I absolutely love this list. And while watching Inappropriate Characters I know the worry is it becomes a black list.....oh sorry can't say that.... it becomes a cancel list, I just really am looking at not supporting companies that truly hate me.

I'll buy a product if it's really good and politics free. But I won't buy something from those who hate me or pander to the woke crowd (WotC is the poster child who will get eaten from within).

Another nudge for a Green list for Far Future Enterprises, Marc Miller's current outfit that publishes Traveller 5th edition and legacy GDW stuff. I have never heard of Miller expressing SJW views.

Chaosium
Chaosium has Lynne Hardy who labelled Masks of Nyarlathotep as racist and therefore Larry DiTillo as racist also.  She did this while acting as Chaosium's political commissar on the 7e version of Masks the results of which were BLM supporting additions and gender and race swapping NPCs to conform to woke quotas.

In the Berlin the Wicked City the author David Larkins states "This is all to say, having an LGBTQI investigator in the group is not only possible but probable" It also pushes the Gay fascism conspiracy theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_fascism. The default time is set in the early to mid 20s before the rise of the Nazis and Soviet organized street violence is down played to both side where at it. I am sure the above statements will garner an accusation that I am an Nazi by the usual leftest wankers like The Parker Shiter so here is my disclaimer.  Nazi's and all totalitarian socialists are assholes.  I have zero issue with LGBTI etc etc pc's but I do have issue with game company mandates on pcs based on ideology.   

In RuneQuest Glorthana they are progressively removing white people. At first the Pelorians were to remain pale but given recent artwork I doubt that.  I think the only one that could still be white are Ygg Islanders who are a sort of Scandinavian   people.  But since the Opening of the  seas most of them have left the island as Wolf Pirates and have now thoroughly mixed with other cultures.  Cults (and game mechanics) have been rewritten to please the leftest females around Jeff Richards as well.

I definitely think the Choasium is a border line Yellow/Red especially given them throwing Sandy Petersen under the bus on social media despite official response on this forum that Chaosium has people with wide ranging viewpoints that are supported by the company. What should tip them over is Pendragon 6e given that David Larkins is heading this up and there have been calls for all NPCS to be a 50%/50% gender split and it's a given that female knights will be mandated.

I will dig out the Pelgrane Press references  later along with suggestions for Call of Cthulhu licensors

Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on August 31, 2021, 12:02:14 AM
I absolutely love this list. And while watching Inappropriate Characters I know the worry is it becomes a black list.....oh sorry can't say that.... it becomes a cancel list, I just really am looking at not supporting companies that truly hate me.

I'll buy a product if it's really good and politics free. But I won't buy something from those who hate me or pander to the woke crowd (WotC is the poster child who will get eaten from within).

I love this because the Left hates it.  The funny thing is, it works positively for both sides since if you are Wokeified, all you have to do is patronize the "red label" publishers, and avoid the green ones.

But we all know that the Left disdains freedom of choice so it is hilarious to watch them squirm and squeal when they see how many people don't choose what the Left wants.

Quote from: RPGPundit on August 30, 2021, 09:22:20 PM

Quote from: SvebianFeels on August 30, 2021, 06:39:07 PM

A Thousand Thousand Islands (eponymous zine series): Zedeck Siew has a big chip on his shoulder about colonialism in Southeast Asia and seems not too fond of westerners in general. His work is focuses on his own culture so I'd maybe give it a pass.

He doesn't deserve a pass. His stuff is communist and anti-western. He's engaged in attacks against me on twitter.

What hurt more, when he called you a sad racist or when he dunked on your pipe smoker cred?
I only read the first two zines so I don't know where you pulled the 'communist and anti-western' stuff from. Not that I would be overly surprised.

 Pelgrane Press

Not sure why Pelgrane Press need the special requirement of exact citations to be on the list but anyway.

"Straight White Guys make great  Punching Bags" comes from Cthulhu  Confidential thi has been discussed on this forum including replies from Pelgrane's Political Commisar.   

In the Trail of Cthulhu scenario Dreaming of a better tomorrow for 30 dollars a month in Out of The Woods  a scenario set in Vermont Spivey states that to demonstrate how racist white people were at the time   White NPCs will focus their attacks on the black characters. Chris Spivey(more on him later) the author of this scenario's version of the  twenties is that the whole country had all of the so called  Jim Crow laws and every white person apart from leftests were full on card carrying members of the KKK.

This one should really be for The Design Mechanism but the rules are Gumshoe and licensed by Pelgrane so I am sure if they didn't agree  with it they would have pull the licence.  In Casting the Runes a RPG based on the supernatural fiction of MR James the author Jerry Boucher has to say.

