Quote from: DocJones on January 16, 2022, 07:54:05 PM
Please attribute who you are quoting.

You mean Grimjim and Venger? But I don't really want to drag them into the conversation tbh. This is just me taking the piss out of that timothe ponce.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on January 16, 2022, 08:03:52 PM

Quote from: DocJones on January 16, 2022, 07:54:05 PM
Please attribute who you are quoting.

You mean Grimjim and Venger? But I don't really want to drag them into the conversation tbh. This is just me taking the piss out of that timothe ponce.

I was responding to Wrath of God not attributing quoted text to myself or yourself then responding by asking questions as if the unattributed quotes might be actually be related to each other.  Since they are two different persons the questions are unanswerable.

P.S. Our group just doesn't play "blue" stuff, so that's always "red" to us regardless of what color it is on  Ocule's list. :-)

Quote from: DocJones on January 16, 2022, 09:04:04 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on January 16, 2022, 08:03:52 PM

Quote from: DocJones on January 16, 2022, 07:54:05 PM
Please attribute who you are quoting.

You mean Grimjim and Venger? But I don't really want to drag them into the conversation tbh. This is just me taking the piss out of that timothe ponce.

I was responding to Wrath of God not attributing quoted text to myself or yourself then responding by asking questions as if the unattributed quotes might be actually be related to each other.  Since they are two different persons the questions are unanswerable.

apologies for the crossed wires there man.

I guess if Bob Bledsaw Jnr is Red for anti-Semitic Facebook posts - there's no anti-Semitism in Judges Guild products - then publicly expressed views by Dee etc that don't feature in their art are fair game.

The whole thing makes me a bit uncomfortable whenever you go beyond the actual product or an official corporate stance to examining the views of the creators. Guess I must be an old fashioned commie pinko liberal. 

Quote from: S'mon on January 17, 2022, 02:43:23 AM
The whole thing makes me a bit uncomfortable whenever you go beyond the actual product or an official corporate stance to examining the views of the creators. Guess I must be an old fashioned commie pinko liberal. 

Indeed... One must be careful to not go full on Stasi or Gestapo. 

Quote from: S'mon on January 17, 2022, 02:43:23 AM
I guess if Bob Bledsaw Jnr is Red for anti-Semitic Facebook posts - there's no anti-Semitism in Judges Guild products - then publicly expressed views by Dee etc that don't feature in their art are fair game.

The whole thing makes me a bit uncomfortable whenever you go beyond the actual product or an official corporate stance to examining the views of the creators. Guess I must be an old fashioned commie pinko liberal. 

Their is a difference between yourself and the so called  modern "Liberals" of today.

Your both willing and listen to opposing views.

Unlike say Jeff Dee who wishes his Republican family members drink piss and die. Why would I ever want to help him if I was one. Let alone care if he becomes fatally I'll. Words and actions have consequences and the SJWs forgot that just for the sake of a few clicks and fellowers.

Quote from: Abraxus on January 17, 2022, 08:23:13 AM
Unlike say Jeff Dee who wishes his Republican family members drink piss and die.

This is what I can't understand... As long as someone isn't obnoxious or vile in their political beliefs. Then surely, politics can just get out of the way when it comes to gaming? As long as people are not assholes I'll play with anyone.

I may disagree with some of my friends political views, but they will always be my friends. Same obviously goes for my family. It seems bizarre to me why one would be so vitriolic just because someone had a different political opinion.Unless it's overbearing and they are actively trying to do you harm.

I know I get flack for saying this yet I wonder more and more if either those who talk like Jeff Dee have some kind of undiagnosed mental condition. Or simply living through the digital world as some kind of edgelord.

If it is the first I'm more sympathetic though not by much as it can be treated and mental illness or not no reason to act like child in an adult body.

The second is kind of sad and pathetic then again their people on Twitter going got therapy because the list X amount of followers so make of that what you will.

In case let say if a family member or close friends house burns down before telling people who disagree with him to drink piss and for. Why would I care let alone give money to help rebuild their house.


