[List] TTRPG Guide to Woke Companies

Korgoth · August 09, 2021, 08:07:31 PM

It's the same armour style as on the men, look at the dude in the back left.
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/60010299029_EngAoSWarriorGroup01.jpg

HappyDaze · August 09, 2021, 09:50:11 PM

Quote from: 1989 on August 09, 2021, 07:30:41 PM
Boob armour is unavoidable on the troops and the leader has the narrow waist of a woman.

And this is a problem why? Newsflash: Stormcast Eternals are not a historical army and they don't have any males-only rules. If you can't handle a few modeled as female, crawl back into a safe space and pet your emotional support animal of choice.

1989 · August 10, 2021, 12:54:24 AM

Quote from: Primarch_XI on August 09, 2021, 08:07:31 PM
It's the same armour style as on the men, look at the dude in the back left.
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/60010299029_EngAoSWarriorGroup01.jpg

Yes, the one on the front left has it more pronounced. Still, though, this is obviously a female model.

If you use the 360-degree spinner for that model, you'll see that it is not the same as the male armour.

1989 · August 10, 2021, 01:05:18 AM

Quote from: HappyDaze on August 09, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
Quote from: 1989 on August 09, 2021, 07:30:41 PM
Boob armour is unavoidable on the troops and the leader has the narrow waist of a woman.
And this is a problem why? Newsflash: Stormcast Eternals are not a historical army and they don't have any males-only rules. If you can't handle a few modeled as female, crawl back into a safe space and pet your emotional support animal of choice.

Let me spell this out for you because you are either disingenuous or fucking stupid, having missed the entire point of the thread.

The problem is not female models (I have an entire Sisters of Battle army, myself).

The problem is the motive behind inserting them here in this instance.

It's diversity/feminist-pandering. Female quota for the sake of quota.

Semaj Khan · August 10, 2021, 01:24:21 AM

Quote from: 1989 on August 10, 2021, 01:05:18 AM

The problem is not female models (I have an entire Sisters of Battle army, myself).

I too favor the Nuns With Guns.

I like you.

myleftnut · August 10, 2021, 03:31:33 AM

Female Stormcast is a good move IMO. The number of customers gained from women buying the models outweighs any potential loss of the dudes who have that much of a problem with it. I assume anyway. Who cares? That's not woke to me.

palaeomerus · August 10, 2021, 06:08:51 AM

Female Stormcast happened way back with Neave BlackTalon in the vanguard rangers and she was before the Soul Wars AoS 2nd edition came out, after the war of the gates and the Godbeasts thing and at the start of the Plague Wars where Nurgle was bothering the Sylvaneth so Sigmar made a bunch of Stormcast scouts and cavalry to act as a rapid reaction force and stay in theater. Not sure that makes much sense when they teleport in on lightning but whatever.

HappyDaze · August 10, 2021, 07:30:41 AM

Quote from: 1989 on August 10, 2021, 01:05:18 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 09, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
Quote from: 1989 on August 09, 2021, 07:30:41 PM
Boob armour is unavoidable on the troops and the leader has the narrow waist of a woman.
And this is a problem why? Newsflash: Stormcast Eternals are not a historical army and they don't have any males-only rules. If you can't handle a few modeled as female, crawl back into a safe space and pet your emotional support animal of choice.

Let me spell this out for you because you are either disingenuous or fucking stupid, having missed the entire point of the thread.

The problem is not female models (I have an entire Sisters of Battle army, myself).

The problem is the motive behind inserting them here in this instance.

It's diversity/feminist-pandering. Female quota for the sake of quota.

Ok, any women in your little army figs is too much for you. Got it. You have issues, buddy, and I thank you for making them so obvious to all.

Godsmonkey · August 10, 2021, 08:15:26 AM

Quote from: 1989 on August 10, 2021, 01:05:18 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 09, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
Quote from: 1989 on August 09, 2021, 07:30:41 PM
Boob armour is unavoidable on the troops and the leader has the narrow waist of a woman.
And this is a problem why? Newsflash: Stormcast Eternals are not a historical army and they don't have any males-only rules. If you can't handle a few modeled as female, crawl back into a safe space and pet your emotional support animal of choice.

Let me spell this out for you because you are either disingenuous or fucking stupid, having missed the entire point of the thread.

The problem is not female models (I have an entire Sisters of Battle army, myself).

The problem is the motive behind inserting them here in this instance.

It's diversity/feminist-pandering. Female quota for the sake of quota.

Is it though?

I know at my table for example, half the players are female. As a GM, I welcome any set of minis (Either premade, or, for me, 3D files to print myself) that has gender diversity.

It's not a historically accurate army, it's fantasy. If it's pandering to recognize the need for female minis, especially since there are more women playing RPGs than ever before, then so be it.

In my eyes, it's just good old capitalism; recognizing a market, and making a product people will buy.

