Quote from: PSIandCO on May 02, 2022, 10:08:28 PM
Paizo Pathfinder - bad news. Apparently, the LGBT section of their message boards started pron chatting about "futa" (976-chi-xwi-diks) and at some point suggested using "gender swap" magic items on children to make them "want more anal rape".
it went downhill from there...
the LGBT posters began hinting at how often they had "dreams" of raping children in their neighborhoods and so forth.

All of the posters who;
A> Said that sexual content doesn't belong on the message boards
B> Said sexual content doesn't belong in the "fantasy adventure" game
C> Said that the LGBT folks were openly discussing child abduction and child rape

Well, all of those (opposed to LGBT) people's accounts got PERMABANED this includes deleting access to the pazio digital store, and any record of their purchases.
it also denies them any access to the digital content that those people had already paid for. Paizo tracks and blocks residential IP numbers, if you have been banned you can never get back into their website unless you move, use new computers, and new e-mail accounts.
... Paizo took steps to protect child molesters and wannabe child molesters.

this should change them from a "mere red" to "BLOOD" as in, Paizo may have blood on their hands when it comes to protecting "LGBT" message board members, child groomers on their message boards, and Their own writers who just can't seem to stop adding "flaming gay halfling" NPCs to their books/adventures/PFS "scenarrios" because they get all hot and bothered by something the size of a human child...

Screenshots or gtfo

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 03, 2022, 08:48:29 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on May 02, 2022, 02:54:55 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on May 02, 2022, 02:45:26 PM

Quote from: oggsmash on May 02, 2022, 02:30:44 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 02, 2022, 01:59:27 PM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 02, 2022, 01:40:55 PM
Indeed. The whole 'trans identity' issue kind of breaks down if it's NOT an issue any more.

Eclipse Phase, for example: most morphs beyond flats have a built in 'switch' to swap genders. Takes about a week before the nanomachines and whatnot get you fully rebuilt. And if not, the friendly medtech two doors down can probably manage it for you.

Yeah, I know, sufficiently advanced technology indistinguishable from magic, etc.

But the point is that someone obsessing over their 'erroneous' gender in EP would probably be viewed as a weirdo. It'd be like someone in present day bitching about their shirt being uncomfortable. Stop whining about it and go change shirts!

Which is the exact same argument against the combat wheelchair, trans issues, etc in a setting of high fantasy where magic can cure such ailments.

Now, a combat wheelchair a la (IIRC) Riddick? I can see that.

  Something that has always bothered me about the combat chair Ravenor uses, is that his mentor had connections to get a guy who literally is one of the worst villains in the Imperium of man a whole body made to put his consciousness into.   He seemed to never bother trying this for his star cadre member and the guy he thought would be a great inquisitor one day.  Other than that detail though, WH40k's universe makes sense to have something like a combat chair as well.  D&D never made sense, and I can see scenarios where WH fantasy it could make sense, but the strange push to have disabled people represented as fully capable PCs has always seemed really odd to me.

The "chair" was basically a floating casket that holds whatever husk is left of Ravenor.  That completely makes sense due to the back story of the character and actions in prior books that setup this type of life-coffin.  Further many Space Marines that are still "functional" are dropped in Titan's to be their "pilots" so the lore backs up the reasoning.   

If you are literally a cripple in D&D and need a wheelchair to move around you are basically not leaving a certain area and not traveling around the world unless you have someway of migrating Vertical movement spaces at will.

If the backstory meshes well and the mobility won't be a hinderance I don't see a problem with having a mobile "chair" of some sort.  That has to be solved first and foremost and not have a game built around "Well you can't go down stairs there Claptrap..."

  In the setting the chair does make sense, however in his particular case, his mentor Eisenhorn gave a wonderful body to a horrible heretic, and never even seemed to consider doing this for Ravenor.  I find that odd.   I also think if we are talking D&D, the flying battle chair is probably more expensive than having a restoration spell cast on you.

It's been a while since I read the Eisenhorn books. What're you referring to regarding the body given to a heretic?

Also, 40k Imperial medical tech has hard limits. As THE_Leopold notes, the life-support chair was analogous to a dreadnought casket for crippled Astartes (not titans dude, different giant robot)

   Glaw, I can not remember his first name, but his mind was contained in a special stone and Eisenhorn made a deal with him that if he cooperated he would have his mechanicus pal make him a body to move around in.  Not only did this ignore his loyal employee's plight, it was INCREDIBLY bad judgement knowing Glaw was insanely powerful as a psycher as well as a super genius with many hidden resources all over the galaxy.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 03, 2022, 08:49:16 AM

Quote from: PSIandCO on May 02, 2022, 10:08:28 PM
Paizo Pathfinder - bad news. Apparently, the LGBT section of their message boards started pron chatting about "futa" (976-chi-xwi-diks) and at some point suggested using "gender swap" magic items on children to make them "want more anal rape".
it went downhill from there...
the LGBT posters began hinting at how often they had "dreams" of raping children in their neighborhoods and so forth.

