Quote from: Wrath of God on October 28, 2021, 12:24:04 PM
Dear lord, this thread is going on for some time.
Is version on 1st post - actual stance of Ocule, or are there edited versions later?

Check the link in his Sig. I believe the list in the first post could only be edited for a limited amount of time after being posted, so there's a Google Doc.

Pundit has, from time to time and with Ocule's buyin, updated the local list in the 1st post.

The docs version is probably more up to date at any given time (if Ocule has made any edits), but at this point the updates seem rare.

Hopefully Ocule has properly secured the document this time.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 28, 2021, 03:19:08 PM
Hopefully Ocule has properly secured the document this time.

Last time I checked, default was read only instead of read + suggest (or maybe edit?) mode that caused the problem.

Certainly no unhelpful edits when I was there researching something.

Quote from: amacris on October 23, 2021, 08:13:17 PM
hoshisabi -- I've noticed that at several points in this discussion you've asked philosophical questions about the list. I didn't create the list and I don't know the criteria that were used, but I think there is a coherent philosophical justification for the decisions that explains some of the edge cases like Tenkar.

So, reading through your justification could provide a framework to categorize -- but it's not the one used by Ocule or others on this forum. And honestly, I may not entirely agree with it, I do appreciate you walking me through it.

I've kind of taken a break from the thread, sooo many things that talk about the left as if its one big group with all the same motivations, and it makes me wanna argue, but this ain't my place.

So I mean, I did make my points, and I felt like some folks at least listened to me. And I appreciate that you hashed it out, that's pretty much all I wanted to have happened. I'm gonna try to back out a little, this ain't my home, and I appreciate the moment to post a bit, but I'll let you guys return to your scheduled programming.

Quote from: hoshisabi on October 28, 2021, 07:28:34 PM

Quote from: amacris on October 23, 2021, 08:13:17 PM
hoshisabi -- I've noticed that at several points in this discussion you've asked philosophical questions about the list. I didn't create the list and I don't know the criteria that were used, but I think there is a coherent philosophical justification for the decisions that explains some of the edge cases like Tenkar.

So, reading through your justification could provide a framework to categorize -- but it's not the one used by Ocule or others on this forum. And honestly, I may not entirely agree with it, I do appreciate you walking me through it.

I've kind of taken a break from the thread, sooo many things that talk about the left as if its one big group with all the same motivations, and it makes me wanna argue, but this ain't my place.

So I mean, I did make my points, and I felt like some folks at least listened to me. And I appreciate that you hashed it out, that's pretty much all I wanted to have happened. I'm gonna try to back out a little, this ain't my home, and I appreciate the moment to post a bit, but I'll let you guys return to your scheduled programming.

I don't agree with you on a lot, but you made a few valid points, and you've made arguments rather than just shouting things or making demands. That's a positive. The world needs more people with different opinions who are still willing to talk to each other.

Greetings!

Burn them. Burn them all. The ones that manage to escape the fires, get a rope, and let them swing. HANG 'EM HIGH!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on October 28, 2021, 08:36:02 PM
Greetings!

Burn them. Burn them all. The ones that manage to escape the fires, get a rope, and let them swing. HANG 'EM HIGH!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

You might want to change your sig to Semper Pendet, Judge Bean.

Make sure you add TSR's AD&D 2nd Edition. It was the FIRST woke game as it dropped demons & angels because the 700 Club called the game "Satanic".

Lorraine Williams, esquire.

Quote from: Pat on October 28, 2021, 09:37:14 PM

Quote from: SHARK on October 28, 2021, 08:36:02 PM
Greetings!

Burn them. Burn them all. The ones that manage to escape the fires, get a rope, and let them swing. HANG 'EM HIGH!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

You might want to change your sig to Semper Pendet, Judge Bean.

Greetings!

"Semper Pendet?"

Judge Bean! *Laughing*

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Theory of Games on October 28, 2021, 10:45:38 PM
Make sure you add TSR's AD&D 2nd Edition. It was the FIRST woke game as it dropped demons & angels because the 700 Club called the game "Satanic".

Lorraine Williams, esquire.

Old '90s TSR should definitely be Red, if they invent a time machine and come forward into the future!! 

I haven't been that into gaming conventions, but I do wonder if it is worthwhile taking some time to make a list of the conventions being run by woke people as well, and those that aren't, maybe my problem is just that I haven't actually gotten to game with people who aren't insane at conventions.

The dude behind the "War In Christmas Village" got into heated, angry political rants on FB last year, so if that's a big enough company, (it sells on Amazon) it would count.
Citations needed, though, and I'm no longer on FB.

Quote from: DM_Curt on October 29, 2021, 10:43:47 AM
The dude behind the "War In Christmas Village" got into heated, angry political rants on FB last year, so if that's a big enough company, (it sells on Amazon) it would count.

Amazon selling something has no relation to a big company. Anyone could write a book and publish it there.

Quote from: kreegan on October 28, 2021, 11:16:59 AM
I am 99% sure that "extortion" email came from someone at nu-TSR. The Twitteratzis don't give warnings and they certainly don't "look out" for anyone not in their tribe. It's outrage marketing by nu-TSR trying to make themselves look like martyrs.

I absolutely assure you that they did in fact send threatening letters in the past to people associated with me, trying to get them to denounce, ban, deplatform or censor me.

So I have no reason to disbelieve that they would do so in this case.