, I don't remember calling out your play style as childish, immature, and the mark of an inferior intellect.

I think your play style is perfectly valid, even if it differs from my own. I think your attitude is the problem. It's needlessly confrontational.