Great idea.

Fuck those companies that are trying to force others into their way of 'political' woke gaming.

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Quote from: 1989 on August 04, 2021, 07:28:54 PM
This guy seems to not understand the idea of not supporting those who hate you, whether that support is monetary or by just supporting the game in general by playing it at the table.

I think your presumption of hate is silly. They don't care about you. You're unimportant to them. Their statements are just for virtue signaling.

I think you sound like a male feminist.

Quote from: Merrill on August 04, 2021, 07:46:18 PM

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Quote from: Godsmonkey on August 04, 2021, 09:37:44 AM
Monty Cook is woke AF.

Thats because Shanna Germain makes him look normal in comparison.

And he's banging her and wants to continue doing so.  We can expect the wokeness to continue.

honestly, who the hell is Shanna Germain? What has she done?

You have not read her RPG safety manual?

The only thing I'm familiar with that Shanna Germain has produced is Predation, a setting for the Cypher System. It's actually a pretty neat little setting that borrows heavily from the short-lived Terra Nova show (which I liked, which might be why I like Predation). I'm not a big fan of the Cypher System, so I've been tempted to convert it over to a system I like more for a while now.

Quote from: Merrill on August 04, 2021, 07:46:18 PM
but these chicks hover around and expect us to bow down or recognize them. Yeah, lol

Monte Cook has always been a hack. I remember reading some of his 2nd edition stuff back in the day and being like "is it just me, or does this kind of suck"? I thought I had outgrown the hobby --no, I had just recognized Cook's hack content for what it was

   I actually rather liked the work of Monte's ex-wife Sue Weinlein [Cook], who did a good job shepherding the underrated Dragonlance: Fifth Age line.

Quote from: Tait Ransom on August 04, 2021, 07:36:17 PM

Quote from: Shasarak on August 04, 2021, 06:52:05 PM

Quote from: Godsmonkey on August 04, 2021, 09:37:44 AM
Monty Cook is woke AF.

Thats because Shanna Germain makes him look normal in comparison.

And he's banging her and wants to continue doing so.  We can expect the wokeness to continue.

Yeah, I had to google her, since I pay zero attention to MC.

Meh, not bad.

Just so you have someone to blame...

1) This is clearly a political thread. The term Woke is highly charged and not everyone agrees that being Woke is "bad wrong".
2) I reported it.
3) I hope it gets moved.

Are you wingnuts so butthurt you can no longer even have ONE reasonable normal conversation about RPGs? Seriously?

"Boo Hoo the mean libtards are ruining my life with Woke Memes. Boo Hoo"

^^

Needs his safe space.

Thread has become "problematic".

Is triggered.

Everyone go home.

Buddy, if you don't like the thread, you can just leave.

Quote from: Brand55 on August 04, 2021, 08:49:57 PM
The only thing I'm familiar with that Shanna Germain has produced is Predation, a setting for the Cypher System. It's actually a pretty neat little setting that borrows heavily from the short-lived Terra Nova show (which I liked, which might be why I like Predation). I'm not a big fan of the Cypher System, so I've been tempted to convert it over to a system I like more for a while now.

I haven't played it yet, but I like the Predation setting much more than I expected to.  To her credit, some of the feminazis on TBP tried to cancel Germain over her "problematic" Nibovian wife critters for Numenera.

This thread has actually been productive, minus the one or two butt hurt commenters anyway. I'm hoping by the end we can have a relatively reasonable guide on what games to look into and support. I've tried to find lists like this already made but they seem to break down quickly or you need to hunt in the thread for information.

Imo it's becoming more and more important to support these creators especially when you have people like evil hat trying to yeet people off drivethru, or new tsr getting instantly banned from all conventions. There are legit criticisms against them but that's not why they were canceled.

Greetings!

I read somewhere that Shanna Germain is into BDSM and all kinds of depraved kinks. I'm sure she is n entertaining strumpet. Interesting how Monte Cook got divorced, Sue Weinlein Cook is gone--and Shanna Germain is now sitting in the throne.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Ocule on August 04, 2021, 10:53:45 PM
This thread has actually been productive, minus the one or two butt hurt commenters anyway. I'm hoping by the end we can have a relatively reasonable guide on what games to look into and support. I've tried to find lists like this already made but they seem to break down quickly or you need to hunt in the thread for information.

Imo it's becoming more and more important to support these creators especially when you have people like evil hat trying to yeet people off drivethru, or new tsr getting instantly banned from all conventions. There are legit criticisms against them but that's not why they were canceled.

Absolutely. It is going to become increasingly difficult to even publish a work that doesn't pay homage to the ruling class ideology. If you want actual games that aren't being used as a tool to indoctrinate, then you have to support creators.

Quote from: SHARK on August 04, 2021, 10:56:30 PM
Greetings!

I read somewhere that Shanna Germain is into BDSM and all kinds of depraved kinks. I'm sure she is n entertaining strumpet. Interesting how Monte Cook got divorced, Sue Weinlein Cook is gone--and Shanna Germain is now sitting in the throne.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Yes, it's funny how that works.  He'll probably share credit with her, from here on out.

Any game that does not have the hubris to decide how I should run my group with preachy socio/political leanings baked into the rulebooks are my favourite: screw real-world cultural manifestos, I just want to play your damn game.

Definately green without a doubt (more so for the author's viewpoint(s).  The written work I would regard as 'written like it doesn't give a crap what anyone else thinks'):
Kort'thalis Publishing

Green by being neutral or indifferent to divisive social politics (haven't seen anything to say otherwise.  Maybe I'm wrong?):
BRW Games
Arion Games
Anything TSR AD&D 1e and earlier (yes I know it's WOtC, so I guess a debate about written work vs. current publisher owner here, so just go buy OSE or OSRIC to get your fix I guess)

There are a few much smaller outfit examples that would also be green I think, but these are the main ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Quote from: 1989 on August 04, 2021, 09:41:23 PM
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Buddy, if you don't like the thread, you can just leave.

Buddy, if you want to discuss politics, you can just start a thread in Pundit's forum...