It's as if because no one including employers or family say and do nothing about the bad behaviour they lose any capacity to agree with those they disagree.  If I owned a business such edgelordd would be in the street and unemployed within seconds. Fortunately I have no family members close at least that act that way. As for friends I removed any who would tell me that. Or require constant walking on eggshells to be around.

Quote from: S'mon on January 17, 2022, 02:43:23 AM
I guess if Bob Bledsaw Jnr is Red for anti-Semitic Facebook posts - there's no anti-Semitism in Judges Guild products - then publicly expressed views by Dee etc that don't feature in their art are fair game.

The whole thing makes me a bit uncomfortable whenever you go beyond the actual product or an official corporate stance to examining the views of the creators. Guess I must be an old fashioned commie pinko liberal. 

I usually limit my searches to easily accessible public information. Quick search on the usual places such as twatter, Facebook and their blog. And if I realize I've went back too far then I usually just stop. Jan 6 last year seems to be around a good place to stop because that's around when tds goes into full overdrive. Bleddsaw had the unfortunate circumstance of all that becoming public information. In the case of Dee he is very open about his disdain for religious people and anyone who even looks like a conservative. If I liked his art, and I do, then following his Facebook page would easily something I'd do only to be hit in the face with his rhetoric. He doesn't have a separate page for personal and private communications it's just Jeff Dee. If his public page was art and shit and kept his personal page separate where he can tell his Republican family members to drink piss and die then that's between him and his family. But once the information is out there it's hard to remove a stain like that on your name.

I find myself using my own list when I am debating on whether or not to buy a new game. Originally before it actually gaining traction was mostly for myself since I have gamer adhd. I find it I added a company or publisher or whatnot and read what I had to say about em then decide if I still like the game enough to buy it anyway.

Maybe I should change my avatar from an Incubi to an Inquisitor or Archon

Quote from: Abraxus on January 17, 2022, 09:18:31 AM
undiagnosed mental condition. Or simply living through the digital world as some kind of edgelord.

I think anyone that feels the need to impose their will on anyone else is slightly 'unhinged'.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on January 17, 2022, 11:40:33 AM

Quote from: Abraxus on January 17, 2022, 09:18:31 AM
undiagnosed mental condition. Or simply living through the digital world as some kind of edgelord.

I think anyone that feels the need to impose their will on anyone else is slightly 'unhinged'.

Welcome to the libertarian (little l) side of the political compass and perhaps the Libertarian (big L) political party (if you are in the USA). :-)

Quote from: Howard on January 17, 2022, 01:28:02 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on January 17, 2022, 11:40:33 AM

Quote from: Abraxus on January 17, 2022, 09:18:31 AM
undiagnosed mental condition. Or simply living through the digital world as some kind of edgelord.

I think anyone that feels the need to impose their will on anyone else is slightly 'unhinged'.

Welcome to the libertarian (little l) side of the political compass and perhaps the Libertarian (big L) political party (if you are in the USA). :-)

Big L in the USA are a bunch of sellouts

Quote from: Ocule on January 17, 2022, 02:22:57 PM

Quote from: Howard on January 17, 2022, 01:28:02 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on January 17, 2022, 11:40:33 AM

Quote from: Abraxus on January 17, 2022, 09:18:31 AM
undiagnosed mental condition. Or simply living through the digital world as some kind of edgelord.

I think anyone that feels the need to impose their will on anyone else is slightly 'unhinged'.

Welcome to the libertarian (little l) side of the political compass and perhaps the Libertarian (big L) political party (if you are in the USA). :-)

Big L in the USA are a bunch of sellouts

Mises Caucus seems promising. Their current track record, yeah, not as libertarian as they should and too much authoritarian.

Quote from: RPGPundit on January 02, 2022, 05:54:31 AM
the only Mongoose game mentioned is Paranoia; is there any sign that any of Mongoose's other products are "woke"?
Because I know that Paranoia's creator Allan Varney is a raging progressive liberal. It might be that he, or that some of the people working on this particular project, were the ones with creative control to make this, but that this is not a company-wide policy.

They pushed out an update to 2nd  edition Mongoose Traveller to change pronouns.

Quote from: Ocule on January 17, 2022, 02:22:57 PM
Big L in the USA are a bunch of sellouts

What or who is Big L?