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[List] TTRPG Guide to Woke Companies

Started by Ocule, August 03, 2021, 12:26:41 PM

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Scooter

#4050
July 18, 2023, 01:43:41 PM
Glad my 2 main games are in the green C&C and Cepheus Deluxe.  Troll Lords and Stella Gaming respectively.
There is no saving throw vs. stupidity

The Spaniard

#4051
July 18, 2023, 02:16:50 PM
Quote from: Scooter on July 18, 2023, 01:43:41 PM
Glad my 2 main games are in the green C&C and Cepheus Deluxe.  Troll Lords and Stella Gaming respectively.

Yea, the Trolls are good dudes.  No bs with them, just gaming stuff. 

Theory of Games

#4052
July 18, 2023, 04:39:30 PM
Why we say "NO!" to the BS:

TTRPGs are just games. Friends are forever.

Persimmon

#4053
July 19, 2023, 09:03:22 AM
Quote from: King Tyranno on July 02, 2023, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: Abbo1993 on June 26, 2023, 06:43:18 AM
Quote from: KenpoGMBrian on June 25, 2023, 08:52:05 PM
How did the courageous people on this thread overcome the fear of being canceled?   

Looking for recommendations from the people who subscribe and respond to this thread on the following.   I am looking for a new RPG to try that would be on the green list free of trans content and preferred pronouns, using other skills besides kill on site like problem-solving, and is safe for kids.

Old school essentials is a pretty safe bet for kids but it's ruleset can be a little complicated, nothing that can't be overcome but still, another good pick for kids would be either Cairn or Maze Rats, don't know much about the authors but they don't have any pronouns or other idelogical stuff in it and they are also free.
There is also Savage Worlds, I know it's on the yellow list but the core book is devoid of any weird stuff and my nephews had a ton of fun playing it, the ruleset is also fairly complicated but still great for running adventurous games with very capable protagonists.
Last but not least, there is also the Labyrinth rpg, I bought it on a whim being a fan of the original movie and It is made especially with kids in mind, definitely worth a try.

I would disagree about OSE being complicated. Especially compared to 5E. I actually started running my current game for a group of kids using OSE because some of them hadn't played a TTRPG before and I wanted something that was familiar to DnD players but not as complex and bloated. They really enjoyed it but I'm now at the point where they've demanded I give them a more complex system. At first I was going to go for Savage Worlds and now we've settled for ACKS because they really like the idea of having their own domains to fight each other with. I may even have to go further afield and dust off my dad's AD&D 1E books for patron and domain play with 1:1 timescale.

TLDR: Don't underestimate the intelligence of kids. Especially ages ten and up.

You may already know this, but ACKS will be kickstarting their revised (Imperial Imprint) edition in the next month or so.

kaliburnuz

#4054
September 17, 2023, 06:44:21 AM
I don't fully understand why Goodman Games is in red

They distanced themselves away from a company who was openly anti semit? Also the description itself says that there is not much more to say about them.

About the pronouns, it's imperceptive unless you are REALLY looking for it. They have 0 woke in their books, adventures and scenarios.

Can't we move them to green or if going really hard on them yellow?

Or am I missing something?

Exploderwizard

#4055
September 17, 2023, 08:06:04 AM
Quote from: kaliburnuz on September 17, 2023, 06:44:21 AM
I don't fully understand why Goodman Games is in red

They distanced themselves away from a company who was openly anti semit? Also the description itself says that there is not much more to say about them.

About the pronouns, it's imperceptive unless you are REALLY looking for it. They have 0 woke in their books, adventures and scenarios.

Can't we move them to green or if going really hard on them yellow?

Or am I missing something?

The fact that they felt the need to address pronouns at all is enough. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

Persimmon

#4056
September 17, 2023, 10:03:41 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard on September 17, 2023, 08:06:04 AM
Quote from: kaliburnuz on September 17, 2023, 06:44:21 AM
I don't fully understand why Goodman Games is in red

They distanced themselves away from a company who was openly anti semit? Also the description itself says that there is not much more to say about them.

About the pronouns, it's imperceptive unless you are REALLY looking for it. They have 0 woke in their books, adventures and scenarios.

Can't we move them to green or if going really hard on them yellow?

Or am I missing something?

The fact that they felt the need to address pronouns at all is enough. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.

They've also done a good degree of virtue signaling in general the past few years, including, as I recall, supporting BLM.  Their discussion boards are also pretty toxic in the tradition of TBP.  But I'd probably make them Yellow, rather than Red.  But it's not my list.

Abbo1993

#4057
September 17, 2023, 10:35:34 AM
I like DCC but they definitely pander, still they didn't go too far as of yet, I would put them yellow but I'm pretty sure they will get to red eventually...

