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[List] TTRPG Guide to Woke Companies

Started by Ocule, August 03, 2021, 12:26:41 PM

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Ocule

Apologies for double post just posted a big update to the document, as well as started posting changelog info in the stickied thread.
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The Spaniard

Kobold Press is still showing in both Yellow and Red categories.  Seems Red to me.

Ocule

Quote from: The Spaniard on February 11, 2023, 10:29:53 AM
Kobold Press is still showing in both Yellow and Red categories.  Seems Red to me.

I'm on the doc now I'm only seeing it listed once in yellow. I can't edit the original post anymore which is why I use the doc instead. I'll see if pundit can clear up the first page and just have it link to the real one to avoid confusion.

As for kobold press I'll go read up on the drama about them I remember something going on with them recently
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S'mon

Quote from: Ocule on February 11, 2023, 02:15:40 PM
Quote from: The Spaniard on February 11, 2023, 10:29:53 AM
Kobold Press is still showing in both Yellow and Red categories.  Seems Red to me.

I'm on the doc now I'm only seeing it listed once in yellow. I can't edit the original post anymore which is why I use the doc instead. I'll see if pundit can clear up the first page and just have it link to the real one to avoid confusion.

As for kobold press I'll go read up on the drama about them I remember something going on with them recently

They hired a pink haired employee.  ;D
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The Spaniard

Quote from: Ocule on February 11, 2023, 02:15:40 PM
Quote from: The Spaniard on February 11, 2023, 10:29:53 AM
Kobold Press is still showing in both Yellow and Red categories.  Seems Red to me.

I'm on the doc now I'm only seeing it listed once in yellow. I can't edit the original post anymore which is why I use the doc instead. I'll see if pundit can clear up the first page and just have it link to the real one to avoid confusion.

As for kobold press I'll go read up on the drama about them I remember something going on with them recently

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Ocule

Quote from: S'mon on February 11, 2023, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: Ocule on February 11, 2023, 02:15:40 PM
Quote from: The Spaniard on February 11, 2023, 10:29:53 AM
Kobold Press is still showing in both Yellow and Red categories.  Seems Red to me.

I'm on the doc now I'm only seeing it listed once in yellow. I can't edit the original post anymore which is why I use the doc instead. I'll see if pundit can clear up the first page and just have it link to the real one to avoid confusion.

As for kobold press I'll go read up on the drama about them I remember something going on with them recently

They hired a pink haired employee.  ;D

She looks pretty cringe, has she done anything besides overdose on hair dye? Flipping through her Twitter wouldn't be surprised if it was scrubbed prior to hiring announcement.
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FingerRod

Kobold is 100% red. Pinnacle is most certainly not Green. As stated several times, they bent the knee for art used in their Kickstarter, then locked any attempt at feedback on their official forums and refused to give refunds. That is anti-consumer.

Also Gallant Knight has virtual signaled throughout every release over the last several years. From minor stuff like X card to a manifesto about Lovecraft to a "circle all genders that apply" on Tiny d6 Pirates, I believe there is more than enough evidence for Red.

The lesson here is even with this guide, do your research.

Ocule

Quote from: FingerRod on February 11, 2023, 04:32:33 PM
Kobold is 100% red. Pinnacle is most certainly not Green. As stated several times, they bent the knee for art used in their Kickstarter, then locked any attempt at feedback on their official forums and refused to give refunds. That is anti-consumer.

Also Gallant Knight has virtual signaled throughout every release over the last several years. From minor stuff like X card to a manifesto about Lovecraft to a "circle all genders that apply" on Tiny d6 Pirates, I believe there is more than enough evidence for Red.

The lesson here is even with this guide, do your research.

Got any links to any of that? I'm sure it's somewhere in the previous 247 pages but even with the search feature it's not always easy to find.

And yeah the guide isn't perfect but it's a good start to push back i think.
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FingerRod

Sure thing!

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/list-ttrpg-guide-to-woke-companies/msg1213648/?topicseen#msg1213648

That covers PEG. You'll see mudbanks reference another incident, but I do not have receipts for that.

As for GKG, I have both Tiny Cthulhu and Tiny Pirates. I could find a way to send you a picture, if you like.

Ocule

Quote from: FingerRod on February 12, 2023, 08:24:16 AM
Sure thing!

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/list-ttrpg-guide-to-woke-companies/msg1213648/?topicseen#msg1213648

That covers PEG. You'll see mudbanks reference another incident, but I do not have receipts for that.

As for GKG, I have both Tiny Cthulhu and Tiny Pirates. I could find a way to send you a picture, if you like.

Yeah if you can send them over. I had forgotten about that, whole incident. They were invaded by the fucking wokescolds I was hoping they had the balls to keep on. Moved em to yellow only because they at least respect 3rd party creators pretty well. But god fucking damn it.
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Steeldom

Out of curiosity, is there a company that you all would say dug itsself out of the red and back to a consumer friendly behavior, possibly even green?

Ocule

Hmm out of red? I reevaluated one or two I was too harsh on but not yet. I'm actually really hoping this happens. If I had to guess the ones I have the most hope for is modiphious (who I may have been too harsh on), Steve Jackson games and games workshop. GW is just greedy but I get the feeling they're gonna learn the hard way. Still salty about Astartes, and Steve Jackson is barely on red. Only by their own admission of certain politics being inserted hypothetically into their products but honestly I haven't seen them follow through yet. The others would take a miracle.

Any of the yellow companies can reasonably turn it around, they haven't really lost trust yet
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Abbo1993

I have the feeling that Chaosium will be on the red soon...

Hzilong

Quote from: Abbo1993 on February 14, 2023, 05:27:08 AM
I have the feeling that Chaosium will be on the red soon...

I'm mildly shocked it's not there already.
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Abbo1993

Gonna be a sad day, CoC is great, hell, I think I bought every supplement for 7e so far, the wokeness seem to be trace to Lynn Hardy and the entourage of influencers and youtubers that make videos on the Chaosium channel, they had one about safety tools recently, safety tools in a game of cosmic horror... :-\