All of the posters who;
A> Said that sexual content doesn't belong on the message boards
B> Said sexual content doesn't belong in the "fantasy adventure" game
C> Said that the LGBT folks were openly discussing child abduction and child rape

Well, all of those (opposed to LGBT) people's accounts got PERMABANED this includes deleting access to the pazio digital store, and any record of their purchases.
it also denies them any access to the digital content that those people had already paid for. Paizo tracks and blocks residential IP numbers, if you have been banned you can never get back into their website unless you move, use new computers, and new e-mail accounts.
... Paizo took steps to protect child molesters and wannabe child molesters.

this should change them from a "mere red" to "BLOOD" as in, Paizo may have blood on their hands when it comes to protecting "LGBT" message board members, child groomers on their message boards, and Their own writers who just can't seem to stop adding "flaming gay halfling" NPCs to their books/adventures/PFS "scenarrios" because they get all hot and bothered by something the size of a human child...

Screenshots or gtfo

I found the lgbt forum on the Paizo website.  I want back 6 months...it is just a bunch of weak people posting there for validation.  Nothing more, so I agree...receipts please.

In other news, I'm seeing chatter on Twitter from small publishers who want to put together a DTRPG bundle to benefit 'reproductive rights.'

I'm willing to go on the record right now--any company that participates in such a bundle will receive no patronage from me going forward.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on May 03, 2022, 02:07:42 PM
In other news, I'm seeing chatter on Twitter from small publishers who want to put together a DTRPG bundle to benefit 'reproductive rights.'

I'm willing to go on the record right now--any company that participates in such a bundle will receive no patronage from me going forward.

Same here.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 03, 2022, 03:26:27 PM

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on May 03, 2022, 02:07:42 PM
In other news, I'm seeing chatter on Twitter from small publishers who want to put together a DTRPG bundle to benefit 'reproductive rights.'

I'm willing to go on the record right now--any company that participates in such a bundle will receive no patronage from me going forward.

More money to save lol
Same here.

Quote from: oggsmash on May 03, 2022, 11:55:30 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 03, 2022, 08:48:29 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on May 02, 2022, 02:54:55 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on May 02, 2022, 02:45:26 PM

Quote from: oggsmash on May 02, 2022, 02:30:44 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 02, 2022, 01:59:27 PM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 02, 2022, 01:40:55 PM
Indeed. The whole 'trans identity' issue kind of breaks down if it's NOT an issue any more.

Eclipse Phase, for example: most morphs beyond flats have a built in 'switch' to swap genders. Takes about a week before the nanomachines and whatnot get you fully rebuilt. And if not, the friendly medtech two doors down can probably manage it for you.

Yeah, I know, sufficiently advanced technology indistinguishable from magic, etc.

But the point is that someone obsessing over their 'erroneous' gender in EP would probably be viewed as a weirdo. It'd be like someone in present day bitching about their shirt being uncomfortable. Stop whining about it and go change shirts!

Which is the exact same argument against the combat wheelchair, trans issues, etc in a setting of high fantasy where magic can cure such ailments.

Now, a combat wheelchair a la (IIRC) Riddick? I can see that.

  Something that has always bothered me about the combat chair Ravenor uses, is that his mentor had connections to get a guy who literally is one of the worst villains in the Imperium of man a whole body made to put his consciousness into.   He seemed to never bother trying this for his star cadre member and the guy he thought would be a great inquisitor one day.  Other than that detail though, WH40k's universe makes sense to have something like a combat chair as well.  D&D never made sense, and I can see scenarios where WH fantasy it could make sense, but the strange push to have disabled people represented as fully capable PCs has always seemed really odd to me.

The "chair" was basically a floating casket that holds whatever husk is left of Ravenor.  That completely makes sense due to the back story of the character and actions in prior books that setup this type of life-coffin.  Further many Space Marines that are still "functional" are dropped in Titan's to be their "pilots" so the lore backs up the reasoning.   

If you are literally a cripple in D&D and need a wheelchair to move around you are basically not leaving a certain area and not traveling around the world unless you have someway of migrating Vertical movement spaces at will.

If the backstory meshes well and the mobility won't be a hinderance I don't see a problem with having a mobile "chair" of some sort.  That has to be solved first and foremost and not have a game built around "Well you can't go down stairs there Claptrap..."

  In the setting the chair does make sense, however in his particular case, his mentor Eisenhorn gave a wonderful body to a horrible heretic, and never even seemed to consider doing this for Ravenor.  I find that odd.   I also think if we are talking D&D, the flying battle chair is probably more expensive than having a restoration spell cast on you.

