Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
As an sjw wokescold etc etc, it's cool to see you guys keeping yourselves out of my hobby. If you guys want to restrict yourselves to Giantlands and TSR Hobbies, that's fine by me.

It was cool to see Luke Crane and Dungeon Crawl Classics on the Red list, I love Burning Wheel and DCC but I had honestly always assumed they leaned right. I didn't know they were cool. 

I would definitely recommend Massif Press (LANCER and Icon) for the red list. Very openly leftist, anti-imperialist, etc. The good guys in Lancer are explicitly anti-border communists. The creators are pro-BLM, queer liberation, Palestine, etc, NPCs have pronouns listed next to their names, and there is art where a character has a trans flag sticker on their hardsuit.

  Usually not how it works.  People already have the game they like, and do not need more stuff, and honestly pirating rules is easy for people who want to get rules and play games with dragons and underground labyrinths.  None of the people are playing less, they just will not ever play with you, which keeps everyone happy.  So there is not gatekeeping from hobbies, there is just a fence between two very distinct groups which should make everyone happy.

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
As an sjw wokescold etc etc, it's cool to see you guys keeping yourselves out of my hobby. If you guys want to restrict yourselves to Giantlands and TSR Hobbies, that's fine by me.

It was cool to see Luke Crane and Dungeon Crawl Classics on the Red list, I love Burning Wheel and DCC but I had honestly always assumed they leaned right. I didn't know they were cool. 

I would definitely recommend Massif Press (LANCER and Icon) for the red list. Very openly leftist, anti-imperialist, etc. The good guys in Lancer are explicitly anti-border communists. The creators are pro-BLM, queer liberation, Palestine, etc, NPCs have pronouns listed next to their names, and there is art where a character has a trans flag sticker on their hardsuit.

Ahhh dude, you're months late to this discussion. Did you recently find out about the 'hateful' thread or have you been stewing on this for months and finally decided to sign up and 'own' us?

At any rate, if this were TBP, you would be summarily banned for 'not being a good fit for the board'. So welcome and enjoy however long you want to argue.

Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on April 27, 2022, 09:42:39 AM

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
As an sjw wokescold etc etc, it's cool to see you guys keeping yourselves out of my hobby. If you guys want to restrict yourselves to Giantlands and TSR Hobbies, that's fine by me.

It was cool to see Luke Crane and Dungeon Crawl Classics on the Red list, I love Burning Wheel and DCC but I had honestly always assumed they leaned right. I didn't know they were cool. 

I would definitely recommend Massif Press (LANCER and Icon) for the red list. Very openly leftist, anti-imperialist, etc. The good guys in Lancer are explicitly anti-border communists. The creators are pro-BLM, queer liberation, Palestine, etc, NPCs have pronouns listed next to their names, and there is art where a character has a trans flag sticker on their hardsuit.

Ahhh dude, you're months late to this discussion. Did you recently find out about the 'hateful' thread or have you been stewing on this for months and finally decided to sign up and 'own' us?

At any rate, if this were TBP, you would be summarily banned for 'not being a good fit for the board'. So welcome and enjoy however long you want to argue.

You win the thread, sir

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 07:51:42 PM
You heard me. No good hobby can continue to exist without gatekeeping, you know, and it's good that you guys acknowledge it.

Thankfully. Outside of the online space you've lost. Even in the online space you are losing as more and more individuals grow tired of random asshats forcing politics into everything. The biggest thing that hurt "your Narrative" was people saying Orcs and Drow = PoC then people being dumb enough for going after Tolkien. The woke lost with Starwars and they'll lose with everything else given time.

And I'm not even a hard right individual. Twenty years ago I would be called a staunch Liberal. But people like you keep moving goal posts which is the funniest thing about the whole "culture war". More so then anything, good to hear you gatekeep your own play group, but remember. Despite how many echo chambers you exist in. You'll never be the majority. Now rather then invading the space of others. Why not be a good lad and make your own space like an adult?

Because it's honestly tiresome to see someone claiming to be Left and Liberal then immediately talk about gatekeeping. It's almost like you admitted to being a boot licker or something.

Quote from: Kahoona on April 27, 2022, 11:53:51 AM

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 07:51:42 PM
You heard me. No good hobby can continue to exist without gatekeeping, you know, and it's good that you guys acknowledge it.

