Quote from: rytrasmi on November 24, 2023, 01:56:13 PM

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Quote from: yosemitemike on November 21, 2023, 08:07:59 AM
Possum Creek Games should go in red.  Here's their mission statement.  It talks about the liminality of Queerness.
https://possumcreekgames.com/pages/mission-statement

... to ameliorate the fantasy of the game:

QuoteWhile our games might visit distant lands and traipse across the stars, they are always grounded...the liminality of queerness...

What the fuck is "liminality of queerness"? Are these people just stringing words together to sound cool?

And then there's this:

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Jay Dragon (no pronouns)

...blah blah bio stuff...

Here is a style guide for using Jay's pronouns in speech.

Really? These people are insufferable. They love the smell of their own farts and they desperately want everyone else to enjoy them, too.

"liminality of queerness"

Liminal means a point between two worlds or a transition from one reality to another.  It also carries a heavy note of instability.  It seems like they are trying to reframe their lack of stable self identity to sound cool and spiritual.  To me, it comes of as an admission of borderline personality disorder with a touch of narcissism.

Quote from: rytrasmi on November 24, 2023, 01:56:13 PM
What the fuck is "liminality of queerness"?

It means a state of transition during a rite of passage.

I translate it as, "We want to rape your children."

Liminality of queerness?
So queerness is no longer an apprentice yet not quite fully counted as a journeyman?
Sociology is fast dissolving into a science of nothing, that observes and analyzes nothing, clarifies and illuminates nothing, offers no didactic succor, but exists merely to served as a sort of institutional tool drawer to store and preserve certain narrative operators in case they should prove momentarily useful in constructing or demolishing some desired or despised narrative.

Also Monkeyhouse is kind of a big deal to oldies who played off brand super hero games like V&V and mooned over Jeff Dee art. I guess it might have faded from being an impactful entity.
Except as flavoring for also fading D20 stuff like M&M or the 'not tri-stat' version of SAS. Probably West End's  non-Star Wars D6 and Torg are better circulated and recognized.

Quote from: yosemitemike on November 21, 2023, 08:07:59 AM
Possum Creek Games should go in red.  Here's their mission statement.  It talks about the liminality of Queerness.
https://possumcreekgames.com/pages/mission-statement

Oh man that site is pure cringe   

QuoteWhile our games might visit distant lands and traipse across the stars, they are always grounded in our home in the Hudson Valley, the liminality of queerness, and the majesty of the everyday.

QuoteWe are meaningfully invested in anti-fascist action, in Indigenous stewardship over colonized land, in Queer and disabled joy, in the dismantling of the capitalist carceral state, and in the survival and prosperity of all those who have been marginalized by an unjust and cruel society.

Quote from: Trond on November 24, 2023, 04:59:36 PM

Quote from: yosemitemike on November 21, 2023, 08:07:59 AM
Possum Creek Games should go in red.  Here's their mission statement.  It talks about the liminality of Queerness.
https://possumcreekgames.com/pages/mission-statement

Oh man that site is pure cringe   

QuoteWhile our games might visit distant lands and traipse across the stars, they are always grounded in our home in the Hudson Valley, the liminality of queerness, and the majesty of the everyday.

QuoteWe are meaningfully invested in anti-fascist action, in Indigenous stewardship over colonized land, in Queer and disabled joy, in the dismantling of the capitalist carceral state, and in the survival and prosperity of all those who have been marginalized by an unjust and cruel society.

It is cringeworthy indeed.

They are some flavor of Marxist and surely obsessed with identities and the oppressed, but the open question is are they hostile to regular gamers? Do their games contain preachy screeds about how they should be played and who can play them? If not, then I'd nominate them for yellow.

Quote from: rytrasmi on November 24, 2023, 05:20:42 PM
It is cringeworthy indeed.

They are some flavor of Marxist and surely obsessed with identities and the oppressed, but the open question is are they hostile to regular gamers? Do their games contain preachy screeds about how they should be played and who can play them? If not, then I'd nominate them for yellow.

Using their games as a political platform automatically qualifies them for red.

Quote from: Trond on November 24, 2023, 04:59:36 PM

Quote from: yosemitemike on November 21, 2023, 08:07:59 AM
Possum Creek Games should go in red.  Here's their mission statement.  It talks about the liminality of Queerness.
https://possumcreekgames.com/pages/mission-statement

Oh man that site is pure cringe   

QuoteWhile our games might visit distant lands and traipse across the stars, they are always grounded in our home in the Hudson Valley, the liminality of queerness, and the majesty of the everyday.

QuoteWe are meaningfully invested in anti-fascist action, in Indigenous stewardship over colonized land, in Queer and disabled joy, in the dismantling of the capitalist carceral state, and in the survival and prosperity of all those who have been marginalized by an unjust and cruel society.

We want to be more than a publishing company.
We believe there's more to the act of creation than profit margins and bottom lines. We are not neutral or apolitical, but instead take a stance on the world we live in. We have a philosophy and a mission, and we both actively strive for and hold ourselves accountable to it. And we know we can do all that while challenging ourselves to create gorgeous works of art and unparalleled designs.

Oh neato, just what I want from my source of escapism: Dogshit twitter approved rhetoric.

We strive to challenge and revolutionize what games can be and who gets to play them.
Our games eschew many of the guiding frameworks that have historically shaped tabletop role-playing games. We create for people who have never played games before, for people who have always found games inaccessible or impenetrable, and for people who have always wanted something different than what games traditionally provide. We embrace aesthetics that aren't traditionally associated with the dominant culture of role-playing games, bringing in artists and writers from a huge variety of backgrounds and giving them the tools to make something visually distinct and uniquely stunning.

Just say "Not White Straight Men". Saves a lot of bullshitting around. 

