Cleaning out my garage, and I found an old folder I forgot about for year. Inside? Two of my old characters. Merdock was my longest running character. He's level 9, so I guess this was around mid 80s at the time. Justicar was with 2e S&P, and I'm pretty sure he was in 97 when I was stationed in Germany.
Interesting how my handwriting changed so much in 10 years, and how much more complex the characters became.
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g141/rajzwaibel/merdock_zps5823209c.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g141/rajzwaibel/justicarp1_zps677907ad.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g141/rajzwaibel/justicalp2_zps0178a1e7.jpg)
Nice!
Any tales from their adventures you'd care to share?
Always neat too see just how different the numbers were back in the day and how the characters remained fun and playable anyway.
Quote from: thedungeondelver;680142Nice!
Any tales from their adventures you'd care to share?
I hardly played Justicar, which was a shame because I really liked the concept of an unarmored Paladin whose penance was to endure physical suffering while protecting his allies. I normally don't like S&P, but it was great in creating an archetype like this by giving up the ability to wear heavy armor in place of additional hit points.
With Merdock? Oh gosh....hard to nail down. That was about 30 years ago in his heyday. I know at some point by the time he reached level 14 (when he retired), he got a rod of lordly might. In one adventure rather early on in his career, he rescued the tribespeople form Isle of Dread and led them on a successful attack against the green dragon.
Really cool! These are always like a treasure trove of memory.
I might have some old sheets lying around; and the relative simplicity of pre 3x appeals a lot to me now.
Now I have to dig through my game stuff and see what old characters are lurking around :)
All of my really old stuff got lost when I moved to a new continent.
I see you were in a Monty Haul campaign. You're way overpowered for ninth level.
I've saved most of my character sheets -- they tend to be relatively memorable on account that I've GMed about ten times as often as I've been a player. This is my first character, Altasren of Vimlara, an Empire of the Petal Throne fighter from the 1970s:
This is a bit into his career, and he was 5th level and loaded down with all the loot a Monty Haul campaign can dish out. (It got so bad that not so long after this, we players got together and decided to give away everything except for three items apiece, just so we could get back to solving adventures with our wits and skills, as opposed to our toys)
Quote from: The_Rooster;681171I see you were in a Monty Haul campaign. You're way overpowered for ninth level.
That really depends on playstyle and the theme of a particular campaign.
I have dm'd and played in many games all over that spectrum. Some monty haul, some very spartan.
Quote from: Ravenswing;681189I've saved most of my character sheets -- they tend to be relatively memorable on account that I've GMed about ten times as often as I've been a player. This is my first character, Altasren of Vimlara, an Empire of the Petal Throne fighter from the 1970s:
This is a bit into his career, and he was 5th level and loaded down with all the loot a Monty Haul campaign can dish out. (It got so bad that not so long after this, we players got together and decided to give away everything except for three items apiece, just so we could get back to solving adventures with our wits and skills, as opposed to our toys)
Markers. Nice :)
Quote from: Bill;681218That really depends on playstyle and the theme of a particular campaign.
I have dm'd and played in many games all over that spectrum. Some monty haul, some very spartan.
Don't worry about it. Someone doesn't know anything about D&D. 9th level in AD&D was name level. That's when you start running a castle and territory as a fighter. And a half dozen or so magic items by then is not even close to Monty Haul. Perhaps he should look at some AD&D modules some time and see what magic items frequent them. Monty Haul would be if he had +5 armor, a vorpal sword, girdle of storm giant strength, etc.
No, he's just doing what he's been doing for the past several days: popping into threads and posting some stupid remark to get a rise out of people. Since everyone is ignoring him, he's throwing a fit and trying to troll. Just ignore him.
Quote from: Sacrosanct;681231No, he's just doing what he's been doing for the past several days: popping into threads and posting some stupid remark to get a rise out of people. Since everyone is ignoring him, he's throwing a fit and trying to troll. Just ignore him.
That's your hallmark. If you hate what someone is saying, they're automagically a troll and a horrible person.
Your 9th-level character has a crap-ton of items. My AD&D games we wouldn't have had even half of that.
Stop assuming you're right in everything and that your way is the only way. To me, your character is in a Monty Haul campaign. Live with my opinion instead of dismissing it as trolling just because you don't like it.
All of you fail your Spot checks to notice the obvious discrepancy that this is a forged AD&D character sheet:
NO TEN FOOT POLE.
Very cool. And no, these characters are not especially powerful for name level.
Anyone who's actually played the game from level 1 through 9th would tell you that. It all depends on what happens during the character's adventures. The way these are built compared to the "modern" mindset of "encounter/gear appropriate" content uses a different type of logic in their set-up and organization, dependent in big part on the players' cleverness in finding out/unearthing/getting to treasure, mostly. The not-so-clever but lucky characters might get to level 9 (though the odds are fairly minimal if the DM ain't fudging rolls along the way), but with a mediocre gear. Others will make it, find out hidden parts of the dungeon, be really clever and obtain items that were really well guarded/hidden/otherwise being challenges, and get away with it. That's the way the game's supposed to function. The OD&D and first edition AD&D games, I mean.
