[List] TTRPG Guide to Woke Companies

Grognard GM · February 16, 2023, 10:43:58 AM

Quote from: Diversity Dragon on February 14, 2023, 08:59:13 PMYet Pinnacle Entertainment continues to coast by in the green while they bowed to social pressure and removed a giant part of the Deadlands mythology because it involved the South in the Civil War.

I've already tilted at that windmill here, as did another poster.

THE_Leopold · February 16, 2023, 11:34:51 AM

Quote from: Steeldom on February 16, 2023, 04:14:19 AM
I may have an addition to the green list:
Wyvern Gaming LCC with their StarGate RPG.

While their character design seems to be a bit modern I only found a tiny paragraph on a single page in the StarGate rulebook about boundaries in session zero.
The rest seems to be solid. Their forum guide is also clean as well as facebook and twitter (as far as I can tell).

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wyvrengaming/stargate-roleplaying-game/description
https://wyverngaming.com/
https://stargatetherpg.com/guidelines/

What do you think?

They've done Stargate as a license and some cthulu stuff. Is there anything else they are known for? They seem unimportant and keeping to their own, no need to add them to any list.

Ocule · February 16, 2023, 03:17:56 PM

Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 16, 2023, 10:11:30 AM
Quote from: Ocule on February 14, 2023, 03:40:30 AM
and Steve Jackson is barely on red. Only by their own admission of certain politics being inserted hypothetically into their products but honestly I haven't seen them follow through yet. The others would take a miracle.

Have you seen 1) their pro-abortion T-shirt with Flower from Munchkin? and 2) the game expansion Illuminati 2020? Lists Trump as "violent, criminal" has BLM politics, and mocks anti-vaxxers, as well as other fringe nonsense that serves as porn for the left.

I have not wtf

Steeldom · February 16, 2023, 03:28:28 PM

The t-shirt in question:
https://www.redbubble.com/de/i/t-shirt/Blume-Unsere-Körper-unsere-Wahl-Für-Wohltätigkeitszwecke-von-SJ-Games/116922983.VL7OD.XYZ

There's also this corresponding statement:
http://www.sjgames.com/ill/archive/July_08_2022/Roe_v_Wade

Diversity Dragon · February 16, 2023, 04:36:43 PM

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 16, 2023, 10:43:58 AM
Quote from: Diversity Dragon on February 14, 2023, 08:59:13 PMYet Pinnacle Entertainment continues to coast by in the green while they bowed to social pressure and removed a giant part of the Deadlands mythology because it involved the South in the Civil War.

I've already tilted at that windmill here, as did another poster.

Yea, at some point I'll be making a follow up video on the list and some of the inconsistencies. It's a good start for sure, but definitely just seems to operate on personal fiat.

Aglondir · February 16, 2023, 09:02:09 PM

Quote from: Ocule on February 16, 2023, 03:17:56 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 16, 2023, 10:11:30 AM
Quote from: Ocule on February 14, 2023, 03:40:30 AM
and Steve Jackson is barely on red. Only by their own admission of certain politics being inserted hypothetically into their products but honestly I haven't seen them follow through yet. The others would take a miracle.

Have you seen 1) their pro-abortion T-shirt with Flower from Munchkin? and 2) the game expansion Illuminati 2020? Lists Trump as "violent, criminal" has BLM politics, and mocks anti-vaxxers, as well as other fringe nonsense that serves as porn for the left.

I have not wtf

Quote from: AglondirWow. It gets worse. I just saw "Illuminati Second Edition 2020" on Ebay. Not sure how I missed this, but I haven't seen anyone mention it here before. Mods: Although technically it relates to a card game (and not an RPG) it is published by Steve Jackson Games, and seems related to this thread. If not, feel free to move it to a more suitable location.

First, some background. Many of you grew up playing the original Illuminati card game in the 80's; or the collectible version, Illuminati: new World Order in the 90's. Both of those games were fun card games about conspiracies vying for world domination. They took an even-handed stance when it came to politics, mildly poking fun at both sides of the aisle. There were cards for both Bill Clinton and Al Gore, as well as Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The new game looks like an expansion that mostly focuses on Covid. While I haven't seen the entirety of the new game—and if you have, please chime in—the cards I see on Ebay are woke and one-sided. Examples:

Black Lives Matter: No artwork. Text reads: "A turning point for society... this card counts as Special. When it is played, keep it on the table like an NWO, but nothing can remove it."

The Wise Doctor: Obviously Dr. Fauci.

USA #1 (in deaths): Probably meant to be Covid deaths (but according to Wikipedia, we're #21.)

Autonomous Zones: Artwork shows happy, diverse, peaceful people behind a barricade with a tent in the background. Alignment is fanatic and liberal, so this probably is meant to represent CHAZ/CHOP.

Mass Demonstrations: Artwork shows happy, diverse, peaceful people wearing masks. (Probably meant to be BLM/Antifa, but it is hard to tell since nothing is on fire.)