"... Casting the Runes, by focusing on its strictly Jamesian fictional territory, is able to conveniently skip over the fact that its age of Edwardian equipoise was balanced on the backs of 412 million Imperial "citizens," or 23% of the world's population c. 1913."

Of course he also postulates that M R James was gay. Something that is becoming all too common with leftest interpretations of historical figures if there wasn't vast quantities of evidence that they were straight then they were obviously gay.

Quote from: Ocule on August 30, 2021, 11:48:02 AM

• Kobold Press Guide to game mastering has a whole section telling the reader to "check your privilege"

I have three Kobold Press monster books, and a ton of adventures by them. Not seen anything woke in any of them, and KP have been attacked by SJWs for the several 'seductive female' type predator monsters in Tome of Beasts. If the only wokeness is in the one book then I'd suggest Yellow.

Edit: This appears to be a book of essays "Featuring essays by Keith Baker, Wolfgang Baur, David "Zeb" Cook, Frank Mentzer, Shanna Germain, Monica Valentinelli, Steve Winter, and many other game professionals" - https://koboldpress.com/kpstore/product/kobold-guide-to-gamemastering/ - some of those people are wokesters, some aren't. You're likely to see a lot of difference in tone.

Sasquatch Studio - not seen anything woke from them, Rich Baker seems a decent bloke. Suggest Green. http://www.sasquatchgamestudio.com/ Albeit they seem pretty dormant.

Roll20 - the constant Support & Fund BLM https://blog.roll20.net/posts/black-lives-matter/ Buy Thirsty Swords Lesbians, etc announcements get pretty tiring. They seem in line with WoTC & Paizo. Suggest Red.

Made some updates to the last list post, removed monte cook from yellow since they appeared twice. Added in some of the mentioned suggestions with quotes. Also damn, I didn't realize chaosium fell that far down the shit hole. Did they like not even wait for the creator's body to get cold before pushing all that stuff or did they did it before he kicked the bucket?

I need to watch the latest episode of inappropriate characters seems it drew more attention to this thread.

Quote from: Svenhelgrim on August 31, 2021, 07:57:37 AM

Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on August 31, 2021, 12:02:14 AM
I absolutely love this list. And while watching Inappropriate Characters I know the worry is it becomes a black list.....oh sorry can't say that.... it becomes a cancel list, I just really am looking at not supporting companies that truly hate me.

I'll buy a product if it's really good and politics free. But I won't buy something from those who hate me or pander to the woke crowd (WotC is the poster child who will get eaten from within).

I love this because the Left hates it.  The funny thing is, it works positively for both sides since if you are Wokeified, all you have to do is patronize the "red label" publishers, and avoid the green ones.

But we all know that the Left disdains freedom of choice so it is hilarious to watch them squirm and squeal when they see how many people don't choose what the Left wants.

Do you actually have any idea of how left-leaning gamers think? My left-leaning friend doesn't hate it at all. He just laughs at it and those composing it and finds it to be pathetic virtue signaling. We both share that view even though we disagree on a lot.

Quote from: HappyDaze on August 31, 2021, 10:06:19 AM

Quote from: Svenhelgrim on August 31, 2021, 07:57:37 AM

Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on August 31, 2021, 12:02:14 AM
I absolutely love this list. And while watching Inappropriate Characters I know the worry is it becomes a black list.....oh sorry can't say that.... it becomes a cancel list, I just really am looking at not supporting companies that truly hate me.

I'll buy a product if it's really good and politics free. But I won't buy something from those who hate me or pander to the woke crowd (WotC is the poster child who will get eaten from within).

I love this because the Left hates it.  The funny thing is, it works positively for both sides since if you are Wokeified, all you have to do is patronize the "red label" publishers, and avoid the green ones.

But we all know that the Left disdains freedom of choice so it is hilarious to watch them squirm and squeal when they see how many people don't choose what the Left wants.

Do you actually have any idea of how left-leaning gamers think? My left-leaning friend doesn't hate it at all. He just laughs at it and those composing it and finds it to be pathetic virtue signaling. We both share that view even though we disagree on a lot.

Ah! The sound of your squeals!

Quote from: Svenhelgrim on August 31, 2021, 10:11:22 AM

Quote from: HappyDaze on August 31, 2021, 10:06:19 AM

Quote from: Svenhelgrim on August 31, 2021, 07:57:37 AM

Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on August 31, 2021, 12:02:14 AM
I absolutely love this list. And while watching Inappropriate Characters I know the worry is it becomes a black list.....oh sorry can't say that.... it becomes a cancel list, I just really am looking at not supporting companies that truly hate me.

I'll buy a product if it's really good and politics free. But I won't buy something from those who hate me or pander to the woke crowd (WotC is the poster child who will get eaten from within).

I love this because the Left hates it.  The funny thing is, it works positively for both sides since if you are Wokeified, all you have to do is patronize the "red label" publishers, and avoid the green ones.

