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Looking back at the d20 boom...

Started by Piestrio, June 30, 2012, 05:32:44 AM

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Bloody Stupid Johnson

#105
July 08, 2012, 09:12:09 PM
Completely not a d20 game, but I think you can trace at least some of Savage Worlds' ancestry back to the d20 system so perhaps I should be grateful to d20 for that.

daniel_ream

#106
July 08, 2012, 10:16:22 PM
Quote from: Machinegun Blue;557964I'm drawing a blank. Well, there was a book all about running a game in the "On Stranger Tides" vein (you know, golden age piracy with magic and the supernatural). I can't think of the title.

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VectorSigma

#107
July 08, 2012, 10:52:18 PM
You guys realize at this point somebody has mentioned pretty much everything except Quintessentials, some of the AEG stuff, and those historicals with the cheesecake covers, right?
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Piestrio

#108
July 08, 2012, 11:13:46 PM
Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;557920I liked the *idea* of True20 better than I liked the actual play experience, for some reason.

Same here.
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jeff37923

#109
July 09, 2012, 12:14:03 AM
Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;557920I liked the *idea* of True20 better than I liked the actual play experience, for some reason.

Quote from: Piestrio;557997Same here.

Ditto.

I know that I hated the wealth mechanic. It just didn't appeal to me at all.
"Meh."

Piestrio

#110
July 09, 2012, 01:04:44 AM
Quote from: jeff37923;558021Ditto.

I know that I hated the wealth mechanic. It just didn't appeal to me at all.

It was espesially I'll suited to the type of D&D fantasy I used it for.

"You open the chest and find a pile of glittering gold"

"ooo...How much?"

"uhhhhh... Some. +1, whatever"

Oddly we missed "counting coppers".
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Marleycat

#111
July 09, 2012, 02:24:54 AM
Quote from: Piestrio;558065It was espesially I'll suited to the type of D&D fantasy I used it for.

"You open the chest and find a pile of glittering gold"

"ooo...How much?"

"uhhhhh... Some. +1, whatever"

Oddly we missed "counting coppers".

WBL, hands down is/was the worst idea right behind 4e's bullshit of player wishlists.
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RPGPundit

#112
July 09, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;557858Blue Rose? You have hated the magic deer infested thing for awhile now. What gives?

The setting was shit.  But the system, divorced from the setting (which fortunately was ridiculously easy to do), was really great.

I ran a Blue Rose campaign (not True20, this was before we managed to get Green Ronin to release a true20 game), set in a very altered version of the "fighting fantasy" pirate city of Port Blacksand, that was really one of the most successful fantasy campaigns I've run.  On that note alone I'm obliged to include it on this list.

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#113
July 15, 2012, 05:18:55 PM Last Edit: July 15, 2012, 06:25:38 PM by Philotomy Jurament
Just thought of another d20 product that I thought was really cool.  I didn't think of it the first time because I never actually got to play it.  Anyway, it's Northern Crown.

Still think it's pretty cool, although I'm unlikely to run it with d20; using BRP seems more appealing.

EDIT:  Whoops, just saw that it was previously mentioned, up-thread.
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Piestrio

#114
July 15, 2012, 11:44:52 PM
Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;560463Just thought of another d20 product that I thought was really cool.  I didn't think of it the first time because I never actually got to play it.  Anyway, it's Northern Crown.

Still think it's pretty cool, although I'm unlikely to run it with d20; using BRP seems more appealing.

EDIT:  Whoops, just saw that it was previously mentioned, up-thread.

 Liked Northern Crown as well and was disappointed they didn't get to make the South American version.

On that note anyone ever used the Nyambi: Africian Adventures book?
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Skywalker

#115
July 15, 2012, 11:54:20 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;558081WBL, hands down is/was the worst idea right behind 4e's bullshit of player wishlists.

Aren't those two different concepts? I am not sure how you make Wealth mechanics and Wishlists equate?

Marleycat

#116
July 16, 2012, 10:56:39 AM
Quote from: Skywalker;560570Aren't those two different concepts? I am not sure how you make Wealth mechanics and Wishlists equate?

They don't. They are the TWO worst ideas ever. Sorry I wasn't clearer.
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kythri

#117
July 16, 2012, 11:34:26 AM
What makes WBL a bad idea?

Marleycat

#118
July 16, 2012, 12:50:55 PM
Quote from: kythri;560687What makes WBL a bad idea?

It straightjackets the DM while at the same time engenders player entitlement. Very bad mix.
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Patrick

#119
July 16, 2012, 03:55:40 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;557279A huge part of what is bad about it is that it was literally an attempt to "teach gamma world fans a lesson" from someone who hated the idea of a fun gonzo post-apoc game.  But of course, the result of that "lesson" is that the game itself would suck ass even if it wasn't named "gamma world".  Its a preachy pretentious piece of bullshit about environmentalism, "society", and goes on and on with boring drudgery and pseudo-intellectualism in the place of anything resembling an actual fun game.

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Wasn't it also the version that spent many, many pages telling you what a "forest" or a "plain" was?  Such a sad, absolutely disappointing version of one of my favorite games.  Tetsubo is right, though, the Mutant Epoch is pretty great.  His YouTube review convinced me to buy it.
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