[List] TTRPG Guide to Woke Companies

PulpHerb · April 20, 2023, 11:25:38 PM

Quote from: Psyckosama on April 20, 2023, 08:48:46 PM
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That said, I'd like to nominate Massif Press for a Red.

They basically bitched and whined and refused to take their ennie because "Blood in the Chocolate" won an award because fans liked it.

I tend to be rather apolitical but that is just top tier wtf.

Blood and the chocolate had a black lesbian as the BBEG, why in the hell would they not love that module?

that said: I enjoyed the hell out of that module.

You just answered your own question.

Blood and the chocolate had a black lesbian as the BBEG.

Given the wokest love to identify with evil (SFO, not by any stretch an right winger making claims did a whole video on it) this should be a selling point.

JimLotFP · April 21, 2023, 01:13:32 AM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on April 20, 2023, 07:12:57 PM
Blood and the chocolate had a black lesbian as the BBEG, why in the hell would they not love that module?

Because I published it.

Slambo · April 21, 2023, 01:19:34 PM

Quote from: Psyckosama on April 20, 2023, 06:28:46 PM
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Because if this was the other way around, a game where you can only play male space warriors, wouldn't there be instant cries of "white supremacy rape culture mega maga fasscistsssss!!!"?

*cough*

*cough*

Though technically the "mega fascists" bit is accurate... but I don't hear much howling over it. The typical characters only feed on the weak.

That said, I'd like to nominate Massif Press for a Red.

They basically bitched and whined and refused to take their ennie because "Blood in the Chocolate" won an award because fans liked it.

I tend to be rather apolitical but that is just top tier wtf.

People agitate for female space marines all the time.

Psyckosama · April 21, 2023, 02:58:34 PM

Quote from: Slambo on April 21, 2023, 01:19:34 PM
People agitate for female space marines all the time.

People are also complete fucking morons by the by, but most of that agitation normally amounts to a couple grumbling idiots, easily ignored.

Grognard GM · April 21, 2023, 05:07:32 PM

Quote from: Psyckosama on April 21, 2023, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: Slambo on April 21, 2023, 01:19:34 PM
People agitate for female space marines all the time.

People are also complete fucking morons by the by, but most of that agitation normally amounts to a couple grumbling idiots, easily ignored.

Except a few fuckwits on Twitter, if determined and loud enough, could definitely get GW to cuck, and alter their lore. Shit, they trash their own lore all the time, they don't care.

Hopladamus · April 21, 2023, 09:29:12 PM

I saw that Noble Knight Games is on the green list. If this video by Venger is to be believed, then they belong on either the yellow or the red list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pmUmAnRVJM

Psyckosama · April 21, 2023, 10:22:11 PM

Quote from: Grognard GM on April 21, 2023, 05:07:32 PM
Except a few fuckwits on Twitter, if determined and loud enough, could definitely get GW to cuck, and alter their lore. Shit, they trash their own lore all the time, they don't care.

GW knows where their bread is buttered. It would shred their profits by alienating the significant number of wingnuts in their fanbase. You know, the ones who take 40k's nazi pastiche 100% seriously?

Grognard GM · April 22, 2023, 10:56:26 AM

Quote from: Psyckosama on April 21, 2023, 10:22:11 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on April 21, 2023, 05:07:32 PM
Except a few fuckwits on Twitter, if determined and loud enough, could definitely get GW to cuck, and alter their lore. Shit, they trash their own lore all the time, they don't care.

GW knows where their bread is buttered. It would shred their profits by alienating the significant number of wingnuts in their fanbase. You know, the ones who take 40k's nazi pastiche 100% seriously?

You should try playing a Guard army, as you're a Tankie.

Psyckosama · April 22, 2023, 11:34:55 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on April 22, 2023, 10:56:26 AM
You should try playing a Guard army, as you're a Tankie.

The fact that you lack the basic awareness to realize that people like that are actually a thing and your own emotional recourse is to call anyone who points it out a communist is about fifteen flavors of pathetic.

Now to get back on my point, for their many, many flaws as a company, GW is too busy making fucking money to play SJW fuck-fuck games with their bottom line. They know the SJW will bitch, the SJWs will whine, but people will still buy their products because SJWs don't spend 20 dollars a head on overpriced plastic crack.

Honestly that's something more companies need to get: SJWs bitch, whine, and don't buy shit.

