Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 27, 2023, 01:50:50 PM
Speaking of shitty RPGs, it seems Coyote & Crow got turfed off Paypal.

Nice!  One member of our group wanted to run that right after it came out.  I got a few pages in and said absolutely not.  We flushed it.

double post

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 28, 2023, 07:22:57 AM


You're not holding them to their own standards, you're just foaming at the mouth at anything that even remotely looks like it MIGHT be "woke" or have a hint of "left" leaning

O Rly?

Because if this was the other way around, a game where you can only play male space warriors, wouldn't there be instant cries of "white supremacy rape culture mega maga fasscistsssss!!!"?

Hell, in Lion & Dragon I GO OUT OF MY WAY  to make a chapter explaining how female PCs can be integrated into the medieval authentic group (by somewhat stretching the medieval authentic boundaries), and in actual real world tactics, they held ME to the standard that I was a RAPE CULTURE MISOGYNIST for not suggesting that women were just as free and powerful as men and could actually do everything and really more than men did back in 1454.

Its funny how the second I saw Coyote & Crow I thought (and in essence stated in my video) "this guy is a grifter".
And every single news update after the first has since then only reinforced it.

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 30, 2023, 02:42:13 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 28, 2023, 07:22:57 AM


You're not holding them to their own standards, you're just foaming at the mouth at anything that even remotely looks like it MIGHT be "woke" or have a hint of "left" leaning

O Rly?

Because if this was the other way around, a game where you can only play male space warriors, wouldn't there be instant cries of "white supremacy rape culture mega maga fasscistsssss!!!"?

Hell, in Lion & Dragon I GO OUT OF MY WAY  to make a chapter explaining how female PCs can be integrated into the medieval authentic group (by somewhat stretching the medieval authentic boundaries), and in actual real world tactics, they held ME to the standard that I was a RAPE CULTURE MISOGYNIST for not suggesting that women were just as free and powerful as men and could actually do everything and really more than men did back in 1454.

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 30, 2023, 02:43:18 PM
Its funny how the second I saw Coyote & Crow I thought (and in essence stated in my video) "this guy is a grifter".
And every single news update after the first has since then only reinforced it.

My son and a few friends signed onto the Kickstarter in 2021. He delivered the PDF on time and the physical product within two months of the estimated date, and it matched what was promised. Regardless of what one thinks of the content of the game, that's better than a lot of Kickstarters have done.

I don't agree with all his politics, but he delivered what he said he would.

Quote from: jhkim on March 30, 2023, 07:55:37 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 30, 2023, 02:43:18 PM
Its funny how the second I saw Coyote & Crow I thought (and in essence stated in my video) "this guy is a grifter".
And every single news update after the first has since then only reinforced it.

My son and a few friends signed onto the Kickstarter in 2021. He delivered the PDF on time and the physical product within two months of the estimated date, and it matched what was promised. Regardless of what one thinks of the content of the game, that's better than a lot of Kickstarters have done.

I don't agree with all his politics, but he delivered what he said he would.

But he did not deliver what he said he would.

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 30, 2023, 02:42:13 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 28, 2023, 07:22:57 AM


You're not holding them to their own standards, you're just foaming at the mouth at anything that even remotely looks like it MIGHT be "woke" or have a hint of "left" leaning

O Rly?

Because if this was the other way around, a game where you can only play male space warriors, wouldn't there be instant cries of "white supremacy rape culture mega maga fasscistsssss!!!"?

Nobody cares, as I mentioned in the part of my post that you snipped out. This is a non point that absolutely no one outside of a very specific group of culture warriors even wastes time worrying about. There can be absolutely ZERO "holding to account", when society as a whole cares not one whit about what's being supposedly held to account.

Yes, there is a double standard. Normal, everyday people DO NOT care, about either side of this specific issue. NOBODY outside the woke mob cries about gender specific classes or whatnot, and the woke are absolute unprincipled nitwits who won't even get that you're "holding" them to account or why it is important to have standards. You're just tilting at windmills and patting yourselves in the backs for "pwning" the woke in ways that absolutely NO ONE outside of your group even cares.

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 31, 2023, 08:28:07 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 30, 2023, 02:42:13 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 28, 2023, 07:22:57 AM


You're not holding them to their own standards, you're just foaming at the mouth at anything that even remotely looks like it MIGHT be "woke" or have a hint of "left" leaning

O Rly?