It's been a while since I read the Eisenhorn books. What're you referring to regarding the body given to a heretic?

Also, 40k Imperial medical tech has hard limits. As THE_Leopold notes, the life-support chair was analogous to a dreadnought casket for crippled Astartes (not titans dude, different giant robot)

   Glaw, I can not remember his first name, but his mind was contained in a special stone and Eisenhorn made a deal with him that if he cooperated he would have his mechanicus pal make him a body to move around in.  Not only did this ignore his loyal employee's plight, it was INCREDIBLY bad judgement knowing Glaw was insanely powerful as a psycher as well as a super genius with many hidden resources all over the galaxy.

I think I remember. Although the Imperium has some really funky attitudes about transhumanism, and so there might be issues with moving Ravenor into a similar stone.

That being said, Eisenhorn was amazingly stupid to make any deals with a heretic.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 03, 2022, 07:44:43 PM

Quote from: oggsmash on May 03, 2022, 11:55:30 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 03, 2022, 08:48:29 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on May 02, 2022, 02:54:55 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on May 02, 2022, 02:45:26 PM

Quote from: oggsmash on May 02, 2022, 02:30:44 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 02, 2022, 01:59:27 PM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 02, 2022, 01:40:55 PM
Indeed. The whole 'trans identity' issue kind of breaks down if it's NOT an issue any more.

Eclipse Phase, for example: most morphs beyond flats have a built in 'switch' to swap genders. Takes about a week before the nanomachines and whatnot get you fully rebuilt. And if not, the friendly medtech two doors down can probably manage it for you.

Yeah, I know, sufficiently advanced technology indistinguishable from magic, etc.

But the point is that someone obsessing over their 'erroneous' gender in EP would probably be viewed as a weirdo. It'd be like someone in present day bitching about their shirt being uncomfortable. Stop whining about it and go change shirts!

Which is the exact same argument against the combat wheelchair, trans issues, etc in a setting of high fantasy where magic can cure such ailments.

Now, a combat wheelchair a la (IIRC) Riddick? I can see that.

  Something that has always bothered me about the combat chair Ravenor uses, is that his mentor had connections to get a guy who literally is one of the worst villains in the Imperium of man a whole body made to put his consciousness into.   He seemed to never bother trying this for his star cadre member and the guy he thought would be a great inquisitor one day.  Other than that detail though, WH40k's universe makes sense to have something like a combat chair as well.  D&D never made sense, and I can see scenarios where WH fantasy it could make sense, but the strange push to have disabled people represented as fully capable PCs has always seemed really odd to me.

The "chair" was basically a floating casket that holds whatever husk is left of Ravenor.  That completely makes sense due to the back story of the character and actions in prior books that setup this type of life-coffin.  Further many Space Marines that are still "functional" are dropped in Titan's to be their "pilots" so the lore backs up the reasoning.   

If you are literally a cripple in D&D and need a wheelchair to move around you are basically not leaving a certain area and not traveling around the world unless you have someway of migrating Vertical movement spaces at will.

If the backstory meshes well and the mobility won't be a hinderance I don't see a problem with having a mobile "chair" of some sort.  That has to be solved first and foremost and not have a game built around "Well you can't go down stairs there Claptrap..."

  In the setting the chair does make sense, however in his particular case, his mentor Eisenhorn gave a wonderful body to a horrible heretic, and never even seemed to consider doing this for Ravenor.  I find that odd.   I also think if we are talking D&D, the flying battle chair is probably more expensive than having a restoration spell cast on you.

It's been a while since I read the Eisenhorn books. What're you referring to regarding the body given to a heretic?

Also, 40k Imperial medical tech has hard limits. As THE_Leopold notes, the life-support chair was analogous to a dreadnought casket for crippled Astartes (not titans dude, different giant robot)

   Glaw, I can not remember his first name, but his mind was contained in a special stone and Eisenhorn made a deal with him that if he cooperated he would have his mechanicus pal make him a body to move around in.  Not only did this ignore his loyal employee's plight, it was INCREDIBLY bad judgement knowing Glaw was insanely powerful as a psycher as well as a super genius with many hidden resources all over the galaxy.

I think I remember. Although the Imperium has some really funky attitudes about transhumanism, and so there might be issues with moving Ravenor into a similar stone.

That being said, Eisenhorn was amazingly stupid to make any deals with a heretic.