Ocule · August 10, 2021, 11:55:49 AM

Also someone mentioned earlier Gallant Knight Games threatening to punch someone in the face at a con, any links or or sources on that?

Slambo · August 10, 2021, 01:09:57 PM

Kobold press should be in red. Their guide to gamemastering has s whole se tion on checking your privilege

RandyB · August 10, 2021, 01:19:02 PM

It can be tough to distinguish between True Believers in Woke and those who take on protective camouflage. The latter are a better fit for Yellow than Red where the distinction can be made.

Ocule · August 10, 2021, 01:45:45 PM

Weird I can no longer modify the original post.
Red

Kobold Press Guide to game mastering has a whole section telling the reader to "check your privilege"

I'll need to figure out a way or repost it when it is complete.

Ocule · August 10, 2021, 02:07:52 PM

Updated List

Green
Not Woke or Indifferent

RPG Pundit (Lion and Dragon, Arrows of Indra, Dark Albion): Historical fiction and stays true to the mindset of the times. See his YT channel. Might create a new category here for anti sjw.
Troll Lord Games (Castles and Crusades/Siege Engine) Supports vets with big discounts, generally stays apolitical.
Studio Agate/Shadows of Esteren No indication of any affiliation. Decent game, takes forever to fill kickstarters though.
Precis Intermedia: "Makers of the Genre Diversion System and a publisher of any other games. Never seen anything woke from them, and the owner seems like a really cool, level-headed guy"
Autarch/ACKS Definitely not woke
Necrotic Gnome (Old School Essentials) Makes a point to be apolitical
Basic Fantasy Also keeps politics separate from products
OSRIC Hasn't given any indication of getting political
Whitebox: FMAG No indication of getting poltical
Goblinoid Games (Labyrinth Lord) No indication of getting political
Frog God Games/Swords and Wizardry Did a bit of pandering with an all female printing of Swords and Wizardry, suspect but worth noting.
Post Mortem Studios (Tales of Gor, Punk RPG, Grimdark) Visit the storefront, can't imagine them giving a shit what people think
Palladium Does what they have always done, make gonzo worlds
North Wind Adventures (Astonishing Swordsman and Sorcerers of Hyperborea) Hired some woke artist, but otherwise seems faithful to AD&D. Doesnt Appear to get preachy
Kort'thalis Publishing/Venger Satanis (Alpha Blue, Cha'alt) Anti SJW
Peterson Games (Cthulhu Mythos among others) They tried to cancel him for thinking that men shouldn't compete in women's sports. Seems like a genuinely nice dude
Riot Minds (Trudvang, Lex Occultum) Does not appear to be political, you can get their proprietary system or the D&D adaptation or adopt the setting to your own system. It's a beautiful setting with outstanding artwork.
Lamentations of the Flame Princess Edgelords, cannot be contained. They were on the receiving end of the cancel mob and twiterati for a while.
For Gold and Glory Nothing to suggest going woke, seems indifferent.
Immersive Ink (Delving Deeper) Indifferent
Sine Nomine (Scarlet Heroes, Stars Without Number Indifferent
Symbaroum Haven't seen anything political from them

Yellow
Sort of Woke or Panders- If it's there it's subtle. They "bend the knee" to the grifters, or maybe they themselves are woke

Catalyst Game Labs (Shadowrun) Giving them the benefit of the doubt for now unless someone shows otherwise but this was posted last year https://www.catalystgamelabs.com/2020/06/11/catalyst-game-labs-statement-on-social-justice/
Fantasy Flight Games Hard to decide if it belongs here or just in the woke catagory. They gender and race swap characters, ban words that might be considered offensive like Banzai, and generally allow the woke mob to take over the forums and run away with their trade dress etc. They dont constantly harass potential customers and tell them how much they hate em at least.
Talsorian Games Mixed Bag imo, they lean really heavily into IDIC (Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations) it's on their page rules. Lots of pronouns in bios, They havn't gone full crazy just yet
Goodman Games - Tried to protect itself by distancing itself from Judges Guild and donating to ADL. Other than that can't really find anything else on them. Praised BLM for a time
Chaosium Changed in world lore to be more for Runequest, some censorship and bending to BLM/GLBT+ demands
Monte Cook Games Poor Monte, used to make some good stuff. Tends to push things like consent forms in gaming, some stuff on mental illness but otherwise panders
Mongoose Games Had a don't be a dick section in paranoia, recommended by poster. Open for debate whether yellow or green
Modiphious Publishes some woke products, but doesn't seem to only publish woke products
Pinnacle Entertainment (Savage Worlds/Deadlands) Removed the CSA from Deadlands and removed a lot of the old art that might offend anyone particuarly anything with partial nudity or more risque outfits. Also made sure there weren't "too many white guys" in their core rulebook. Still pretty solid but they pander or cave to demands occasionally
Hero Games Hires sensitivity readers
GURPs/Steve Jackson Games Banned by rpg net for not being woke, though some of the devs might be. Steven Jackson signed onto october surprise, so he did come down with a case of TDS
Free League Standard "Gaming is for everyone" spiel, could go either way. Published forbidden lands, which slips in some anti woke themes. Yellow leaning Green
Atlas Games (Ars Magica) President of Atlas-Games has total TDS and is another blue checkmark. Unsure of how badly it shows in there games. For now its yellow bordering on red.
Edge Studios Acquired all of FFG rpg line, they toe the standard line and employ quite a few hardcore sjws
Reaper Miniatures Had some drama about an employee getting into a fight with some antifa sympathizer. Read this and make up your own mind https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/6txuht/reaper_miniatures_may_have_fired_a_guy_for_shit/

