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Supers - Or i Can't Believe It's Not British

Started by One Horse Town, July 27, 2011, 07:56:48 PM

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Quote from: RPGPundit;471140On the other hand, Colin Baker for whatever reason had the best comics made of his doctor out of any of them, the Voyager saga.  

Also, he had the best comic-book companion; Frobisher.  I mean really, was there any other comics-only companion that was even vaguely memorable (in the sense that you'd actually want to remember them) other than Frobisher? I think not.

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Alan Moore's work says otherwise.
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So basically, you twats think that a mythical thief, 3 comedians on a bike, a Mary Sue detective, and a space hobo are British super heroes.

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Quote from: One Horse Town;471228So basically, you twats think that a mythical thief, 3 comedians on a bike, a Mary Sue detective, and a space hobo are British super heroes.

Well one of the trouble is that a bunch of Briish Superheroes have been set in America, Judge Dredd, Marshall Law, A host of stuff Moore and the rest write.

The Original Captain Britain was very British. He had mystic Arthurian origins and everything. Then the Excalibur team was basically the Briitsh Avengers.

More recently you would have to say that British Heroes like the Invisibles, John Constantine and Luther Arkwright (though to be fair to say his is recent is a stretch) focus on the mystic rather than the more scientific american angle and they don;t co in for the standard spandex costumes.

So if you had to list out some of the characteristics of the British superhero I would say
  • Mystic over scientific - you don't get radioactive bugs, or super serums, and even Union Jack had a silver dagger for slaying vampires
  • Generally the hero amongst us - they are more clandestine and they don;t wear neon orange jump suits
  • Cynical
  • Strong anarchist tendencies - even Arkwright who works for the government is pretty anarchic

Now a lot of that is going to be about where comics came from in the UK and who as a result is writing them. Because more adult British comics grew up during the miserable depressing 1970s and were forged in the thatcherite era the authors have pretty distopic views, comic writers in the UK are pretty much left wing reactionaries where they examin the hero myth it's looking for the cracks and they have our Inferiority complex to the US and our rejection of that 4 colour world that The 1950s US comics kind of epitomise.
Compare Skizz to ET. In ET the government are really okay and are just trying to help, yes they are gauch and heavy handed but not evil, in Skizz they want to catch the alien and dissect it.
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Quote from: One Horse Town;471228So basically, you twats think that a mythical thief, 3 comedians on a bike, a Mary Sue detective, and a space hobo are British super heroes.

Not me boss.
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Quote from: One Horse Town;471228So basically, you twats think that a mythical thief, 3 comedians on a bike, a Mary Sue detective, and a space hobo are British super heroes.

The Space Hobo has every element of a "superhero" to him, yes. If the Doctor isn't a superhero, then I'd think that Tony Stark isn't either. He's missing precisely ONE element that is usually absolutely necessary to the "superhero" conception, which is a spandex uniform. He has everything else; and he spends his time fighting villains, stopping evil, and righting wrongs.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;471556which is a spandex uniform.

We'll get one eventually: Probably the first female Doctor for sheer fan service!
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Quote from: Ghost Whistler;471167Alan Moore's work says otherwise.

I quite liked Alan Moore's comics on the origins of the Time Lords and all that, but it didn't really seem to be all that "Doctor Who".  It was kickass sci-fi, but it wasn't as great a Doctor Who story as the Colin Baker-era comics were.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;471708I quite liked Alan Moore's comics on the origins of the Time Lords and all that, but it didn't really seem to be all that "Doctor Who".  It was kickass sci-fi, but it wasn't as great a Doctor Who story as the Colin Baker-era comics were.

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Quote from: jibbajibba;471716How do you feel about Abslom Daak ?

The Dalek-killer is pretty awesome, but again, kind of tangential to the Doctor Who concept.. its almost like an alternate-universe sort of thing, not entirely in following with some of the standard tropes of Doctor Who.

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I knew there was some Brit superhero lurking in the back of my brain, and I've finally recalled him - Garth!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garth_(comic_strip)

Found as a baby, raised by foster parents in an out of the way place - so far, so Superman.

Then he joins the Royal Navy, finally gets an origin/background (half human, half alien), and then travels time and space fighting evil (umm...)

The strip ran for years in the British newspaper the Daily Mirror, which is where I read it, as a kid. It confused the hell out of me!

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