Because if this was the other way around, a game where you can only play male space warriors, wouldn't there be instant cries of "white supremacy rape culture mega maga fasscistsssss!!!"?

Nobody cares, as I mentioned in the part of my post that you snipped out. This is a non point that absolutely no one outside of a very specific group of culture warriors even wastes time worrying about. There can be absolutely ZERO "holding to account", when society as a whole cares not one whit about what's being supposedly held to account.

Yes, there is a double standard. Normal, everyday people DO NOT care, about either side of this specific issue. NOBODY outside the woke mob cries about gender specific classes or whatnot, and the woke are absolute unprincipled nitwits who won't even get that you're "holding" them to account or why it is important to have standards. You're just tilting at windmills and patting yourselves in the backs for "pwning" the woke in ways that absolutely NO ONE outside of your group even cares.

You've spoken to everyone about this?  Amazing...

Quote from: The Spaniard on March 31, 2023, 09:02:38 AM

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 31, 2023, 08:28:07 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 30, 2023, 02:42:13 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 28, 2023, 07:22:57 AM


You're not holding them to their own standards, you're just foaming at the mouth at anything that even remotely looks like it MIGHT be "woke" or have a hint of "left" leaning

O Rly?

Because if this was the other way around, a game where you can only play male space warriors, wouldn't there be instant cries of "white supremacy rape culture mega maga fasscistsssss!!!"?

Nobody cares, as I mentioned in the part of my post that you snipped out. This is a non point that absolutely no one outside of a very specific group of culture warriors even wastes time worrying about. There can be absolutely ZERO "holding to account", when society as a whole cares not one whit about what's being supposedly held to account.

Yes, there is a double standard. Normal, everyday people DO NOT care, about either side of this specific issue. NOBODY outside the woke mob cries about gender specific classes or whatnot, and the woke are absolute unprincipled nitwits who won't even get that you're "holding" them to account or why it is important to have standards. You're just tilting at windmills and patting yourselves in the backs for "pwning" the woke in ways that absolutely NO ONE outside of your group even cares.

You've spoken to everyone about this?  Amazing...

Yes, I personally conferred with every normal person on this planet and they all unanimously confirmed (when they even knew WTF any of this was about) that we're just crazy and nobody cares.

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 31, 2023, 10:38:16 AM

Quote from: The Spaniard on March 31, 2023, 09:02:38 AM

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 31, 2023, 08:28:07 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 30, 2023, 02:42:13 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 28, 2023, 07:22:57 AM


You're not holding them to their own standards, you're just foaming at the mouth at anything that even remotely looks like it MIGHT be "woke" or have a hint of "left" leaning

O Rly?

Because if this was the other way around, a game where you can only play male space warriors, wouldn't there be instant cries of "white supremacy rape culture mega maga fasscistsssss!!!"?

Nobody cares, as I mentioned in the part of my post that you snipped out. This is a non point that absolutely no one outside of a very specific group of culture warriors even wastes time worrying about. There can be absolutely ZERO "holding to account", when society as a whole cares not one whit about what's being supposedly held to account.

Yes, there is a double standard. Normal, everyday people DO NOT care, about either side of this specific issue. NOBODY outside the woke mob cries about gender specific classes or whatnot, and the woke are absolute unprincipled nitwits who won't even get that you're "holding" them to account or why it is important to have standards. You're just tilting at windmills and patting yourselves in the backs for "pwning" the woke in ways that absolutely NO ONE outside of your group even cares.

You've spoken to everyone about this?  Amazing...

Yes, I personally conferred with every normal person on this planet and they all unanimously confirmed (when they even knew WTF any of this was about) that we're just crazy and nobody cares.

Every time someone shares their opinion here, on a site made for people to share their opinions, you feel the need to share your opinion that their opinion is wrong and doesn't matter.

There are broken records with more replay value than your posts in this thread. I'd tell you to stop sucking the air out of the room, but Joe Sixpack doesn't know this argument exists, so something-something I lose.

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 30, 2023, 02:43:18 PM
Its funny how the second I saw Coyote & Crow I thought (and in essence stated in my video) "this guy is a grifter".
And every single news update after the first has since then only reinforced it.

