Quote from: dkabq on January 30, 2022, 06:14:31 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 30, 2022, 01:30:11 PM
Just reread the "humans" entry for my favorite fantasy RPG. It says they can range from pale white to almost black in skin color, but also come in blue, pink, and orange. They range from 3 to 7 feet in height and can weigh up to 500 lbs.

So, are they going a bit far into the fantasy here, or is the technicolor freakshow treatment?

7 ft tall and 5-hundo. Effectively Andre the Giant.

And would the game happen to be Empire of the Petal Throne?

What's the point happyderp is trying to make here?

In Barsoom we see red skinned humans, nothing new here. Unless the differences in height/weight do not grant bonusses penalties I see no possible issue anyone could have with this.

"In this fantasy setting humans fall into these parameters" So?

Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 30, 2022, 07:08:12 PM

Quote from: dkabq on January 30, 2022, 06:14:31 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 30, 2022, 01:30:11 PM
Just reread the "humans" entry for my favorite fantasy RPG. It says they can range from pale white to almost black in skin color, but also come in blue, pink, and orange. They range from 3 to 7 feet in height and can weigh up to 500 lbs.

So, are they going a bit far into the fantasy here, or is the technicolor freakshow treatment?

7 ft tall and 5-hundo. Effectively Andre the Giant.

And would the game happen to be Empire of the Petal Throne?

What's the point happyderp is trying to make here?

In Barsoom we see red skinned humans, nothing new here. Unless the differences in height/weight do not grant bonusses penalties I see no possible issue anyone could have with this.

"In this fantasy setting humans fall into these parameters" So?

I'm tying into some prior conversations. I've seen several say that "freakshit races" are a telltale of woke settings. I'm this case the quarter-ton, orange- or blue-skinned bloatie seems fairly freakish even if they call it human. From what has been shown, the freakishness doesn't have to be based a mechanical bonus/penalty to make it an issue; 5e has actually made it an issue by not assigning fixed bonus (and never penalties) to their freakshit races.

The funniest thing to come from this list was a discussion i heard on a podcast about it.
it's been a while, but went something like, "I think its dangerous. i had people contacting me on twitter after the list came out asking me "should we cancel this person" (referring to someone on the list).
I'd like to note that everyone on this podcast is a self-proclaimed leftist.
His concern was people on the list would unduly draw the ire of a cancel mob, yet never seems to acknowledge which side uses the mob as a weapon. It was a very "who built the cages, Joe?" moment.

This one thread is the reason I joined this forum. Thank you.

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 30, 2022, 01:30:11 PM
Just reread the "humans" entry for my favorite fantasy RPG. It says they can range from pale white to almost black in skin color, but also come in blue, pink, and orange. They range from 3 to 7 feet in height and can weigh up to 500 lbs.

So, are they going a bit far into the fantasy here, or is the technicolor freakshow treatment?

Blue may be a reference to "Papa Smurf", pink to fact that white skin is almost always actually pink, and orange to the Bad Orange Man. So it's possible that it's just a joke, perhaps even at the expense of the woke.

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 30, 2022, 01:30:11 PM
Just reread the "humans" entry for my favorite fantasy RPG. It says they can range from pale white to almost black in skin color, but also come in blue, pink, and orange. They range from 3 to 7 feet in height and can weigh up to 500 lbs.

So, are they going a bit far into the fantasy here, or is the technicolor freakshow treatment?

Ringworld?

Quote from: Cat the Bounty Smuggler on January 30, 2022, 10:17:02 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 30, 2022, 01:30:11 PM
Just reread the "humans" entry for my favorite fantasy RPG. It says they can range from pale white to almost black in skin color, but also come in blue, pink, and orange. They range from 3 to 7 feet in height and can weigh up to 500 lbs.

So, are they going a bit far into the fantasy here, or is the technicolor freakshow treatment?

Blue may be a reference to "Papa Smurf", pink to fact that white skin is almost always actually pink, and orange to the Bad Orange Man. So it's possible that it's just a joke, perhaps even at the expense of the woke.

