Quote from: Zalman on June 22, 2023, 05:15:27 PM

Quote from: Corolinth on June 22, 2023, 12:22:12 PM
I think a lot of it is really about drumming up work for failed academics.

Hm, maybe, but from what I've seen a significant portion (anecdotally the vast majority in my own experience) of these consultants are not academically qualified in any way. Rather, they are hired by game companies based on their heredity (not even their nativity or residence!).

I bolded the operative word. The line about the adjunct professor was a throwaway exaggeration to paint a picture.

In the United States, we shoved a lot of millennials through college because they had few employment prospects when our economy tanked in 2007. We told them it didn't matter what they majored in, just that they graduated from college, so many of them got degrees in the humanities. Quite a lot of them went into graduate programs because that allowed them to defer their student loan payments. Of course, not everyone graduates. This is the perfect con job for a person of the right non-European ancestry who, for whatever reason, never managed to finish their PhD in some obscure branch of history. Or, perhaps, a person of the right ancestry who got a PhD in literature and then couldn't land a job.

Re-reading some of this thread I noticed something.  Both Mongoose Publishing and Chaosium came into this thread and lied.  IDK what that does for any of the rest of you but that puts me in the "you are now infrared" mode with them. 

Quote from: BadApple on June 23, 2023, 01:09:52 AM
Re-reading some of this thread I noticed something.  Both Mongoose Publishing and Chaosium came into this thread and lied.  IDK what that does for any of the rest of you but that puts me in the "you are now infrared" mode with them.

Can you lead me to these posts?

How did the courageous people on this thread overcome the fear of being canceled?   

Looking for recommendations from the people who subscribe and respond to this thread on the following.   I am looking for a new RPG to try that would be on the green list free of trans content and preferred pronouns, using other skills besides kill on site like problem-solving, and is safe for kids.   

The Gloomhaven RPG (+ other things) backerkit campaign has launched at it is exactly what I feared it would be.
Although we don't know a lot about the RPG yet, the use of pronouns on the character sheet is already pretty self explanatory.

Mendez ("Orcs are racist") is mentioned as an author which is not surprising and yet still a let down.

They have a PSA which says "If you're gonna be a jerk we don't want your money." Which is of course well within their rights but gives away a lot of how this company thinks and acts.

Also worth mentioning, even though not directly related to RPGs, part of this campaign is a Gloomhaven 2.0 version, which upgrades game components and balancing and stuff. But most importantly and I'm positive this is the ACTUALL reason this new version exists is that the owner Isaac Childres has said that he is "ashamed" of the old version of his game for being so culturally insensitive and "harmful" to people. A board game. Is harmful. Yet apparently it wasn't so harmful as to take it off the shelves.

This is all just very sad at this point and makes it very apparent why the woke list is such an important endavour. I wish I would have seen Cephalophair games for what they are BEFORE I got into Gloomhaven and spend time and money. They are a lost cause and deeply red.

EDIT: Also on a cringy funny note, when Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom launched Childres went to twitter and actually implied that the game might have taken inspiration from his board game Gloomhaven. Take about overestimating yourself.

Quote from: KenpoGMBrian on June 25, 2023, 08:52:05 PM
How did the courageous people on this thread overcome the fear of being canceled?   

Looking for recommendations from the people who subscribe and respond to this thread on the following.   I am looking for a new RPG to try that would be on the green list free of trans content and preferred pronouns, using other skills besides kill on site like problem-solving, and is safe for kids.

Old school essentials is a pretty safe bet for kids but it's ruleset can be a little complicated, nothing that can't be overcome but still, another good pick for kids would be either Cairn or Maze Rats, don't know much about the authors but they don't have any pronouns or other idelogical stuff in it and they are also free.
There is also Savage Worlds, I know it's on the yellow list but the core book is devoid of any weird stuff and my nephews had a ton of fun playing it, the ruleset is also fairly complicated but still great for running adventurous games with very capable protagonists.
Last but not least, there is also the Labyrinth rpg, I bought it on a whim being a fan of the original movie and It is made especially with kids in mind, definitely worth a try.

