Quote from: GrognardFightingMan;946235Boy, if you don't believe this old grognard, I've got proof.  Everybody finds it so damn hard to believe that Tracy the clean-cut Mormon would give cookies to a heavy, bearded Texan like me with a BO problem.  But like I said folks, sometimes guys get together and stuff happens. It don't make no one gay, let's be clear.  Tracy went home and barrelrolled Laura good. But you know, sometimes there's that special moment dudes share. And no one's got to know anything about it.

Hey boy, how about stop calling everyone boy? It's not working for you given you're not anywhere near above 20 and I'm just one of many women on this site. You bore me and are starting to piss me off. Hope you stick around enough to entertain me but that's up to you. Post something of value or just watch me disrespect you at every turn. This isn't TBP so I can and will give you the EXACT treatment you deserve if you insist on keeping the bullshit up.

Definitely not main forum material.

Also its dancing borderline in the slander zone.

Quote from: GrognardFightingMan;946235Boy, if you don't believe this old grognard, I've got proof.

Excellent! Provide your proof.

Quote from: Marleycat;946241and I'm just one of many women on this site.

She is! And we do have many female gamers who post and lurk here.

I think, at the very least, GrognardFightingMan's motives are questionable and the story is in bad taste. I'm not sure calling someone gay is slanderous in these progressive times.  But why tell this particular story here, and I would assume on rpgnet?  Why now?  If it had been Ed Greenwood and not Tracy Hickman I don't think anyone would bat an eye.  It's Hickman's professed faith that this story calls into question.  I realize that an electrician who worked at TSR isn't going to be a name people recognize but it's an embarrassing story told from a position of anonymity and that makes me wonder.

Quote from: David Johansen;946252I'm not sure calling someone gay is slanderous in these progressive times.

It's not the allegation of Hickman being gay that's slanderous.

GFM claims to (a) not be gay and (b) have engaged in sex with Tracy Hickman who is married.

Marriage is a legal contract with significant financial penalties for divorce.

Perhaps the story is true and Hickman's wife is aware and accepts this behavior.

Perhaps the story is true and Hickman's wife is not aware and would not accept this behavior.

Perhaps the story is false and Hickman's marriage would be affected by the public slander...

That's where I am seeing the issue. The sexual orientation of any of the parties is not the issue.

Quote from: David Johansen;946252I think, at the very least, GrognardFightingMan's motives are questionable and the story is in bad taste.

There's no "thinking" about the story being in bad taste. It's an objective fact.
And GFM said it himself: If it happens, it's something nobody knows about.
So how comes he's "coming out" with this on a public forum?

QuoteI'm not sure calling someone gay is slanderous in these progressive times.  But why tell this particular story here, and I would assume on rpgnet?  Why now?

I suspect this is why he (or his latest account) got permabanned.

QuoteIf it had been Ed Greenwood and not Tracy Hickman I don't think anyone would bat an eye.  It's Hickman's professed faith that this story calls into question.

In these times of controversies, anyone bats an eye at "people with religious convictions don't always follow on their letter"? Unless Mr. Hickman is an official in his Temple, I wouldn't bat an eye, either.

QuoteI realize that an electrician who worked at TSR isn't going to be a name people recognize but it's an embarrassing story told from a position of anonymity and that makes me wonder.

Makes us wonder.

Quote from: Spinachcat;946255It's not the allegation of Hickman being gay that's slanderous.

GFM claims to (a) not be gay and (b) have engaged in sex with Tracy Hickman who is married.

Marriage is a legal contract with significant financial penalties for divorce.

Perhaps the story is true and Hickman's wife is aware and accepts this behavior.

Perhaps the story is true and Hickman's wife is not aware and would not accept this behavior.

Perhaps the story is false and Hickman's marriage would be affected by the public slander...

That's where I am seeing the issue. The sexual orientation of any of the parties is not the issue.

Obviously GFM wouldn't be gay, if he's had relationships with women, too (something we assume to be true in the case of Mr. Hickman, because we know he's married - but we know nothing about GFM). He would be bi or bi-curious, not gay;).

And personally, I think the most likely effect would be "the story is false and Hickman's wife wouldn't care about what happened over 30 years ago even if she would ever hear about it, which she probably won't"!

And yes, I also think that has nothing to do with gaming, except they played a game before going out and getting wasted (and supposedly getting boners, too). But I'm not a mod.

I never thought for the tiniest moment it was true, I thought the poster was making an incredibly lame attempt at humor.

And brother, when I call your humor lame, you are in ROUGH shape.

Yeah, that anyone took it remotely seriously is rather mystifying.

This is one of the funniest things I've read for a while.

Quote from: Marleycat;946241Hey boy, how about stop calling everyone boy? It's not working for you given you're not anywhere near above 20 and I'm just one of many women on this site. You bore me and are starting to piss me off. Hope you stick around enough to entertain me but that's up to you. Post something of value or just watch me disrespect you at every turn. This isn't TBP so I can and will give you the EXACT treatment you deserve if you insist on keeping the bullshit up.

Reactions like this will encourage more of the same type of drivel. Please stop feeding the trolls and and have a nice day. :cool:

Let's just say it's a sensitive enough thing that I chose my words carefully.