  Yeah, I do not think they had the tech/knowledge to put a conscious into the magic tech stone Glaw's mind was in, but I dont think that was the catalyst for transferring consciousness.   The Imperium has access to many higher tech applications than are applied to the "masses" (in this case things like dreadknoughts or servitor chassis) that will look more humanized and less skull laden/horror show.   I am not so sure the Imperium has issues with transhumanism, I honestly think it was a slip in continuity on the part of Abnett when MANY examples are all over his books of augmented humans (Eisenhorns sage, as well as the rogue trader he pals around with) who are as much machine, or much more machine than human.  I might re read those books a bit, or at least the Raveneor ones to see if there was some detail as to why he chose the chair over an augmetic body.  I know he talks in his series as if there was an increase level of psycher ability both from the chair amplifying it as well as his own abilities being now hyper focused due to physical condition, so maybe it is a choice.  It just always seemed like it was Eisenhorn being a bit of a shitheel (though he makes some REALLY bad decisions for a guy who is a uber billionaire genius). 

  I guess it is likely just a plot device, to make "Space Ironside" have a weakness (putting magnetic clamps on his chair to nullify his psycher abilities and shut his chair off) that takes him out of a confrontation without killing him. 

Although I will note that Ravenor had an absolutely hilarious line that had me laughing for five minutes.

During the finale of the book, Ravenor's life-support chair is magnetically disabled and a psychic limiter is blocking him from using his powers. There's a fight, and the limiter is switched off. Cut to another character (a teenager with latent psychic powers) who says:

'Someone's about to have a bad chair day.'

 Yeah I think it add a serious flaw to a character that otherwise is pretty damned powerful, and in the later books seemed to get quite a "level up" to his psychic abilities (where he had gone from I think gamma level to alpha/alpha plus) that otherwise would make a confrontation comically easy.

  Gripes aside though I did think Abnett did a good job of showing what life in the Imperium was like for an actual walking talking human (at least one with a shitload of money and influence) and read almost like it was a series of stories about an RPG murderhobo band wandering about and looting treasure and leveling up.

Quote from: oggsmash on May 03, 2022, 11:55:30 AM


   Glaw, I can not remember his first name, but his mind was contained in a special stone and Eisenhorn made a deal with him that if he cooperated he would have his mechanicus pal make him a body to move around in.  Not only did this ignore his loyal employee's plight, it was INCREDIBLY bad judgement knowing Glaw was insanely powerful as a psycher as well as a super genius with many hidden resources all over the galaxy.

Pontious Glaw who was then shunted into a C3P0 type borg body.

Quote from: THE_Leopold on May 04, 2022, 11:05:13 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on May 03, 2022, 11:55:30 AM


   Glaw, I can not remember his first name, but his mind was contained in a special stone and Eisenhorn made a deal with him that if he cooperated he would have his mechanicus pal make him a body to move around in.  Not only did this ignore his loyal employee's plight, it was INCREDIBLY bad judgement knowing Glaw was insanely powerful as a psycher as well as a super genius with many hidden resources all over the galaxy.

Pontious Glaw who was then shunted into a C3P0 type borg body.

  The description of that body seemed like a golden T-800 than C3PO.  Which again, seems like a bad idea since the guy had as a life goal to collapse the Imperium.  I guess once you start casting daemon summoning spells judgement goes right out the window.

Quote from: Zalman on May 02, 2022, 10:57:36 AM

Quote from: The Comedian on May 02, 2022, 10:28:02 AM
Id Drop Ulisses Spiele to Red...

Ive been Raising the Black and getting their version of "Fading Suns", as I own the original and the Fasa Versions...and yeah. Every book has at least one tranny in it, and not just House Decados which Id let fly, because theyre supposed to be deviant and depraved...but every faction Ive seen has at least one, sometimes more...

What in the world are these games about that we even need to know the history of someone's gender? If we're supposed to believe that someone who's transitioned is now the other gender, then how does a character's previous gender ever come into game play?

Or, are these game authors trying to tell us that no, trans people are not after all the gender they claim to be, but something else entirely?

I mean, I remember when it came out that Arrows of Indra had transgender (third-gender) character on the cover.  Some of the SJWs claimed that I was "lying" because the character "looked like a woman".

Quote from: RPGPundit on May 04, 2022, 04:23:20 PM

Quote from: Zalman on May 02, 2022, 10:57:36 AM

Quote from: The Comedian on May 02, 2022, 10:28:02 AM
Id Drop Ulisses Spiele to Red...

Ive been Raising the Black and getting their version of "Fading Suns", as I own the original and the Fasa Versions...and yeah. Every book has at least one tranny in it, and not just House Decados which Id let fly, because theyre supposed to be deviant and depraved...but every faction Ive seen has at least one, sometimes more...

What in the world are these games about that we even need to know the history of someone's gender? If we're supposed to believe that someone who's transitioned is now the other gender, then how does a character's previous gender ever come into game play?

Or, are these game authors trying to tell us that no, trans people are not after all the gender they claim to be, but something else entirely?

I mean, I remember when it came out that Arrows of Indra had transgender (third-gender) character on the cover.  Some of the SJWs claimed that I was "lying" because the character "looked like a woman".

How would they know what a woman looks like? They can't even difine it.