Thankfully. Outside of the online space you've lost. Even in the online space you are losing as more and more individuals grow tired of random asshats forcing politics into everything. The biggest thing that hurt "your Narrative" was people saying Orcs and Drow = PoC then people being dumb enough for going after Tolkien. The woke lost with Starwars and they'll lose with everything else given time.

And I'm not even a hard right individual. Twenty years ago I would be called a staunch Liberal. But people like you keep moving goal posts which is the funniest thing about the whole "culture war". More so then anything, good to hear you gatekeep your own play group, but remember. Despite how many echo chambers you exist in. You'll never be the majority. Now rather then invading the space of others. Why not be a good lad and make your own space like an adult?

Because it's honestly tiresome to see someone claiming to be Left and Liberal then immediately talk about gatekeeping. It's almost like you admitted to being a boot licker or something.

  Staunch liberal...well you do realize free speech and opposing war are now hard right positions I hope.  We are all living in clown world.

Quote from: oggsmash on April 27, 2022, 12:12:16 PM

Quote from: Kahoona on April 27, 2022, 11:53:51 AM

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 07:51:42 PM
You heard me. No good hobby can continue to exist without gatekeeping, you know, and it's good that you guys acknowledge it.

Thankfully. Outside of the online space you've lost. Even in the online space you are losing as more and more individuals grow tired of random asshats forcing politics into everything. The biggest thing that hurt "your Narrative" was people saying Orcs and Drow = PoC then people being dumb enough for going after Tolkien. The woke lost with Starwars and they'll lose with everything else given time.

And I'm not even a hard right individual. Twenty years ago I would be called a staunch Liberal. But people like you keep moving goal posts which is the funniest thing about the whole "culture war". More so then anything, good to hear you gatekeep your own play group, but remember. Despite how many echo chambers you exist in. You'll never be the majority. Now rather then invading the space of others. Why not be a good lad and make your own space like an adult?

Because it's honestly tiresome to see someone claiming to be Left and Liberal then immediately talk about gatekeeping. It's almost like you admitted to being a boot licker or something.

  Staunch liberal...well you do realize free speech and opposing war are now hard right positions I hope.  We are all living in clown world.

He's right, though. Because of the way the goalposts have been moved (well, put onto forklifts and driven), a firm devotion to free speech is now a sign that you have alt-right tendencies.

Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on April 27, 2022, 09:42:39 AM
Ahhh dude, you're months late to this discussion. Did you recently find out about the 'hateful' thread or have you been stewing on this for months and finally decided to sign up and 'own' us?

At any rate, if this were TBP, you would be summarily banned for 'not being a good fit for the board'. So welcome and enjoy however long you want to argue.

I literally thanked you guys for self-isolating, and helped you all by giving you another RPG for your list. What's the problem?

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 27, 2022, 04:10:53 PM

Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on April 27, 2022, 09:42:39 AM
Ahhh dude, you're months late to this discussion. Did you recently find out about the 'hateful' thread or have you been stewing on this for months and finally decided to sign up and 'own' us?

At any rate, if this were TBP, you would be summarily banned for 'not being a good fit for the board'. So welcome and enjoy however long you want to argue.

I literally thanked you guys for self-isolating, and helped you all by giving you another RPG for your list. What's the problem?

  Were isolated before, then a bunch of queefs show up and start screeching weasel words.  There is no self isolating from parasites like you.

Lol, liberals are clowns, and the "culture war" is a thing that only exists online and in your nightmares. I'm not the one vetting fantasy expansion books to see whether they have too many women in armor before I play them. Don't forget to burn your Savage Worlds books in protest of the woke agenda, btw.

Quote from: oggsmash on April 27, 2022, 04:12:30 PM
  Were isolated before, then a bunch of queefs show up and start screeching weasel words.  There is no self isolating from parasites like you.

Is this not the place to suggest books that are "political" for your list? If I were you, I'd be thanking me.

Quote from: oggsmash on April 27, 2022, 12:12:16 PM
Staunch liberal...well you do realize free speech and opposing war are now hard right positions I hope.  We are all living in clown world.

It's like I said 20 Years ago that's what I would be called. Today I'm apparently a Far-Right-Neo Extremist who wants to dominate the world with my Evil Freespeech. We truly live in a clown world.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 27, 2022, 01:26:43 PM
He's right, though. Because of the way the goalposts have been moved (well, put onto forklifts and driven), a firm devotion to free speech is now a sign that you have alt-right tendencies.