Brad · April 22, 2023, 12:03:56 PM

Quote from: Psyckosama on April 21, 2023, 10:22:11 PM
GW knows where their bread is buttered. It would shred their profits by alienating the significant number of wingnuts in their fanbase. You know, the ones who take 40k's nazi pastiche 100% seriously?

Are you talking about the fanatics who play the game taking it too seriously, or they're playing the game specifically because they're Nazis? Because if it's the second, well...

Psyckosama · April 22, 2023, 12:22:01 PM

Quote from: Brad on April 22, 2023, 12:03:56 PM
Are you talking about the fanatics who play the game taking it too seriously, or they're playing the game specifically because they're Nazis? Because if it's the second, well...

Mostly the first, I've physically met a couple of the second, but they're thankfully... uncommon as to be a statistical anomaly.

Volunteering at military history museums will expose you to some... unique individuals. Nothing quite as surreal like listening to a guy in full Waffen SS dress uniform with a giant Totenkopfverbände Death's Head sticker on his car talk to you about his guard army.

But yes, for the most part talking about the people who play it, completely miss the fact that Warhammer 40,000 was originally written as parody, go "Yeah, this makes perfect sense!".

Psyckosama · April 22, 2023, 12:22:22 PM

Oops. Hit quote instead of edit

Grognard GM · April 22, 2023, 12:39:03 PM

Quote from: Psyckosama on April 22, 2023, 11:34:55 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on April 22, 2023, 10:56:26 AM
You should try playing a Guard army, as you're a Tankie.

The fact that you lack the basic awareness to realize that people like that are actually a thing and your own emotional recourse is to call anyone who points it out a communist is about fifteen flavors of pathetic.

I've been in the hobby for 30 years. Anyone saying that there is a 'significant number' of Nazis/Fascists in the fanbase is a Tankie. Because your idea of what makes someone a 'Fascist' is so off the mark.

Do you believe the guy with the SS cosplay was a legitimate Nazi, and he was just uncommonly open about it? I find it far more likely that he's obsessed with WW2, likes dress up, and is so disconnected from the emotional/moral connotations of Nazism, that to him it's just dress up, like dressing like a Klingon.

When I see the Nazi-chic that is popular in parts of Asia (look it up) I don't think "OMG, the Fourth Reich!" I think "it's been so long from WW2, to some people it's just a costume."

Psyckosama · April 22, 2023, 03:01:45 PM

Quote from: Grognard GM on April 22, 2023, 12:39:03 PM
I've been in the hobby for 30 years.

Oh, you too? Well isn't that special.

QuoteAnyone saying that there is a 'significant number' of Nazis/Fascists in the fanbase is a Tankie. Because your idea of what makes someone a 'Fascist' is so off the mark.

First, you clearly do not understand what Tankie even means. You say word you not understand. Tankie means militant communist. I'm neither militant, nor a communist, nor willing to put up your your mindless aspersions.

Second, significant in this case means enough to count on their bottom line. Not everyone on the right is a freedom loving American patriot who bleeds red white and blue. There's plenty of lunatic cunts on both sides of the argument.

QuoteDo you believe the guy with the SS cosplay was a legitimate Nazi, and he was just uncommonly open about it? I find it far more likely that he's obsessed with WW2, likes dress up, and is so disconnected from the emotional/moral connotations of Nazism, that to him it's just dress up, like dressing like a Klingon.

You didn't talk to the guy.

QuoteWhen I see the Nazi-chic that is popular in parts of Asia (look it up) I don't think "OMG, the Fourth Reich!" I think "it's been so long from WW2, to some people it's just a costume."

Asia is disconnected enough that Nazi symbolism has no cultural meaning. The US is a very different place.

mudbanks · April 22, 2023, 10:08:33 PM

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Anyone know anything about Earl of Fife Games? Their upcoming Heroes & Hardships game might be a viable alternative to GURPS.

No, I don't think anyone ever has. So now I have to ask: are you the guy who makes these games? Or working with/for him?

Because when I hear someone just randomly asking about a hugely obscure game trying to shill daniel-style like it was something everyone already knew about, my first thought is that this is an Ad.

For what it's worth, I have. I bought their Fear Factory V adventure earlier this year. My group enjoyed it and I had planned to check out H&H. Past that, I can't really say much about them as a company.

Heroes & Hardships is on sale, and it seems to have been very well-received. Is it worth the money? I like reading through universal systems for inspiration. Plus Jason seems like a decent chap who hasn't shown any signs of wokeness.