Covidiots: Artwork shows angry virus hoaxers. Three are wearing red caps, one is holding a sign about the Bill of Rights. Everyone in the artwork is white.

Pro-virus Rallies: Artwork shows angry people spreading the virus. Five people wearing red caps, everyone in the artwork is white.

That Guy: Although you can't see the figure's face, the orange skin, red tie, and small hands are obviously a thinly-veiled reference to Trump. The card's alignment is: conservative, criminal, and violent.

Statue Smashers: The only card I see ridiculing the Left, making fun of people who indiscriminately topple statues.

Grognard GM · February 17, 2023, 12:08:36 AM

Quote from: Aglondir on February 16, 2023, 09:02:09 PM
Quote from: Ocule on February 16, 2023, 03:17:56 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 16, 2023, 10:11:30 AM
Quote from: Ocule on February 14, 2023, 03:40:30 AM
and Steve Jackson is barely on red. Only by their own admission of certain politics being inserted hypothetically into their products but honestly I haven't seen them follow through yet. The others would take a miracle.

Have you seen 1) their pro-abortion T-shirt with Flower from Munchkin? and 2) the game expansion Illuminati 2020? Lists Trump as "violent, criminal" has BLM politics, and mocks anti-vaxxers, as well as other fringe nonsense that serves as porn for the left.

I have not wtf

Quote from: AglondirWow. It gets worse. I just saw "Illuminati Second Edition 2020" on Ebay. Not sure how I missed this, but I haven't seen anyone mention it here before. Mods: Although technically it relates to a card game (and not an RPG) it is published by Steve Jackson Games, and seems related to this thread. If not, feel free to move it to a more suitable location.

First, some background. Many of you grew up playing the original Illuminati card game in the 80's; or the collectible version, Illuminati: new World Order in the 90's. Both of those games were fun card games about conspiracies vying for world domination. They took an even-handed stance when it came to politics, mildly poking fun at both sides of the aisle. There were cards for both Bill Clinton and Al Gore, as well as Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The new game looks like an expansion that mostly focuses on Covid. While I haven't seen the entirety of the new game—and if you have, please chime in—the cards I see on Ebay are woke and one-sided. Examples:

Black Lives Matter: No artwork. Text reads: "A turning point for society... this card counts as Special. When it is played, keep it on the table like an NWO, but nothing can remove it."

The Wise Doctor: Obviously Dr. Fauci.

USA #1 (in deaths): Probably meant to be Covid deaths (but according to Wikipedia, we're #21.)

Autonomous Zones: Artwork shows happy, diverse, peaceful people behind a barricade with a tent in the background. Alignment is fanatic and liberal, so this probably is meant to represent CHAZ/CHOP.

Mass Demonstrations: Artwork shows happy, diverse, peaceful people wearing masks. (Probably meant to be BLM/Antifa, but it is hard to tell since nothing is on fire.)

Covidiots: Artwork shows angry virus hoaxers. Three are wearing red caps, one is holding a sign about the Bill of Rights. Everyone in the artwork is white.

Pro-virus Rallies: Artwork shows angry people spreading the virus. Five people wearing red caps, everyone in the artwork is white.

That Guy: Although you can't see the figure's face, the orange skin, red tie, and small hands are obviously a thinly-veiled reference to Trump. The card's alignment is: conservative, criminal, and violent.

Statue Smashers: The only card I see ridiculing the Left, making fun of people who indiscriminately topple statues.

Anyone that's talented or creative, the moment they go Woke, that all ends. Because the part of their brain that is now mush, and afraid of their 'friends' shuts down their talent. You end up with UTTER absurdities, like Cards Against Humanity (a game where the entire point is to be shockingly, cartoonishly offensive) removing 110 cards so as to not offend groups, and be on the right side of history.

Some real "Outback Steakhouse goes Vegan" energy.

mudbanks · February 17, 2023, 12:25:36 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 17, 2023, 12:08:36 AM
Anyone that's talented or creative, the moment they go Woke, that all ends. Because the part of their brain that is now mush, and afraid of their 'friends' shuts down their talent. You end up with UTTER absurdities, like Cards Against Humanity (a game where the entire point is to be shockingly, cartoonishly offensive) removing 110 cards so as to not offend groups, and be on the right side of history.

Some real "Outback Steakhouse goes Vegan" energy.

That's insane, I had no idea. I always wondered if those imbeciles at CAH (I never liked them because they're terrible game designers) would ever cave to the woke mob, and if they did, what would they do with their flagship game. Well guess we know now!