Quote from: Benoist;681449The not-so-clever but lucky characters might get to level 9 (though the odds are fairly minimal if the DM ain't fudging rolls along the way), but with a mediocre gear.
It's always a dig from a position of elitist superiority with you people. "If you didn't play the way I played, you were a BAD PLAYER!"
And yet I'm the one accused of trolling.
Quote from: The_Rooster;681454It's always a dig from a position of elitist superiority with you people. "If you didn't play the way I played, you were a BAD PLAYER!"
And yet I'm the one accused of trolling.
Lay off the glue, please.
Quote from: Rincewind1;681444All of you fail your Spot checks to notice the obvious discrepancy that this is a forged AD&D character sheet:
NO TEN FOOT POLE.
Haha. Got me. I'm a failure of an AD&D player ;)
Quote from: Benoist;681449Very cool. And no, these characters are not especially powerful for name level.
Anyone who's actually played the game from level 1 through 9th would tell you that. It all depends on what happens during the character's adventures. The way these are built compared to the "modern" mindset of "encounter/gear appropriate" content uses a different type of logic in their set-up and organization, dependent in big part on the players' cleverness in finding out/unearthing/getting to treasure, mostly. The not-so-clever but lucky characters might get to level 9 (though the odds are fairly minimal if the DM ain't fudging rolls along the way), but with a mediocre gear. Others will make it, find out hidden parts of the dungeon, be really clever and obtain items that were really well guarded/hidden/otherwise being challenges, and get away with it. That's the way the game's supposed to function. The OD&D and first edition AD&D games, I mean.
None of those items were unusual to find in published adventures for that level. Just go look at some of the stuff in G1-3. Also, it should be noted that most of your XP was from treasure. Look at those XP points. That was a LOT of treasure to get that far if you figure 75% of total XP was from gold XP.
Quote from: The_Rooster;681454It's always a dig from a position of elitist superiority with you people. "If you didn't play the way I played, you were a BAD PLAYER!"
Ignorant people often claim others are being "elitists" when they are shown to be wrong in their base assumptions.
Quote from: Sacrosanct;681463None of those items were unusual to find in published adventures for that level. Just go look at some of the stuff in G1-3. Also, it should be noted that most of your XP was from treasure. Look at those XP points. That was a LOT of treasure to get that far if you figure 75% of total XP was from gold XP.
Figures may vary (I'd say treasure counts for about 2/3 or 66% in my games, playing by the book, or close to it, in regards to treasure allotments etc.), but yes, I agree on the principle, absolutely.
Quote from: Benoist;681487Ignorant people often claim others are being "elitists" when they are shown to be wrong in their base assumptions.
Again, you're saying I'm playing the game wrong. How is that anything but elitist?
To me, his character has more items and more powerful items than I was used to in any AD&D (yes, 1e) game that I ever played in. You yourself said there were no charts to base appropriate amounts of items given per level and then in the same breath you say he's doing it right and everyone else who doesn't do it like that is an idiot who isn't clever enough to find better loot.
Hate to break this to you, but lots of people play D&D differently to you and that's not a bad thing.
Quote from: The_Rooster;681490Again, you're saying I'm playing the game wrong.
Actually, no. I'm saying that when YOU are engaging the thread to TELL OTHERS that their characters are "overpowered" like you know what the baseline of the game you are talking about actually is, and what its base assumptions are, you are wrong.
You playing your game however you want has fuck all to do with the actual point, and rest assured: I'm not the gaming police, anyway.
Now, are you done being an asshole, or are you going to go on for another round?
Quote from: Benoist;681492Now, are you done being an asshole, or are you going to go on for another round?
Says the asshole.
Quote from: Benoist;681492Now, are you done being an asshole, or are you going to go on for another round?
Says the asshole.
Why don't you just admit it? You know what you're doing. Why defend it against the likes of me? Does my opinion of you matter so much to you that you can't own up to something as simple as elitism? Or are you really that lacking in self-awareness?
Quote from: The_Rooster;681498Says the asshole.
Why don't you just admit it? You know what you're doing. Why defend it against the likes of me? Does my opinion of you matter so much to you that you can't own up to something as simple as elitism? Or are you really that lacking in self-awareness?
Nice fishing, Kzach.
My characters at around 9th level had more items than that, though few of them were quite so conveniently class-focused. Specifically they'd collect quite a number of potions, more miscellaneous magic items, certainly a ring or two, and minor golf bags of various +1 weapons. This is just something you accrue on the way to 150,000 xp or so. Especially if you take a pass through a published module or two and experiment with turning gold for xp on and off again.