Plotinus

#4058
September 17, 2023, 06:11:18 PM
Quote from: kaliburnuz on September 17, 2023, 06:44:21 AM
I don't fully understand why Goodman Games is in red

They distanced themselves away from a company who was openly anti semit? Also the description itself says that there is not much more to say about them.

About the pronouns, it's imperceptive unless you are REALLY looking for it. They have 0 woke in their books, adventures and scenarios.

Can't we move them to green or if going really hard on them yellow?

Or am I missing something?

Their main sin is in their con guidelines, which are truly vile:

https://goodman-games.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/DCO-Policies.pdf

QuoteDungeon Con Online prioritizes marginalized people's safety over privileged people's comfort.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints of 'reverse' -isms, including 'reverse racism,' 'reverse sexism,' and 'cisphobia'.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints against the reasonable communication of boundaries, such as "leave me alone," "go away," or "I'm not discussing this with you."

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints of someone communicating in a 'tone' you don't find congenial.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints against criticisms of racist, sexist, cissexist, or otherwise oppressive behavior or assumptions.

In other words, they nominally have an anti-harassment policy, but in reality they don't. They redefine harassment as disagreeing with progressive dogma. Which if you think about it, is a truly, deeply despicable thing to do.

Steeldom

#4059
September 18, 2023, 05:13:09 AM
QuoteDungeon Con Online prioritizes marginalized people's safety over privileged people's comfort.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints of 'reverse' -isms, including 'reverse racism,' 'reverse sexism,' and 'cisphobia'.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints against the reasonable communication of boundaries, such as "leave me alone," "go away," or "I'm not discussing this with you."

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints of someone communicating in a 'tone' you don't find congenial.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints against criticisms of racist, sexist, cissexist, or otherwise oppressive behavior or assumptions.

In other words: "If you are a white, hetero "cis" male don't even bother reporting anything because frankly, we don't care about you."

zircher

#4060
September 18, 2023, 05:29:59 PM
Wow, I didn't see anything about actual violence, as long as you are congenial.   :o
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Cathode Ray

#4061
September 18, 2023, 09:03:52 PM
Quote from: Steeldom on September 18, 2023, 05:13:09 AM
QuoteDungeon Con Online prioritizes marginalized people's safety over privileged people's comfort.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints of 'reverse' -isms, including 'reverse racism,' 'reverse sexism,' and 'cisphobia'.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints against the reasonable communication of boundaries, such as "leave me alone," "go away," or "I'm not discussing this with you."

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints of someone communicating in a 'tone' you don't find congenial.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints against criticisms of racist, sexist, cissexist, or otherwise oppressive behavior or assumptions.

In other words: "If you are a white, hetero "cis" male don't even bother reporting anything because frankly, we don't care about you."

Wow. Is there a 7th level of red for this type of evil??
Creator of Radical High, a 1980s RPG.
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Effete

#4062
September 18, 2023, 09:29:03 PM
Quote
QuoteDungeon Con Online prioritizes marginalized people's safety over privileged people's comfort.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints of 'reverse' -isms, including 'reverse racism,' 'reverse sexism,' and 'cisphobia'.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints against the reasonable communication of boundaries, such as "leave me alone," "go away," or "I'm not discussing this with you."

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints of someone communicating in a 'tone' you don't find congenial.

Dungeon Con Online reserves the right not to act on complaints against criticisms of racist, sexist, cissexist, or otherwise oppressive behavior or assumptions.

In other words, they nominally have an anti-harassment policy, but in reality they don't. They redefine harassment as disagreeing with progressive dogma. Which if you think about it, is a truly, deeply despicable thing to do.

It's very weaselly-worded.
They reserve the right not to act on such complaints, but you better believe if the complaintant is of the correct persuasion, they WILL act. This is just a way to selectively enforce behavior.

Me: "Um, excuse me, sir?"
Thing: "It's MA'AM !!"
Me: "Oh, okay. Whatever."
Thing: "StOp oPpReSsiNg mE."
Me: "Leave me alone!"
Thing: Reeeeeeeeeee!!!
Admin: "Excuse me, sir?"
Me: " It's ma'am..."
>>>banned<<<

Exploderwizard

#4063
September 18, 2023, 09:56:10 PM
Quote from: zircher on September 18, 2023, 05:29:59 PM
Wow, I didn't see anything about actual violence, as long as you are congenial.   :o

You didn't get the snowflake memo:

WORDS ARE VIOLENCE!!!!!   Thats right. Say something a snowflake disagrees with and you are LITERALLY beating them with a stick.

My guess is that anyone who got sick of their shit and showed them what actual violence was, they would crap their pants and cry.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

Effete

#4064
September 18, 2023, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard on September 18, 2023, 09:56:10 PM
My guess is that anyone who got sick of their shit and showed them what actual violence was, they would crap their pants and cry.

Oh, they know what real violence is. They use it constantly on others.
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