The new Call of Cthulhu

Rincewind1 · June 05, 2013, 07:50:32 PM

Quote from: RandallS;660168After a couple of disasters trying adventures with a mystery in the 1970s, I started simply giving the party the (necessary to solve the mystery) clues if they interact with the location/person with the clue in any meaningful way. Note that they can sill miss such clues if they never interact with the location/person and neither the meaning of the clue nor the fact that something is a clue is necessarily obvious. I discovered being sure the party has access to all the clues needed to solve the mystery makes for far less frustration for both players and GM.

Some extra clues can be well-hidden and require great luck or skill to find -- these extra clues are typically "bigger" in that finding one provides a bigger piece of the puzzle in some way. But even if the party never finds one of the extra clues, the standard clues provide more than enough info for careful players to figure out the mystery.

When I looked at Gumshoe I was shocked that someone thought making sure the party has the clues was a major design insight.

Precisely my way, though I have reached it by combination of common sense, Gumshoe advice, practice, and talking about Gumshoe here

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Quote from: jdurall;660149Thanks!

I have two questions, if you're free to speak about such matters:

1) How easily those new narrative - storygaming mechanics can be removed, if someone desires? Will they be optional rules, so to speak, a part of toolkit approach?
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2) If I don't want those, what's else for me in new CoC?

RPGPundit · June 06, 2013, 02:59:42 AM

Quote from: Grey Wanderer;660135What's the point of this statement?

I'm getting the impression your not a "consultant" on RoR, but a "shill."

I'm an advocate, who is really behind the game, and hasn't hid the fact that he's a paid consultant.

On the other hand, since you got here, ALL of your posts have been to try to question or shoot down Raiders of R'lyeh... anything you want to confess? I mean, you showed up after the RoR announcement and your sole activity on the forum has been posts meant to express skepticism about the project; are you someone who has a beef with Quentin, or with me, or have you got some other kind of (financial?) stake in this?

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Jason D · June 06, 2013, 02:32:21 PM

Quote from: Rincewind1;660330I have two questions, if you're free to speak about such matters:

1) How easily those new narrative - storygaming mechanics can be removed, if someone desires? Will they be optional rules, so to speak, a part of toolkit approach?
and
2) If I don't want those, what's else for me in new CoC?

I'm not working on CoC 7th edition, nor was I consulted about it at any point. I was part of the first wave of the playtest, but didn't have time for more than a feedback email on the rules as written.

I suspect I'm still bound by the NDA to not discuss the playtest rules, so I can't comment on them, and I have no idea what the current state of the rules is.

Ladybird · June 06, 2013, 03:20:45 PM

Actually, y'know what, I'm not doing that.

The stretch goals have been really impressive for CoC7 - the books have been upgraded (Better paper, colour plates and art) along with a bunch of freebies like screen, adventures, rules guide bookmarks, and dice set. Shipping, though, is a complete clusterfuck.

Grey Wanderer · June 06, 2013, 11:46:39 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;660448I'm an advocate, who is really behind the game, and hasn't hid the fact that he's a paid consultant.

On the other hand, since you got here, ALL of your posts have been to try to question or shoot down Raiders of R'lyeh... anything you want to confess? I mean, you showed up after the RoR announcement and your sole activity on the forum has been posts meant to express skepticism about the project; are you someone who has a beef with Quentin, or with me, or have you got some other kind of (financial?) stake in this?

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None of the above. I've been lurking for a while, and just started chiming in recently. It was a coincidence that it happened around the same time as RoR was announced here.

I don't even know who this Quentin fellow is.

3rik · June 07, 2013, 09:53:32 AM

Quote from: Ladybird;660646(...) Shipping, though, is a complete clusterfuck.

Everything has been fixed and cleared up. Just refer to the table and you should be able to work out exactly what you get at which pledge level and also how much postage you're supposed to add.

Ladybird · June 07, 2013, 01:31:45 PM

Quote from: HombreLoboDomesticado;660878Everything has been fixed and cleared up. Just refer to the table and you should be able to work out exactly what you get at which pledge level and also how much postage you're supposed to add.

Yeah, it is now. Ten days in. They obviously knew how they wanted shipping to work when they put the pledge levels together; it's not unreasonable to think they might have put that information in the pledge level, eg. instead of "International orders please add $20 + $1 per physical item in the level for postage", instead put "International orders please add $22 for postage" for the tiers that included two physical books, and bump up the price of all items in the "curiosity shop" by $1 (To account for the shipping cost).

Bang, job done, simple and efficient.

3rik · June 07, 2013, 06:49:53 PM

Quote from: Ladybird;660947>snip< Bang, job done, simple and efficient.

Yeah, well, those were my thoughts exactly, but apparently there is some reason why they couldn't do it like that... or something... I forgot where I read it. Anyway, at least it's clear now.

Starglyte · June 07, 2013, 10:51:41 PM

I am really liking the new stretch goal of including a pdf that includes other eras.

Ladybird · June 11, 2013, 07:38:05 PM

In my response to the "colour?" questionnaire, I answered to just do it like the french book, because there are enough b&w BRP books out there already.