Monty Haul is when everyone's got vorpal swords and hammers of thunderbolts and AC -10, it's pretty obvious.
Quote from: Benoist;681505Nice fishing, Kzach.
Arrrrgghh! I'm melting, meeeeellllltiinnnggg!
Nice dodge, whoever you are.
I do not play DND the right way.
I refuse to have a 10' pole on my character sheet.
Crowbars are good though.
Quote from: Bill;681590I do not play DND the right way.
I refuse to have a 10' pole on my character sheet.
Crowbars are good though.
None of my characters have ever owned either. :o
(They've tended to have ropes and such though)
Quote from: Imp;681516My characters at around 9th level had more items than that, though few of them were quite so conveniently class-focused. Specifically they'd collect quite a number of potions, more miscellaneous magic items, certainly a ring or two, and minor golf bags of various +1 weapons. This is just something you accrue on the way to 150,000 xp or so. Especially if you take a pass through a published module or two and experiment with turning gold for xp on and off again.
Monty Haul is when everyone's got vorpal swords and hammers of thunderbolts and AC -10, it's pretty obvious.
IIRC, most of the lesser magic items we found went to either henchmen or was sold to help fund the castle I wanted to build. Looking the GP amount, and that's not very much for a level 9 character. So I'm sure the other sheet with his castle plans must have been made by that point and is lost somewhere.
A few months ago I came across some old AD&D and MERP character sheets. I ought to go find those again and see what they've got on them.
Quote from: Bill;681590I do not play DND the right way.
I refuse to have a 10' pole on my character sheet.
Crowbars are good though.
Heck, I'd always go with a carpenter's cat's claw. A full-sized crowbar is heavy and unwieldy, and it doesn't fit easily in a backpack. A cat's claw is about a foot long, and that's pretty much right.
My gaming circles always laughed at the notion of a 10' pole. Were they KIDDING? Just for the sake of argument, folks, go find a 10' length of PVC tubing. Try walking around with it for an hour. Now try walking with it indoors. Now get a group of a half-dozen people to do the same. Now hope that someone has a video camera handy, because you'd score a hundred thousand YouTube hits in a day with that comedy gold.
Quote from: The_Rooster;681498Why don't you just admit it? You know what you're doing. Why defend it against the likes of me? Does my opinion of you matter so much to you that you can't own up to something as simple as elitism? Or are you really that lacking in self-awareness?
Coming from the person who STARTED the "Our way must be the only right way things are done" business, this is pretty rich. Are you that much of a solipsist that the definition of objectionable behavior is "That which other people do?" Or ... are you really that lacking in self-awareness?
Quote from: The_Rooster;681533Arrrrgghh! I'm melting, meeeeellllltiinnnggg!
Nice dodge, whoever you are.
Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up.
Also, my buddy dug up some sheets from a campaign we played just a few years ago and I reflected fondly on the names...Poon Jab, Mert Furburglar, Double Deuce. There are some so terrible I can't even type them out.
Quote from: Brad;681630Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up.
Also, my buddy dug up some sheets from a campaign we played just a few years ago and I reflected fondly on the names...Poon Jab, Mert Furburglar, Double Deuce. There are some so terrible I can't even type them out.
Did you see the name of my fighter? Can you take one guess where I got it from?
Hint: This was in the 80s. :D
I'm going to have to see if I can dig out my old character archive from the 90's, would love to go back over my WoD & Cyberpunk 2020 characters from that time.
Also, remember the board has an ignore list function, I ignore listed Rooster for being a massive tool a while ago, it has made my experience much more enjoyable.
Quote from: Sacrosanct;681639Did you see the name of my fighter? Can you take one guess where I got it from?
Hint: This was in the 80s. :D
I couldn't read it too well. Merlock? Matlock?
Wait.... Did you get the name from Wizards and Warriors?
Quote from: flyerfan1991;681660I couldn't read it too well. Merlock? Matlock?
Wait.... Did you get the name from Wizards and Warriors?
(http://members.tripod.com/~GMC_VAN/pix/murdock1.jpg)
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Okay, I got it, even without your pic showing up. I should have guessed. ;-)
Quote from: Rincewind1;681444All of you fail your Spot checks to notice the obvious discrepancy that this is a forged AD&D character sheet:
NO TEN FOOT POLE.
He had what looks like fifty feet of rope though so that covers a multitude.
Anyway real D&D players would just throw the halfling in first and wait for the fireworks to die down. :D
I've some very yellowed character sheets hiding under a table somewhere, I must dig them out.
Quote from: The Traveller;681818He had what looks like fifty feet of rope though so that covers a multitude.
Anyway real D&D players would just throw the halfling in first and wait for the fireworks to die down. :D
Well, you got to tie the rope around the halfling before you throw him. Really, you want to be able to get your bait back. :D
That depends on if the halfling is Chaotic Neutral.