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Looks like they will expunge D&D's naga, rakshasa, totems, tribes...

Started by Shipyard Locked, November 03, 2023, 11:30:49 PM

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Shipyard Locked

November 03, 2023, 11:30:49 PM
Judging by this article about Magic: The Gathering's upcoming 'sensitivity' changes, D&D will soon see similar revisions to it's established interpretations of naga and rakshasas, assuming they don't get deleted entirely:

https://archive.ph/Ck9Ym

We can also probably expect all references to totems and tribes to evaporate along with shamanism, replaced with god-knows-what rootless, weightless, soulless, marketing-approved terms (Baatezu and Tanar'ri anyone?). We can further surmise that ANY monster that comes from anything other than European sources will be taboo soon as well. Heck, I can easily imagine several European monsters being axed for being proto-Nazi propaganda if you squint at them right.

I'm getting such strong "New Coke" vibes from all this performative mental hygiene, but I wish I could be sure the public will recognize the corn-syrup slop that's about to hit their troughs.

Ratman_tf

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November 03, 2023, 11:35:06 PM Last Edit: November 03, 2023, 11:38:33 PM by Ratman_tf
I am completely clueless on the issue with the term Naga. Are they having issue with fantasy creatures from any ethnicity besides whiteys?
A google search seems to indicate that they are folding keywords into other categories.
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Aglondir

#2
November 03, 2023, 11:51:13 PM
Naga, naga, naganamatta because I'm naganabuyit

Jam The MF

#3
November 04, 2023, 12:58:27 AM
Quote from: Aglondir on November 03, 2023, 11:51:13 PM
Naga, naga, naganamatta because I'm naganabuyit

Well played.
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Jam The MF

#4
November 04, 2023, 01:06:58 AM
It's like WOTC is running straight into Boring Blandness, as fast as possible.

Queue the popcorn!!!
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Lunamancer

#5
November 04, 2023, 02:17:30 AM
Rakshasa has long been a favorite of furry-adjacent weirdo gamers, remarkably surviving the fatwa against smoking.
That's my two cents anyway. Carry on, crawler.

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I

#6
November 04, 2023, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on November 03, 2023, 11:35:06 PM
I am completely clueless on the issue with the term Naga.

Sounds too much like the "N-word."

BadApple

#7
November 04, 2023, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: I on November 04, 2023, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on November 03, 2023, 11:35:06 PM
I am completely clueless on the issue with the term Naga.

Sounds too much like the "N-word."

Fucking idiots.  Naga is a SE Asian word for cobra.  Also, in Sanskrit, it's a type of mythological creature.
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Krazz

#8
November 04, 2023, 02:04:11 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on November 03, 2023, 11:35:06 PM
I am completely clueless on the issue with the term Naga. Are they having issue with fantasy creatures from any ethnicity besides whiteys?
A google search seems to indicate that they are folding keywords into other categories.

Maybe they see it as cultural appropriation by a Western company. Presumably, the end game is to only have European folklore in it, so that the woke can complain that that is problematic too.
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I

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November 04, 2023, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: BadApple on November 04, 2023, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: I on November 04, 2023, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on November 03, 2023, 11:35:06 PM
I am completely clueless on the issue with the term Naga.

Sounds too much like the "N-word."

Fucking idiots.  Naga is a SE Asian word for cobra.  Also, in Sanskrit, it's a type of mythological creature.

LOL.  I don't know if that's the real reason, but it wouldn't surprise me.  Remember the hullabaloo a few years ago when some guy said "niggardly" in a public meeting and the SJWs went apeshit?  It didn't matter that it's derived from an Old Norse word meaning "stingy,"  (and that's the context in which it was used)  it might hurt some ignorant dumbass' feelings so we shouldn't say it.  There were jokes at the time about how we shouldn't use phrases like "a chink in the armor" or "spic and span" either.  Witness the multi-page encounter session re the word "minstrel" over on TBP for a similar example.

Ratman_tf

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November 04, 2023, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: I on November 04, 2023, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on November 03, 2023, 11:35:06 PM
I am completely clueless on the issue with the term Naga.

Sounds too much like the "N-word."

Naga, please!
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Exploderwizard

#11
November 04, 2023, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on November 04, 2023, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: I on November 04, 2023, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on November 03, 2023, 11:35:06 PM
I am completely clueless on the issue with the term Naga.

Sounds too much like the "N-word."

Naga, please!

I know right? Damn naga stole my bike!
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#12
November 04, 2023, 05:52:42 PM
Quote from: Jam The MF on November 04, 2023, 01:06:58 AM
It's like WOTC is running straight into Boring Blandness, as fast as possible.

Excellent.

The best thing for the hobby (not industry) is for WotC to run even faster into the loving woke arms of brand suicide.

Skullking

#13
November 04, 2023, 05:55:06 PM
Fingers crossed they have a marketing campaign featuring Dylan Mulvaney.

honeydipperdavid

#14
November 04, 2023, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: Skullking on November 04, 2023, 05:55:06 PM
Fingers crossed they have a marketing campaign featuring Dylan Mulvaney.

They'll have Dylan McVeiny DM'ing a game of D&D with four 12 year old thai lady bois.  I'm half joking, but I could see some derivation of that degeneracy in a WotC Twitter campaign.
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