Ocule · February 17, 2023, 01:24:43 AM

Quote from: Steeldom on February 16, 2023, 03:28:28 PM
The t-shirt in question:
https://www.redbubble.com/de/i/t-shirt/Blume-Unsere-Körper-unsere-Wahl-Für-Wohltätigkeitszwecke-von-SJ-Games/116922983.VL7OD.XYZ

There's also this corresponding statement:
http://www.sjgames.com/ill/archive/July_08_2022/Roe_v_Wade

I remember these though was hoping to see the Illuminati card descriptions. Holy shit this woulda been instant red. With the Lilith fund shit I was like okay maybe it was a spur of the moment decision got caught up in drama. This is one that irks me I like gurps

Abbo1993 · February 17, 2023, 06:20:24 AM

The fuckers at drivethrurpg just kicked out the Red Room from their site, that's right, they fucking removed a whole company over their last satirical game, this is actually a first even for them.

squirewaldo · February 17, 2023, 09:39:26 AM

Quote from: Abbo1993 on February 17, 2023, 06:20:24 AM
The fuckers at drivethrurpg just kicked out the Red Room from their site, that's right, they fucking removed a whole company over their last satirical game, this is actually a first even for them.

I am having to deal with the same issue. One of my adventure settings has been indefinitely suspended without any explanation other than a vague and non-descript accusation of 'offensive content'. I just don't know what is actually the cause. It has been 4 days and no answer on what the problem is or what I have to do to fix it.
I wonder if the problem has to do with me requesting removal of 'exclusive' status last month? I find it very difficult to believe they would get vengeful against a small publisher like me. Hardly worth their trouble.

Steven Mitchell · February 17, 2023, 10:38:28 AM

Quote from: squirewaldo on February 17, 2023, 09:39:26 AM
I wonder if the problem has to do with me requesting removal of 'exclusive' status last month? I find it very difficult to believe they would get vengeful against a small publisher like me. Hardly worth their trouble.

Don't be too sure. The kind of mindset that engages in these shenanigans is often a mixture of narcissistic, low-cunning, and opportunistic. They'll happily go after a little guy as a test run. Only when that works a few times and the kudos start rolling in from the usual crowd do they go after something bigger. They are at heart cowards who must see themselves as being brave. This is just one aspect of that. Nothing like people who all dress the same to be nonconformist, and then bravely "speak truth to power" with the same lies that their whole crowd voraciously demands.

squirewaldo · February 17, 2023, 11:16:28 AM

Quote from: Steven Mitchell on February 17, 2023, 10:38:28 AM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 17, 2023, 09:39:26 AM
I wonder if the problem has to do with me requesting removal of 'exclusive' status last month? I find it very difficult to believe they would get vengeful against a small publisher like me. Hardly worth their trouble.

Don't be too sure. The kind of mindset that engages in these shenanigans is often a mixture of narcissistic, low-cunning, and opportunistic. They'll happily go after a little guy as a test run. Only when that works a few times and the kudos start rolling in from the usual crowd do they go after something bigger. They are at heart cowards who must see themselves as being brave. This is just one aspect of that. Nothing like people who all dress the same to be nonconformist, and then bravely "speak truth to power" with the same lies that their whole crowd voraciously demands.

Yeah, I am pretty easy low hanging fruit.

Krazz · February 17, 2023, 02:36:23 PM

Quote from: squirewaldo on February 17, 2023, 09:39:26 AM
Quote from: Abbo1993 on February 17, 2023, 06:20:24 AM
The fuckers at drivethrurpg just kicked out the Red Room from their site, that's right, they fucking removed a whole company over their last satirical game, this is actually a first even for them.

I am having to deal with the same issue. One of my adventure settings has been indefinitely suspended without any explanation other than a vague and non-descript accusation of 'offensive content'. I just don't know what is actually the cause. It has been 4 days and no answer on what the problem is or what I have to do to fix it.
I wonder if the problem has to do with me requesting removal of 'exclusive' status last month? I find it very difficult to believe they would get vengeful against a small publisher like me. Hardly worth their trouble.

Red Room appear to have shown a fast track to ending the exclusivity agreement, as long as you're happy being off DriveThru entirely.

squirewaldo · February 17, 2023, 04:37:45 PM

Quote from: Krazz on February 17, 2023, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 17, 2023, 09:39:26 AM
Quote from: Abbo1993 on February 17, 2023, 06:20:24 AM
The fuckers at drivethrurpg just kicked out the Red Room from their site, that's right, they fucking removed a whole company over their last satirical game, this is actually a first even for them.

I am having to deal with the same issue. One of my adventure settings has been indefinitely suspended without any explanation other than a vague and non-descript accusation of 'offensive content'. I just don't know what is actually the cause. It has been 4 days and no answer on what the problem is or what I have to do to fix it.
I wonder if the problem has to do with me requesting removal of 'exclusive' status last month? I find it very difficult to believe they would get vengeful against a small publisher like me. Hardly worth their trouble.

Red Room appear to have shown a fast track to ending the exclusivity agreement, as long as you're happy being off DriveThru entirely.

Yeah, I was wondering if he was just doing a Kanye West to get boot off the site?