Quote from: KenpoGMBrian on June 25, 2023, 08:52:05 PM
How did the courageous people on this thread overcome the fear of being canceled?   

Looking for recommendations from the people who subscribe and respond to this thread on the following.   I am looking for a new RPG to try that would be on the green list free of trans content and preferred pronouns, using other skills besides kill on site like problem-solving, and is safe for kids.

Funny thing though: we don't cancel. We don't demand storefronts remove their material. We don't call their workplaces and demand they be fired. We don't whip up digital (if not real) lynch mobs against them. We just say 'These people, and their works, are shit. Here's why.'

Quote from: KenpoGMBrian on June 25, 2023, 08:52:05 PM

Looking for recommendations from the people who subscribe and respond to this thread on the following.   I am looking for a new RPG to try that would be on the green list free of trans content and preferred pronouns, using other skills besides kill on site like problem-solving, and is safe for kids.

Shadowdark, hands down, is a fantastic take on OSR rules using 5e mechanics and is quite kid friendly with none of the sparkle brigade nonsense. 

Latest cringe from Steve Jackson Games:
http://www.sjgames.com/ill/archive/June_27_2023/Pyramid_Pride

QuoteAll proceeds from the sale of these designs will go to Lambda Legal to help them fight for human rights in the courtroom.

To help them fight for human rights in the courtroom.... even though  they have PRIVILEGED STATUS already, and are bullying everyone else.

"do you see your color in there?"   NO!  I'm a devout Catholic and those colors are busy mocking my color (whatever that is: I guess green/violet/red/white together, to match the liturgical calendar) at Dodgers games, and vandalizing my churches; my local parish was hit with weekly hate crimes until they got overconfident and were caught by police!

At least it seems that donations only come from those who buy these special products.

Quote from: Abbo1993 on June 26, 2023, 06:43:18 AM

Quote from: KenpoGMBrian on June 25, 2023, 08:52:05 PM
How did the courageous people on this thread overcome the fear of being canceled?   

Looking for recommendations from the people who subscribe and respond to this thread on the following.   I am looking for a new RPG to try that would be on the green list free of trans content and preferred pronouns, using other skills besides kill on site like problem-solving, and is safe for kids.

Old school essentials is a pretty safe bet for kids but it's ruleset can be a little complicated, nothing that can't be overcome but still, another good pick for kids would be either Cairn or Maze Rats, don't know much about the authors but they don't have any pronouns or other idelogical stuff in it and they are also free.
There is also Savage Worlds, I know it's on the yellow list but the core book is devoid of any weird stuff and my nephews had a ton of fun playing it, the ruleset is also fairly complicated but still great for running adventurous games with very capable protagonists.
Last but not least, there is also the Labyrinth rpg, I bought it on a whim being a fan of the original movie and It is made especially with kids in mind, definitely worth a try.

I would disagree about OSE being complicated. Especially compared to 5E. I actually started running my current game for a group of kids using OSE because some of them hadn't played a TTRPG before and I wanted something that was familiar to DnD players but not as complex and bloated. They really enjoyed it but I'm now at the point where they've demanded I give them a more complex system. At first I was going to go for Savage Worlds and now we've settled for ACKS because they really like the idea of having their own domains to fight each other with. I may even have to go further afield and dust off my dad's AD&D 1E books for patron and domain play with 1:1 timescale.

TLDR: Don't underestimate the intelligence of kids. Especially ages ten and up.

Quote from: King Tyranno on July 02, 2023, 09:04:52 AM
I would disagree about OSE being complicated. Especially compared to 5E. I actually started running my current game for a group of kids using OSE because some of them hadn't played a TTRPG before and I wanted something that was familiar to DnD players but not as complex and bloated. They really enjoyed it but I'm now at the point where they've demanded I give them a more complex system. At first I was going to go for Savage Worlds and now we've settled for ACKS because they really like the idea of having their own domains to fight each other with. I may even have to go further afield and dust off my dad's AD&D 1E books for patron and domain play with 1:1 timescale.