Red
Woke,These people probably despise you if you don't fall in line and they aren't afraid to let you know it.

Wizards of the Coast - Harasses customers, diversity checkboxes, hires based on race, pedo judges, bans anyone they disagree with on social issues from all sanctioned events. True dumpster fire.
Paizo- Has whole pages in their books telling you how you must play there game and be inclusive. Harasses customers, aggressively moderates forums against anyone to the right of stalin, Retconned Golarion lore to be more inclusive, starfinder even had an adventure where you needed to get a professor at a university to apologize for being insensitive despite being factually correct. No lie, first adventure path. Another AP for Pathfinder showed all men as incompetent, read like a tumblr blog and all the women were super powerful and if you didnt bring the black, lesbian, disabled ranger with you then you automatically lost. Iron Gods or something like that.
Zweihander/Grim and Perilous Games- Freakin Dumpster Fire,
Cubicle 7 - Not as bad as the others on this list, they're definitely woke. Their art design generally shows it, having extremely odd choices for portraits in warhammer fantasy line and ignoring in world cultural practices like female dwarven artisans arent generally a thing. Ticks diversity checkboxes, pronouns in the bio. I havn't seen them harassing customers yet so that's a win.
Renegade Game Studios/Vampire the Masquerade 5e Not sure where to start with these guys, woke in their products and openly hate you
Onyx Path Publishing/Chronicles of Darkness
New White Wolf Publishing Not sure if they're still around, see Mophidious and Onyx Path they're all sister companies.
Green Ronin- Chris Pramas is a full-on member of ANTIFA, has a vitriolic hatred for white people, and his products reflect this. Publishes "Blue Rose", the gay RPG
Monkey House Games/Jeff Dee: Enormous asshole and activist. If you are republican or conservative or Christian this hates you.
Evil Hat Productions- Another poster child for woke gaming. Embedded in everything from their forums, to their products and staff. Openly tells you if you don't like their politics don't buy their games. Too easy
Ockult Ortmastare Games/Stockholm Cartell (Mork Borg) - Uses OGL to shoot down authors they disagree with. Supports BLM and bailing out rioters
Sigil Stone Publishing (Five Torches Deep) Just read the last page in FTD Origins. Titled: "BIOESSENTIALISM, RACISM, AND COLONIALISM
Pelgraine Press (13th Age) "The thing about SWGs (Straight White Guys) is that they make great punching bags. " Still need a citation for this but for now its going red. Also published #Feminism
Gallant Knight Games (Sharp Swords & Sinister Spells, the Tiny RPGs Owner Diogo Nogueira threatening to punch Venger at a the next con he sees him at, also wanted to to get companies to put "game not for fascists" on the cover of every title.
Kobold Press Guide to game mastering has a whole section telling the reader to "check your privilege"
The Design Mechanism ( Released a video stating if you voted for a certain political candidate you're not welcome to buy their game. They since deleted the video
Monte Cook Games (Numenera) Partners with Shanna Germain and wrote consent in gaming. Anything with Germain's fingers on it is automatically red
Arcanist Press Only make diversity products, they based their company on being woke
Gencon A convention, but honorary assholes none the less. They go a bit ban happy, see Jeremy Hambley and the whole thing with "nu-tsr" despite being short lived.
Coyote & Crow Bunch of actual racists making a racist game. Screeching about colonization and the whole premise of their game is what if white people didn't exist. One of the worst offenders on this list.
Magpie Games (Avatar Legends RPG) Way into BLM and "Diversity and Inclusion, also hired Daniel Kwan from Asians Represent Youtube channel. They tried to get Oriental Adventures banned from one bookshelf and other storefronts. Markets their game as non western storytelling.

Ghostmaker · August 10, 2021, 02:32:39 PM

Paranoia is almost a special case in my opinion, since the game is heavily weighted AGAINST being fair.

Having a 'don't be a dick' section in the GM manual doesn't strike me as excessive or wokeist. And honestly, it's less 'let's all be nice to each other' and more 'don't make it personal cause that's no fun'.