and not a great cartographer of dungeons (although that's mostly due to me being lazy).

I need a medium-sized city map, NOT one crisscrossed with canals, not one on a lake or any other body of water...just a large town or medium city.  

Everything I've found courtesy of ze googlez is port this or rivertown that or the other.

A little help here?

I don't really bother with maps much anymore, except for large scale ones. Here's your problem, if you want to do up a big elaborate map of say a tavern you either need to cut it into pieces or have something to cover the bits the players haven't seen yet. And lets face it, most people are not going to have a millimeter-accurate mental map of any location they wander into.

I treat city maps the same way as spaceship maps, split it up into zones and cover encounters with descriptive prose. You really don't need precise measurements of every back alley, in fact in many ways that takes from a city's mystery. If needs be draw out a rough guide to what's around them, but fit the details into your description.

Believe me its not for lack of ability that I don't use detailed maps.

Just go to:

//www.cartographersguild.com

and poke around. This is THE best site for free maps and such on the net (and some of them will draw maps for you, most commissioned but some free).

I'm sure you'll find something.

Will this work?

Historic city maps.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;549249and not a great cartographer of dungeons (although that's mostly due to me being lazy).

I need a medium-sized city map, NOT one crisscrossed with canals, not one on a lake or any other body of water...just a large town or medium city.  

Everything I've found courtesy of ze googlez is port this or rivertown that or the other.

Be prepared that your players will point out the very reason why you can't find such maps easily: "With so many people in one place, where do they get water from?"

Quote from: Thalaba;549255Will this work?

Love it; got a bigger copy of it?

Quote from: Premier;549261Be prepared that your players will point out the very reason why you can't find such maps easily: "With so many people in one place, where do they get water from?"

Town is on an artesian aquifer.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;549263Love it; got a bigger copy of it?

No. It's not mine; I found it on the web by looking for Shibam (an old city in Yemen). There's a B&W plan on this page, along with several building floorplans and some elevations. If you hunt around you might find something bigger.

Quote from: Black Vulmea;549258Historic city maps.

:jaw-dropping:

I so have to raid your bookmarks one of these days.

Here's a version of Cillamar, the small city we did for Castle Whiterock.  

Original:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kensanata/2231009632/sizes/l/

Rendered:
http://www.goodman-games.com/images/DCC51-2.jpg

//H

Quote from: Harley Stroh;549287Here's a version of Cillamar, the small city we did for Castle Whiterock.  

Original:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kensanata/2231009632/sizes/l/

Rendered:
http://www.goodman-games.com/images/DCC51-2.jpg

//H

No lie, not two minutes before I logged back in to the forum I was looking at DCC modules and saw one done by you, prior to knowing you'd posted anything here.

Trippy!

Thanks for the map.

Harley, what are the chances of getting the Gazetteer and Castle Whiterock updated for DCCRPG?  

Gaz, likely, in some form or another.

Whiterock ... that thing is massive, and a DCC RPG reboot would be a major undertaking.

But, tell Joseph you want it, and who knows?

//H

I got the Castle Whiterock boxed set. It is really good. Great setting for a mega-dungeon campaign.