TLDR: Don't underestimate the intelligence of kids. Especially ages ten and up.

Your Dad's AD&D 1E books?  Thanks, I didn't really feel quite old enough before reading that.

Quote from: King Tyranno on July 02, 2023, 09:04:52 AM

Quote from: Abbo1993 on June 26, 2023, 06:43:18 AM

Quote from: KenpoGMBrian on June 25, 2023, 08:52:05 PM
How did the courageous people on this thread overcome the fear of being canceled?   

Looking for recommendations from the people who subscribe and respond to this thread on the following.   I am looking for a new RPG to try that would be on the green list free of trans content and preferred pronouns, using other skills besides kill on site like problem-solving, and is safe for kids.

Old school essentials is a pretty safe bet for kids but it's ruleset can be a little complicated, nothing that can't be overcome but still, another good pick for kids would be either Cairn or Maze Rats, don't know much about the authors but they don't have any pronouns or other idelogical stuff in it and they are also free.
There is also Savage Worlds, I know it's on the yellow list but the core book is devoid of any weird stuff and my nephews had a ton of fun playing it, the ruleset is also fairly complicated but still great for running adventurous games with very capable protagonists.
Last but not least, there is also the Labyrinth rpg, I bought it on a whim being a fan of the original movie and It is made especially with kids in mind, definitely worth a try.

I would disagree about OSE being complicated. Especially compared to 5E. I actually started running my current game for a group of kids using OSE because some of them hadn't played a TTRPG before and I wanted something that was familiar to DnD players but not as complex and bloated. They really enjoyed it but I'm now at the point where they've demanded I give them a more complex system. At first I was going to go for Savage Worlds and now we've settled for ACKS because they really like the idea of having their own domains to fight each other with. I may even have to go further afield and dust off my dad's AD&D 1E books for patron and domain play with 1:1 timescale.

TLDR: Don't underestimate the intelligence of kids. Especially ages ten and up.

I agree in a way but there are some tiny details like encumbrance, the dungeon turns and the math that comes with managing property and domains that can get crunchy, granted I was never the smartest player and my nephews didn't have too much trouble on this but I think it's worth pointing out.

Perhaps you could add my "company" to the list, even though none of my products are finished yet.
I do, however, have a firm stance on the whole woke/blm/sjw situation. I don't like it, to put it mildly.
Add me to any color you think is suitable. For more info send me a private message or contact me via my website https://blackplague.games
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Quote from: Cathode Ray on June 27, 2023, 07:10:11 AM
Latest cringe from Steve Jackson Games:
http://www.sjgames.com/ill/archive/June_27_2023/Pyramid_Pride

Quote from: SJGYou are welcome at my table. Just be nice to everyone else at the table; that's the only rule about who gets to sit down.

Just be nice? That's the ONLY rule?

Oh Steve, you sweet, summer child. You really think "being nice" is what this is about?

Quote from: Aglondir on July 03, 2023, 05:52:59 PM

Quote from: Cathode Ray on June 27, 2023, 07:10:11 AM
Latest cringe from Steve Jackson Games:
http://www.sjgames.com/ill/archive/June_27_2023/Pyramid_Pride

Quote from: SJGYou are welcome at my table. Just be nice to everyone else at the table; that's the only rule about who gets to sit down.

Just be nice? That's the ONLY rule?

Oh Steve, you sweet, summer child. You really think "being nice" is what this is about?

Quote from: SJGThat shouldn't even have to be said, but since it DOES have to be said, let's say it loudly and let the trolls fall where they may. In honor of Pride, we present a matched set of rainbow designs...

Actually, if is really is just about "just be nice, everyone is welcome at my table," and not about a loaded agenda [EDIT: and using it to sell T-Shirts to donate $$$ to an outfit who will use it to fight court battles to mutilate children], then it DOESN'T have to be said.