But we all know that the Left disdains freedom of choice so it is hilarious to watch them squirm and squeal when they see how many people don't choose what the Left wants.

Do you actually have any idea of how left-leaning gamers think? My left-leaning friend doesn't hate it at all. He just laughs at it and those composing it and finds it to be pathetic virtue signaling. We both share that view even though we disagree on a lot.

Ah! The sound of your squeals!

I'm trying to speak your language.

Quote from: SvebianFeels on August 31, 2021, 08:51:33 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on August 30, 2021, 09:22:20 PM

Quote from: SvebianFeels on August 30, 2021, 06:39:07 PM

A Thousand Thousand Islands (eponymous zine series): Zedeck Siew has a big chip on his shoulder about colonialism in Southeast Asia and seems not too fond of westerners in general. His work is focuses on his own culture so I'd maybe give it a pass.

He doesn't deserve a pass. His stuff is communist and anti-western. He's engaged in attacks against me on twitter.

What hurt more, when he called you a sad racist or when he dunked on your pipe smoker cred?
I only read the first two zines so I don't know where you pulled the 'communist and anti-western' stuff from. Not that I would be overly surprised.

Is that you, Zedeck?

Anyways, he's the obviously racist one, and his little story was a lie. Or more accurately, a misrepresentation, because it was a reference to a thread where I point out that the way Holmes is depicted as a pipe smoker on film is not like how it's portrayed in the books. I remember the thread, but I don't remember his involvement in it, or him at all until he went at me on Twitter; which shows you who is obsessed over who. As usual, the SJWs are constantly remembering their encounters with me as life-defining in their hobby, while to me with very few exceptions, it's just Tuesday.

Quote from: Gagarth on August 31, 2021, 07:06:58 AM
Chaosium
Chaosium has Lynne Hardy who labelled Masks of Nyarlathotep as racist and therefore Larry DiTillo as racist also.  She did this while acting as Chaosium's political commissar on the 7e version of Masks the results of which were BLM supporting additions and gender and race swapping NPCs to conform to woke quotas.

In the Berlin the Wicked City the author David Larkins states "This is all to say, having an LGBTQI investigator in the group is not only possible but probable" It also pushes the Gay fascism conspiracy theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_fascism. The default time is set in the early to mid 20s before the rise of the Nazis and Soviet organized street violence is down played to both side where at it. I am sure the above statements will garner an accusation that I am an Nazi by the usual leftest wankers like The Parker Shiter so here is my disclaimer.  Nazi's and all totalitarian socialists are assholes.  I have zero issue with LGBTI etc etc pc's but I do have issue with game company mandates on pcs based on ideology.   

In RuneQuest Glorthana they are progressively removing white people. At first the Pelorians were to remain pale but given recent artwork I doubt that.  I think the only one that could still be white are Ygg Islanders who are a sort of Scandinavian   people.  But since the Opening of the  seas most of them have left the island as Wolf Pirates and have now thoroughly mixed with other cultures.  Cults (and game mechanics) have been rewritten to please the leftest females around Jeff Richards as well.

I definitely think the Choasium is a border line Yellow/Red especially given them throwing Sandy Petersen under the bus on social media despite official response on this forum that Chaosium has people with wide ranging viewpoints that are supported by the company. What should tip them over is Pendragon 6e given that David Larkins is heading this up and there have been calls for all NPCS to be a 50%/50% gender split and it's a given that female knights will be mandated.

I will dig out the Pelgrane Press references  later along with suggestions for Call of Cthulhu licensors

DAMN!

I figured this would be inevitable when they first started retconning Glorantha to make the Sartarites less Celtic, and more Mediterrainian. I had no clue they went this far down the road.

This really sucks. I've been a fan of the company since around 1981 when I picked up my first copy of RuneQuest 2nd edition. The BRP system is brilliant, and Pendragon a masterwork. However if what you've posted is correct, it will mutate from Masterwork to Master WOKE. I have been planning on the next campaign to be Pendragon, and 3 of my 5 players are female, so I was wondering how I was going to do that, and still be "authentic".I'm not opposed to female knights, but don't tell me I HAVE to do it.

Quote from: HappyDaze on August 31, 2021, 10:06:19 AM
Do you actually have any idea of how left-leaning gamers think? My left-leaning friend doesn't hate it at all. He just laughs at it and those composing it and finds it to be pathetic virtue signaling. We both share that view even though we disagree on a lot.

Well. See, here's the problem. It seems the arguments aren't created equal. What I mean is I can trot out my disabled friend who thinks the combat wheelchair is stupid, or my black friend who thinks the whole orcs are black debate is moronic. But when I do I get, well those are just anecdotal and not representative. So, which is it? Apparently, by that logic, you're one friend means jack as well right?