Coyote & Crow is one of those things that if I was given a time machine back to not many years ago, I wouldn't be able to convince anyone that it would happen.  Like if I could go onto a forum in 1998 or 2008 and I described the entire thing, I'd be banned as trying to make liberals look bad, or whatever.  Literally no one would believe the concept, the pitch, the crowdfunding, the man, the interactions, the absurd racialist complaints, or the support it would gain- it would just be dismissed as impossible, in some cases by the people who would YASS QWEEN it just a few years later.

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 31, 2023, 10:38:16 AM

Quote from: The Spaniard on March 31, 2023, 09:02:38 AM

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 31, 2023, 08:28:07 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 30, 2023, 02:42:13 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 28, 2023, 07:22:57 AM


You're not holding them to their own standards, you're just foaming at the mouth at anything that even remotely looks like it MIGHT be "woke" or have a hint of "left" leaning

O Rly?

Because if this was the other way around, a game where you can only play male space warriors, wouldn't there be instant cries of "white supremacy rape culture mega maga fasscistsssss!!!"?

Nobody cares, as I mentioned in the part of my post that you snipped out. This is a non point that absolutely no one outside of a very specific group of culture warriors even wastes time worrying about. There can be absolutely ZERO "holding to account", when society as a whole cares not one whit about what's being supposedly held to account.

Yes, there is a double standard. Normal, everyday people DO NOT care, about either side of this specific issue. NOBODY outside the woke mob cries about gender specific classes or whatnot, and the woke are absolute unprincipled nitwits who won't even get that you're "holding" them to account or why it is important to have standards. You're just tilting at windmills and patting yourselves in the backs for "pwning" the woke in ways that absolutely NO ONE outside of your group even cares.

You've spoken to everyone about this?  Amazing...

Yes, I personally conferred with every normal person on this planet and they all unanimously confirmed (when they even knew WTF any of this was about) that we're just crazy and nobody cares.

Absolutes are easy to disprove and make you look stupid.  Case in point.

Quote from: Grognard GM on March 31, 2023, 11:06:08 AMEvery time someone shares their opinion here, on a site made for people to share their opinions, you feel the need to share your opinion that their opinion is wrong and doesn't matter.

Feel free to mention three examples when this has happened recently. Not that people telling each other that they're wrong in an online forum ain't exactly commonplace, or a "criticism" that couldn't potentially be leveled at absolutely everyone here are one point.

Quote from: Grognard GM on March 31, 2023, 11:06:08 AMThere are broken records with more replay value than your posts in this thread. I'd tell you to stop sucking the air out of the room, but Joe Sixpack doesn't know this argument exists, so something-something I lose.

Your lack of counterargument is noted.

Quote from: The Spaniard on March 31, 2023, 12:20:10 PMAbsolutes are easy to disprove and make you look stupid.  Case in point.

Your lack of counterargument is noted as well. And there's a difference between hyperbole and genuine absolute statements, nor is pointing out either a counterpoint or refutation. Just your feeble attempt to "win" an argument in the internet by nitpicking superficial apparent flaws in what's being said, in lieu of addressing the essence of it. Like a pigeon on a chessboard.

Quote from: VisionStorm on March 31, 2023, 12:50:46 PM

Quote from: Grognard GM on March 31, 2023, 11:06:08 AMEvery time someone shares their opinion here, on a site made for people to share their opinions, you feel the need to share your opinion that their opinion is wrong and doesn't matter.

Feel free to mention three examples when this has happened recently. Not that people telling each other that they're wrong in an online forum ain't exactly commonplace, or a "criticism" that couldn't potentially be leveled at absolutely everyone here are one point.

Quote from: Grognard GM on March 31, 2023, 11:06:08 AMThere are broken records with more replay value than your posts in this thread. I'd tell you to stop sucking the air out of the room, but Joe Sixpack doesn't know this argument exists, so something-something I lose.

Your lack of counterargument is noted.

Quote from: The Spaniard on March 31, 2023, 12:20:10 PMAbsolutes are easy to disprove and make you look stupid.  Case in point.

Your lack of counterargument is noted as well. And there's a difference between hyperbole and genuine absolute statements, nor is pointing out either a counterpoint or refutation. Just your feeble attempt to "win" an argument in the internet by nitpicking superficial apparent flaws in what's being said, in lieu of addressing the essence of it. Like a pigeon on a chessboard.

I never made an argument, just a statement.  Your inability to tell the difference proves my earlier point.