Here's a cut and paste:

"Humans comprise many different ethnic
groups. Skin tones can range from almost black to albino
white, or green, blue, orange, pink, or something else. Some
humans have patterned skin, stripes, thick body hair, or no
hair at all. Humans also have many different shapes and
sizes. They range from 3 to 7 feet tall and weigh from 50 to 500
pounds or more. Most humans live about seventy years."

So, in addition to the colors I mentioned, there are also green and "something else" along with patterned skins and stripes (which are a pattern...). So, are we to "freakshit" yet, or is this still just typical fantasy humans?

@HappyDaze

In that case I have no idea what they were thinking.

Here's a cut and paste:

"Humans comprise many different ethnic
groups. Skin tones can range from almost black to albino
white, or green, blue, orange, pink, or something else. Some
humans have patterned skin, stripes, thick body hair, or no
hair at all. Humans also have many different shapes and
sizes. They range from 3 to 7 feet tall and weigh from 50 to 500
pounds or more. Most humans live about seventy years."

So, in addition to the colors I mentioned, there are also green and "something else" along with patterned skins and stripes (which are a pattern...). So, are we to "freakshit" yet, or is this still just typical fantasy humans?
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At this point it sounds like they wanted to add furries (Patterned Skin/Stripes/Thick Body Hair) but just didnt have the testicular fortitude to say "Furry"...or some other weird psychosexual fantasy of college age liberals

It is from SotDL. 

I have no idea what point HD is trying to make but based on past history it will be some sort of passive-aggressive 'gotcha' that fits his personality type...

Quote from: moonsweeper on January 31, 2022, 02:22:12 AM
It is from SotDL. 

I have no idea what point HD is trying to make but based on past history it will be some sort of passive-aggressive 'gotcha' that fits his personality type...

Yep, that's the game I got the description of "humans" from. I like the game quite a bit, and the setting is very humanocentric. However, the descriptions of their humans seem quite at odds with most of the artwork and the overall feel of the game line.

I'm curious to know who thinks this is some form of politically motivated inclusion vs those that just think it's basic weird fantasy dressings.

Quote from: moonsweeper on January 31, 2022, 02:22:12 AM
It is from SotDL. 

I have no idea what point HD is trying to make but based on past history it will be some sort of passive-aggressive 'gotcha' that fits his personality type...

SotDL?

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 31, 2022, 02:30:17 AM
I'm curious to know who thinks this is some form of politically motivated inclusion vs those that just think it's basic weird fantasy dressings.

I'll play! Full disclosure, I have never played nor seen SotDL. I cannot tell you anything about the politics of the creator(s). I know people speak highly of the game.

The quoted piece reads to me like basic weird fantasy.

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 31, 2022, 02:30:17 AM

Quote from: moonsweeper on January 31, 2022, 02:22:12 AM
It is from SotDL. 

I have no idea what point HD is trying to make but based on past history it will be some sort of passive-aggressive 'gotcha' that fits his personality type...

Yep, that's the game I got the description of "humans" from. I like the game quite a bit, and the setting is very humanocentric. However, the descriptions of their humans seem quite at odds with most of the artwork and the overall feel of the game line.

I'm curious to know who thinks this is some form of politically motivated inclusion vs those that just think it's basic weird fantasy dressings.

There are people that are 500lbs in weight (although they might not be an adventurer lol), and I happen to know someone nearly 7ft tall, and the blue skin thing is a real thing when you consider the use of medicinal silver solution combined with extremely hereditary genetics such as Paul Karason and the condition of argyria, that bit just isn't common though since medicine has come a long ways

Quote from: Pat on January 30, 2022, 10:58:08 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 30, 2022, 01:30:11 PM
Just reread the "humans" entry for my favorite fantasy RPG. It says they can range from pale white to almost black in skin color, but also come in blue, pink, and orange. They range from 3 to 7 feet in height and can weigh up to 500 lbs.

So, are they going a bit far into the fantasy here, or is the technicolor freakshow treatment?

Ringworld?

Niven usually called the mutant-pak descended peoples of the Ringworld homonids with humans being the ones who settled and survived on Earth and spread out to colonize from there.