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[List] TTRPG Guide to Woke Companies

Started by Ocule, August 03, 2021, 12:26:41 PM

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Omega

Quote from: HappyDaze on March 03, 2025, 10:03:23 PMCan you quote or link to the offending example?

Goldmoon and/or her companion being based on NA culture. But not NA. (or are NA and now its "appropriation!")
Goldmoon being "sexualized"
Gully Dwarves
Anything else the woke can hallucinate as offensive.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Omega on March 03, 2025, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 03, 2025, 10:03:23 PMCan you quote or link to the offending example?

Goldmoon and/or her companion being based on NA culture. But not NA. (or are NA and now its "appropriation!")
Goldmoon being "sexualized"
Gully Dwarves
Anything else the woke can hallucinate as offensive.

These are the examples for being him on the red list?
I don't think Goldmoon was sexualized in the text. Did the writer also do the art?


Nobleshield

Quote from: Bedrockbrendan on March 09, 2025, 01:40:36 AM
Quote from: Omega on March 03, 2025, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 03, 2025, 10:03:23 PMCan you quote or link to the offending example?

Gully Dwarves


What was the complaint about Gully Dwarves?
IIRC weren't Gully Dwarves basically scum of the earth dwarves, and the other dwarves looked down on them as subhuman filth? Probably some veiled "they represent minorities" crap.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Nobleshield on March 10, 2025, 10:07:27 AM
Quote from: Bedrockbrendan on March 09, 2025, 01:40:36 AM
Quote from: Omega on March 03, 2025, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 03, 2025, 10:03:23 PMCan you quote or link to the offending example?

Gully Dwarves


What was the complaint about Gully Dwarves?
IIRC weren't Gully Dwarves basically scum of the earth dwarves, and the other dwarves looked down on them as subhuman filth? Probably some veiled "they represent minorities" crap.
IIRC correctly, Gully Dwarves were mentally deficient (handicapped if you prefer) as the result of a divine curse.

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: HappyDaze on March 10, 2025, 10:19:52 AM
Quote from: Nobleshield on March 10, 2025, 10:07:27 AM
Quote from: Bedrockbrendan on March 09, 2025, 01:40:36 AM
Quote from: Omega on March 03, 2025, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 03, 2025, 10:03:23 PMCan you quote or link to the offending example?

Gully Dwarves


What was the complaint about Gully Dwarves?
IIRC weren't Gully Dwarves basically scum of the earth dwarves, and the other dwarves looked down on them as subhuman filth? Probably some veiled "they represent minorities" crap.
IIRC correctly, Gully Dwarves were mentally deficient (handicapped if you prefer) as the result of a divine curse.

  They were the result of dwarf/gnome interbreeding, which raised concerns about them representing fears of 'miscegenation.'

  From my point of view, they added very little to the setting (if anything) after DL1, and could just as easily have been a group of dwarves brought low by the Cataclysm.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 10, 2025, 10:52:20 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 10, 2025, 10:19:52 AM
Quote from: Nobleshield on March 10, 2025, 10:07:27 AM
Quote from: Bedrockbrendan on March 09, 2025, 01:40:36 AM
Quote from: Omega on March 03, 2025, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on March 03, 2025, 10:03:23 PMCan you quote or link to the offending example?

Gully Dwarves


What was the complaint about Gully Dwarves?
IIRC weren't Gully Dwarves basically scum of the earth dwarves, and the other dwarves looked down on them as subhuman filth? Probably some veiled "they represent minorities" crap.
IIRC correctly, Gully Dwarves were mentally deficient (handicapped if you prefer) as the result of a divine curse.

  They were the result of dwarf/gnome interbreeding, which raised concerns about them representing fears of 'miscegenation.'

  From my point of view, they added very little to the setting (if anything) after DL1, and could just as easily have been a group of dwarves brought low by the Cataclysm.
That's what I though they were, but I haven't looked at Krynn in detail in over 30 years, so my mistake.

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: HappyDaze on March 10, 2025, 11:34:17 AMThat's what I though they were, but I haven't looked at Krynn in detail in over 30 years, so my mistake.

  You need to go fairly deep into DL lore to pick it up--it doesn't show up in the original modules or novels, but is originated in the "All about gully dwarves" article by Roger E. Moore in DRAGON, and carried forward in subsequent DL source material. (Moore also seems to be the origin of 'gnomish invitations never work' and, along with Janet Pack and Margaret Weis, shares much of the blame for making kender cute, sacred innocents, and utterly insufferable.)

HappyDaze

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 10, 2025, 12:16:59 PM(Moore also seems to be the origin of 'gnomish invitations never work' and, along with Janet Pack and Margaret Weis, shares much of the blame for making kender cute, sacred innocents, and utterly insufferable.)
I do know that there were two lines of tinker gnomes, but the one that designs working devices are very rare (possibly extinct) in Anasalon. In Taladas (the continent on the other side of Krynn), the gnomoi (sp?) design working inventions and the minoi (sp?) are able to construct them just fine (although they still can't design them themselves).

yosemitemike

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 10, 2025, 12:16:59 PMYou need to go fairly deep into DL lore to pick it up--

I ran a whole DL campaign without going that deep into the lore. 
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Armchair Gamer

Quote from: yosemitemike on March 10, 2025, 10:37:42 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 10, 2025, 12:16:59 PMYou need to go fairly deep into DL lore to pick it up--

I ran a whole DL campaign without going that deep into the lore. 

  Thus highlighting the general irrelevance and uselessness of gully dwarves. :D

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Gagarth

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 11, 2025, 11:29:52 AMWhat does it say about religion?

"Christian socialism" is a non-denominational progressive movement that is extremely influential.
'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.' Harry Pollitt - Communist Party GB

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" Eric Coomer -  Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: Gagarth on March 11, 2025, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 11, 2025, 11:29:52 AMWhat does it say about religion?

"Christian socialism" is a non-denominational progressive movement that is extremely influential.

  That's historical, at least, but I'm not surprised it's what they chose to call out. Any mention of the Oxford Movement?