I'd even go so far as to say put on a plane and fly to the other side of the planet with how insane some arguments have gotten. In the past Liberalism was a thing about freedom. Now it has more in common with Corpatism then even the most die-hard capitalist has. It's like, if you don't subscribe to Extremist Left beliefs you are Far Right. Give it a few more years and Obama will be "Litterly worst then hitler" according to these people.

Quote from: gaiusartemis on April 27, 2022, 08:59:04 AM

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
As an sjw wokescold etc etc, it's cool to see you guys keeping yourselves out of my hobby. If you guys want to restrict yourselves to Giantlands and TSR Hobbies, that's fine by me.

It was cool to see Luke Crane and Dungeon Crawl Classics on the Red list, I love Burning Wheel and DCC but I had honestly always assumed they leaned right. I didn't know they were cool. 

I would definitely recommend Massif Press (LANCER and Icon) for the red list. Very openly leftist, anti-imperialist, etc. The good guys in Lancer are explicitly anti-border communists. The creators are pro-BLM, queer liberation, Palestine, etc, NPCs have pronouns listed next to their names, and there is art where a character has a trans flag sticker on their hardsuit.

Guys, would not be amazing to create an SJW centric TTRPG. In which your character's powers and spells would be centered around ruining franchises and you win experience points by the amount of people you cancel and the amount of money you make a business lose per year? If you make a big company go bankrupt you gain a new level  . Something of the sorts will be hilarious to play in my opinion. Do you think there can be a market for such game or is to niche?

Looks like a troll post, but I could see it as a card game rather than as a rpg.

Quote from: HappyDaze on April 27, 2022, 05:34:18 PM

Quote from: gaiusartemis on April 27, 2022, 08:59:04 AM

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
As an sjw wokescold etc etc, it's cool to see you guys keeping yourselves out of my hobby. If you guys want to restrict yourselves to Giantlands and TSR Hobbies, that's fine by me.

It was cool to see Luke Crane and Dungeon Crawl Classics on the Red list, I love Burning Wheel and DCC but I had honestly always assumed they leaned right. I didn't know they were cool. 

I would definitely recommend Massif Press (LANCER and Icon) for the red list. Very openly leftist, anti-imperialist, etc. The good guys in Lancer are explicitly anti-border communists. The creators are pro-BLM, queer liberation, Palestine, etc, NPCs have pronouns listed next to their names, and there is art where a character has a trans flag sticker on their hardsuit.

Guys, would not be amazing to create an SJW centric TTRPG. In which your character's powers and spells would be centered around ruining franchises and you win experience points by the amount of people you cancel and the amount of money you make a business lose per year? If you make a big company go bankrupt you gain a new level  . Something of the sorts will be hilarious to play in my opinion. Do you think there can be a market for such game or is to niche?

Looks like a troll post, but I could see it as a card game rather than as a rpg.

But don't try selling it on OBS - Fred Hicks will have a fit and threaten to take down all Evil Hat products from DTRPG if it doesn't get pulled.

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 27, 2022, 04:30:58 PM
Lol, liberals are clowns, and the "culture war" is a thing that only exists online and in your nightmares. I'm not the one vetting fantasy expansion books to see whether they have too many women in armor before I play them. Don't forget to burn your Savage Worlds books in protest of the woke agenda, btw.

Quote from: oggsmash on April 27, 2022, 04:12:30 PM
  Were isolated before, then a bunch of queefs show up and start screeching weasel words.  There is no self isolating from parasites like you.

Is this not the place to suggest books that are "political" for your list? If I were you, I'd be thanking me.

   You misunderstand the post I made. 

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 07:51:42 PM
Are you sure your group will feel safe playing those yellow games? You know that money is going to terrorist groups who want to burn down the cheesecake factory in your suburb. Even worse, your group might see brown skin...

As an immigrant to USA in a "mixed-race" marriage, we have quickly come to realize that sjw wokescolds are the most likely to behave weirdly inappropriate around people with brown skin, not conservatives. It may have something to do with refusing to be "color blind", but I fear the creepiness sometimes goes deeper.

Quote from: Trond on April 27, 2022, 10:47:14 PM
As an immigrant to USA in a "mixed-race" marriage, we have quickly come to realize that sjw wokescolds are the most likely to behave weirdly inappropriate around people with brown skin, not conservatives. It may have something to do with refusing to be "color blind", but I fear the creepiness sometimes goes deeper.

Projection is the most common tactic used by these sort's of people.