Quote from: PonchoGoblin on October 10, 2022, 04:56:57 PM
Also I believe Chaosium can firmly be put in Red now, considering they jumped the shark with CoC 40th Anniversary and replaced "Sex" on all official character sheets with "Pronouns"

Because nothing screams 1920s like the word pronouns.

Quote from: Skullking on October 10, 2022, 06:29:59 PM

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on October 10, 2022, 04:56:57 PM
Also I believe Chaosium can firmly be put in Red now, considering they jumped the shark with CoC 40th Anniversary and replaced "Sex" on all official character sheets with "Pronouns"

Because nothing screams 1920s like the word pronouns.

The greatest horror, of course, is when Cthulhu misgenders you.  We've got to prevent that at all costs.

Quote from: Osman Gazi on October 11, 2022, 09:47:33 AM

Quote from: Skullking on October 10, 2022, 06:29:59 PM

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on October 10, 2022, 04:56:57 PM
Also I believe Chaosium can firmly be put in Red now, considering they jumped the shark with CoC 40th Anniversary and replaced "Sex" on all official character sheets with "Pronouns"

Because nothing screams 1920s like the word pronouns.

The greatest horror, of course, is when Cthulhu misgenders you.  We've got to prevent that at all costs.

In a bout of temporary insanity, you misgender the person next to you at the table. You are now banned from your FLGS. Please return your X-Cards at the door.

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on October 11, 2022, 11:17:59 AM

Quote from: Osman Gazi on October 11, 2022, 09:47:33 AM

Quote from: Skullking on October 10, 2022, 06:29:59 PM

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on October 10, 2022, 04:56:57 PM
Also I believe Chaosium can firmly be put in Red now, considering they jumped the shark with CoC 40th Anniversary and replaced "Sex" on all official character sheets with "Pronouns"

Because nothing screams 1920s like the word pronouns.

The greatest horror, of course, is when Cthulhu misgenders you.  We've got to prevent that at all costs.

In a bout of temporary insanity, you misgender the person next to you at the table. You are now banned from your FLGS. Please return your X-Cards at the door.

'A pall of eldritch dread fell upon the piscatorial town of Innsmouth as the flamboyant eldest child of Obed Marsh turned to the assembled throng of the Esoteric Order of Dagon and declared "I now identify as a byakhee!"'

Anyone know anything about Pickpocket Games and their hottest product, Low Fantasy Gaming? I'm interested in getting it.

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/265388/Low-Fantasy-Gaming-Deluxe-Edition?src=hottest_filtered

I have LFG. It does not seem woke in any way, but I haven't been able to get any of the supplements for it, so not sure if there's anything woke in there.

Although if I hear the phrase "Counter Colonial" one more time from some of these newer games, I'm going to puke. An evil empire is evil because it is evil, not because it is an empire.

Edit: "counter colonial" does not appear in LFG, just to clarify. I was making a general statement about some of the woke games. I find LFG to be a fun interpretation of 5th edition D&D rules with several old school elements thrown in. It replaces orcs with "skorn", and there is a half-skorn race. The nonhuman races have both negative and positive ability modifiers. Alignment is removed (I actually like that), but Cultists (the replacement of Cleric) do have their own motives and agendas that they adhere to. Luck ability score is used for avoiding traps. In combat, interesting things happen on a d20 roll of 19.

Quote from: MadCarthos on October 12, 2022, 12:55:05 PM
I have LFG. It does not seem woke in any way, but I haven't been able to get any of the supplements for it, so not sure if there's anything woke in there.

Although if I hear the phrase "Counter Colonial" one more time from some of these newer games, I'm going to puke. An evil empire is evil because it is evil, not because it is an empire.

Edit: "counter colonial" does not appear in LFG, just to clarify. I was making a general statement about some of the woke games. I find LFG to be a fun interpretation of 5th edition D&D rules with several old school elements thrown in. It replaces orcs with "skorn", and there is a half-skorn race. The nonhuman races have both negative and positive ability modifiers. Alignment is removed (I actually like that), but Cultists (the replacement of Cleric) do have their own motives and agendas that they adhere to. Luck ability score is used for avoiding traps. In combat, interesting things happen on a d20 roll of 19.

Thanks! I've been looking for generic OSR systems to dive into for inspiration, but I don't want to give money to people who'd woke-scold me for wrongthink. I also want something that embraces sensibilities from the 70s and 80s, hence "race as class" appeals to me even if I don't end up playing it; rather that than games that change up elements for non-gaming related purposes, like "race" to "ancestry" (which in itself isn't a bad idea if it isn't actually fuelled by certain motivations). Nowadays it seems every other new product must have some form of postmodern Californian idea injected into it.

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QuoteAnd, as we said, once someone realises that he is deep in the reality of the Cthulhu Mythos, he either join the Nazis - thus becoming a NPC - or fights the good fight, Indians included.

TBH in all this mess most woke think is linking Cthulhu with Nazis really, rather than making it something transcending those petty human squabbles, with cultists in many nations running totally separate game from war of muggles. Like I get that occult Nazi is kinda pulp trope, but let's not overdone it.

It works well with Delta Green, if one wants to use the "no one was innocent" trope. While Delta Green is, formally, against the Mythos, the temptation to be more pro-active is, IMHO, too strong - exp. if things in the war are going South. Delta Green vs. the initial Japanese invasion of Southeast Asia is full of opportunities. And, as I mentioned, the initial race for Tunis in late 1942 ("Tunis by Christmas!") was a disaster - with the Battle of Kasserine Pass being only the most famous among the low points.

Nazis we're known for a few crazy occult experiments and their scientists were willing to break just about every common sense restriction in the name of finding a military advantage. Therefore, they make for an obvious  source for unsealed lovecraftian evils with morally unambiguous villains. The simplest solution is to simply say the Nazis set the groundwork, dissolved, and now an unrelated cult has found and repurposed the research for new ends. That way you have the pulp without the baggage.

Yeah, agreed. I recently bought their 2nd edition box set because CoC is dead by now.

Quote from: MigRib on October 13, 2022, 08:41:00 AM
Yeah, agreed. I recently bought their 2nd edition box set because CoC is dead by now.

What do you mean? I thought CoC was doing fine.

What I meant is it's dead for me because of wokeness. It's probably doing great.

Quote from: Xanadu on October 13, 2022, 09:18:15 AM

Quote from: MigRib on October 13, 2022, 08:41:00 AM
Yeah, agreed. I recently bought their 2nd edition box set because CoC is dead by now.

What do you mean? I thought CoC was doing fine.

It recently became the first RPG set in the 1920s that encouraged characters to let people know their preferred pronouns.

Ugh, I see. Did the edit the 7e core books and everything or what?

Quote from: PulpHerb on October 13, 2022, 12:22:57 PM
It recently became the first RPG set in the 1920s that encouraged characters to let people know their preferred pronouns.

Chaosium is based out of Berkeley California after all.

Quote from: Ruprecht on October 13, 2022, 03:05:32 PM

Quote from: PulpHerb on October 13, 2022, 12:22:57 PM
It recently became the first RPG set in the 1920s that encouraged characters to let people know their preferred pronouns.

Chaosium is based out of Berkeley California after all.

If that was sufficient there would have been "no nukes" material in the 1st and 2nd editions or "WTO protest" materials in the 4th and 5th.

Politics has not been a content item in their games in the past with one possible exception with one of the Superworld adventures having "Dr. Drugs" as a villain, although I didn't read it as endorsing Nancy Reagan but just reflecting the broader comic culture at the item (such as Cloak and Dagger's original run).