Long lost character sheets found!

Rincewind1 · August 14, 2013, 10:23:05 PM

Quote from: The_Rooster;681454It's always a dig from a position of elitist superiority with you people. "If you didn't play the way I played, you were a BAD PLAYER!"

And yet I'm the one accused of trolling.

Lay off the glue, please.

Sacrosanct · August 14, 2013, 10:31:18 PM

Quote from: Rincewind1;681444All of you fail your Spot checks to notice the obvious discrepancy that this is a forged AD&D character sheet:

NO TEN FOOT POLE.

Haha. Got me. I'm a failure of an AD&D player

Quote from: Benoist;681449Very cool. And no, these characters are not especially powerful for name level.

Anyone who's actually played the game from level 1 through 9th would tell you that. It all depends on what happens during the character's adventures. The way these are built compared to the "modern" mindset of "encounter/gear appropriate" content uses a different type of logic in their set-up and organization, dependent in big part on the players' cleverness in finding out/unearthing/getting to treasure, mostly. The not-so-clever but lucky characters might get to level 9 (though the odds are fairly minimal if the DM ain't fudging rolls along the way), but with a mediocre gear. Others will make it, find out hidden parts of the dungeon, be really clever and obtain items that were really well guarded/hidden/otherwise being challenges, and get away with it. That's the way the game's supposed to function. The OD&D and first edition AD&D games, I mean.

None of those items were unusual to find in published adventures for that level. Just go look at some of the stuff in G1-3. Also, it should be noted that most of your XP was from treasure. Look at those XP points. That was a LOT of treasure to get that far if you figure 75% of total XP was from gold XP.

Benoist · August 15, 2013, 12:41:20 AM

Quote from: The_Rooster;681454It's always a dig from a position of elitist superiority with you people. "If you didn't play the way I played, you were a BAD PLAYER!"

Ignorant people often claim others are being "elitists" when they are shown to be wrong in their base assumptions.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;681463None of those items were unusual to find in published adventures for that level. Just go look at some of the stuff in G1-3. Also, it should be noted that most of your XP was from treasure. Look at those XP points. That was a LOT of treasure to get that far if you figure 75% of total XP was from gold XP.

Figures may vary (I'd say treasure counts for about 2/3 or 66% in my games, playing by the book, or close to it, in regards to treasure allotments etc.), but yes, I agree on the principle, absolutely.

The_Rooster · August 15, 2013, 01:00:04 AM

Quote from: Benoist;681487Ignorant people often claim others are being "elitists" when they are shown to be wrong in their base assumptions.

Again, you're saying I'm playing the game wrong. How is that anything but elitist?

To me, his character has more items and more powerful items than I was used to in any AD&D (yes, 1e) game that I ever played in. You yourself said there were no charts to base appropriate amounts of items given per level and then in the same breath you say he's doing it right and everyone else who doesn't do it like that is an idiot who isn't clever enough to find better loot.

Hate to break this to you, but lots of people play D&D differently to you and that's not a bad thing.

Benoist · August 15, 2013, 01:06:34 AM

Quote from: The_Rooster;681490Again, you're saying I'm playing the game wrong.

Actually, no. I'm saying that when YOU are engaging the thread to TELL OTHERS that their characters are "overpowered" like you know what the baseline of the game you are talking about actually is, and what its base assumptions are, you are wrong.

You playing your game however you want has fuck all to do with the actual point, and rest assured: I'm not the gaming police, anyway.

Now, are you done being an asshole, or are you going to go on for another round?

The_Rooster · August 15, 2013, 01:40:42 AM

Quote from: Benoist;681492Now, are you done being an asshole, or are you going to go on for another round?

Says the asshole.

The_Rooster · August 15, 2013, 01:44:26 AM

Quote from: Benoist;681492Now, are you done being an asshole, or are you going to go on for another round?

Says the asshole.

Why don't you just admit it? You know what you're doing. Why defend it against the likes of me? Does my opinion of you matter so much to you that you can't own up to something as simple as elitism? Or are you really that lacking in self-awareness?

Benoist · August 15, 2013, 02:06:29 AM

Quote from: The_Rooster;681498Says the asshole.

Why don't you just admit it? You know what you're doing. Why defend it against the likes of me? Does my opinion of you matter so much to you that you can't own up to something as simple as elitism? Or are you really that lacking in self-awareness?

Nice fishing, Kzach.

Imp · August 15, 2013, 03:19:32 AM

My characters at around 9th level had more items than that, though few of them were quite so conveniently class-focused. Specifically they'd collect quite a number of potions, more miscellaneous magic items, certainly a ring or two, and minor golf bags of various +1 weapons. This is just something you accrue on the way to 150,000 xp or so. Especially if you take a pass through a published module or two and experiment with turning gold for xp on and off again.

Monty Haul is when everyone's got vorpal swords and hammers of thunderbolts and AC -10, it's pretty obvious.

The_Rooster · August 15, 2013, 04:37:24 AM

Quote from: Benoist;681505Nice fishing, Kzach.

Arrrrgghh! I'm melting, meeeeellllltiinnnggg!

Nice dodge, whoever you are.

Bill · August 15, 2013, 08:39:25 AM

I do not play DND the right way.

I refuse to have a 10' pole on my character sheet.

Crowbars are good though.

The Ent · August 15, 2013, 08:44:32 AM

Quote from: Bill;681590I do not play DND the right way.

I refuse to have a 10' pole on my character sheet.

Crowbars are good though.

None of my characters have ever owned either.

(They've tended to have ropes and such though)

Sacrosanct · August 15, 2013, 10:02:32 AM

Quote from: Imp;681516My characters at around 9th level had more items than that, though few of them were quite so conveniently class-focused. Specifically they'd collect quite a number of potions, more miscellaneous magic items, certainly a ring or two, and minor golf bags of various +1 weapons. This is just something you accrue on the way to 150,000 xp or so. Especially if you take a pass through a published module or two and experiment with turning gold for xp on and off again.

Monty Haul is when everyone's got vorpal swords and hammers of thunderbolts and AC -10, it's pretty obvious.

IIRC, most of the lesser magic items we found went to either henchmen or was sold to help fund the castle I wanted to build. Looking the GP amount, and that's not very much for a level 9 character. So I'm sure the other sheet with his castle plans must have been made by that point and is lost somewhere.

flyerfan1991 · August 15, 2013, 10:16:01 AM

A few months ago I came across some old AD&D and MERP character sheets. I ought to go find those again and see what they've got on them.

Ravenswing · August 15, 2013, 10:24:19 AM

Quote from: Bill;681590I do not play DND the right way.

I refuse to have a 10' pole on my character sheet.

Crowbars are good though.

Heck, I'd always go with a carpenter's cat's claw. A full-sized crowbar is heavy and unwieldy, and it doesn't fit easily in a backpack. A cat's claw is about a foot long, and that's pretty much right.

My gaming circles always laughed at the notion of a 10' pole. Were they KIDDING? Just for the sake of argument, folks, go find a 10' length of PVC tubing. Try walking around with it for an hour. Now try walking with it indoors. Now get a group of a half-dozen people to do the same. Now hope that someone has a video camera handy, because you'd score a hundred thousand YouTube hits in a day with that comedy gold.