We give back to our communities, and hold ourselves accountable to them.
We engage with and empower our fellow creatives, and seek to uplift and empower their stories and perspectives. We materially support and provide aid to people whose lives are impacted by systematic disenfranchisement and discrimination. We acknowledge that existing in community is a dynamic process, and we work to learn from those around us. We hope to build a community that can hold compassion and respect, while also giving space for righteous anger at unjust systems and hurtful actions.

This is some real r/lookatmyhalo energy and it's absolutely cringe inducing.

We dream of a better world than the one we live in today.
We are meaningfully invested in anti-fascist action, in Indigenous stewardship over colonized land, in Queer and disabled joy, in the dismantling of the capitalist carceral state, and in the survival and prosperity of all those who have been marginalized by an unjust and cruel society. We believe all of this is possible within our lifetimes, and while tabletop role-playing games are not direct action, we want to make a tool that empowers all of us to dream of frameworks outside the ones we stand against today.

Yes, a group of super diverse women that can hardly muster the courage to answer the doorbell are going to be the ones to tackle "fascism" and try to enact change. Do you think they know that the only way their studio stays solvent is if they make use of Capitalism? Or do they expect to pay the bills with the Woke Points they earn on social media?

Quote from: rytrasmi on November 24, 2023, 05:20:42 PM
Do their games contain preachy screeds about how they should be played and who can play them?

Oh yeah.  Evil Hat levels of that stuff.

Quote from: yosemitemike on November 25, 2023, 02:49:42 AM

Quote from: rytrasmi on November 24, 2023, 05:20:42 PM
Do their games contain preachy screeds about how they should be played and who can play them?

Oh yeah.  Evil Hat levels of that stuff.

Modiphius and Renegade as well with V5

Quote from: PulpHerb on November 24, 2023, 01:35:48 PM

Quote from: yosemitemike on November 21, 2023, 08:07:59 AM
Possum Creek Games should go in red.  Here's their mission statement.  It talks about the liminality of Queerness.
https://possumcreekgames.com/pages/mission-statement

Hell, the first bold items gives it away, "We want to be more than a publishing company."

Anytime I see that I read "We pretend to be a publishing company to get your money under false pretenses while doing something else."  At this point in life I don't care what the something else is, even if I agree it should be done, because I'm sick of people effectively stealing from me.

This makes me want to change my company's slogan from, "Games for people who love games," to, "providing thrills and adventure for profit."

And from Possum Creek:

QuoteWe are meaningfully invested in anti-fascist action, in Indigenous stewardship over colonized land, in Queer and disabled joy, in the dismantling of the capitalist carceral state....

So offer your games for free if you hate capitalism and are invested in fascist domestic terrorism. 



And what is "Disabled joy?" My child is disabled and HE FINDS NO JOY IN IT!  My brother was disabled for the last decade of his life AND HE COULD NOT ENJOY LIFE.  HE WAS  IN PAIN AND WAS HOUSE RIDDEN FOR FOUR YEARS.

This statement is an insult.

Quote from: Monero on November 24, 2023, 08:12:52 PM

This is some real r/lookatmyhalo energy and it's absolutely cringe inducing.

Is it a fake halo or more like a white powdered wig? I always get the impression that they're trying to show that they're so high above the common rubble and unwashed masses.

Quote from: Cathode Ray on November 26, 2023, 10:43:17 AM
This makes me want to change my company's slogan from, "Games for people who love games," to, "providing thrills and adventure for profit."

Why not both...they aren't incompatible nor are you claiming to do something other than what you do and that includes making money off your games.

Are we allowed to put Facebook fan pages on the list? I nominate Rebel fans of Palladium Books.

The main admin is unusually woke to the point of being obnoxious to a vomit inducing degree. To the point where they have openly declared holy moral war on Palladium books simply because they refuse to make a comment about an podcast they were on LOM I think.

Where one of the members is supposedly transphobic. Even though they maybe legally unable or alsonot forced to make a comment. Silence is violence of course and Kevin and company are Transphobic. As well s Fascists because they refuse to make the Coalition less " offensive and problematic ".

Fuck them I quit their echo chamber and banned them both.

Quote from: Abraxus on November 29, 2023, 09:41:42 AM
Are we allowed to put Facebook fan pages on the list? I nominate Rebel fans of Palladium Books.

The main admin is unusually woke to the point of being obnoxious to a vomit inducing degree. To the point where they have openly declared holy moral war on Palladium books simply because they refuse to make a comment about an podcast they were on LOM I think.

Where one of the members is supposedly transphobic. Even though they maybe legally unable or alsonot forced to make a comment. Silence is violence of course and Kevin and company are Transphobic. As well s Fascists because they refuse to make the Coalition less " offensive and problematic ".

Fuck them I quit their echo chamber and banned them both.

The list is to advise consumers so they can have some guidance before the spend their hard earned dollar.  If they provide a product or a service for pay, then this is the place to track it.

That said, it's always nice to get a heads up before walking into a hostile room.

Quote from: Abraxus on November 29, 2023, 09:41:42 AM
Are we allowed to put Facebook fan pages on the list? I nominate Rebel fans of Palladium Books.

The main admin is unusually woke to the point of being obnoxious to a vomit inducing degree. To the point where they have openly declared holy moral war on Palladium books simply because they refuse to make a comment about an podcast they were on LOM I think.

Where one of the members is supposedly transphobic. Even though they maybe legally unable or alsonot forced to make a comment. Silence is violence of course and Kevin and company are Transphobic. As well s Fascists because they refuse to make the Coalition less " offensive and problematic ".

Fuck them I quit their echo chamber and banned them both.

Unless you are paying money to subscribe to their page they are just another hack fraud site.