Quote from: Ocule on April 19, 2022, 02:06:59 PM
Related we wuz irish https://www.irishpost.com/history/ancient-irish-people-were-black-with-blue-eyes-new-documentary-suggests-212119 and we wuz vikangz n'shiet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPXjPcbuPyQ

The Western Hunter Gatherers who preceded the Early European Farmers (and later the Indo-European/Aryan speakers who are the majority ancestry for modern Europeans) were probably darker skinned than either of the later arrivals, going by what we know of their genetics. Presenting them as looking like modern West Africans, or with actually-black skin, is completely a Woke racialist fantasy, though - in high latitude forest terrain & cloudy European climates, skin like that would be heavily selected against. A plausible skin tone for WHG would be something like modern North American Amerindians.

Quote from: S'mon on April 22, 2022, 06:19:41 AM
North American Amerindians.

That would make sense.

Then us lovely Celts arrived and drove out the ugly proto-humans.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on April 22, 2022, 06:44:10 AM
Then us lovely Celts arrived and drove out the ugly proto-humans.

Actually the Early European Farmers from Anatolia & the Levant arrived second and wiped out the (fully human) Western Hunter Gatherers. Then the lovely Celts arrived third and mostly wiped out the EEF. 

Indo-Europeans like Celts are descended from a mix of Ancient North Eurasians (some of whom also went east to the Americas) and eastern European Hunter Gatherers, who were more related to the WHG; thus Celts et al seem more closely related to the WHG than to the EFF they replaced.

Quote from: S'mon on April 22, 2022, 09:54:43 AM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on April 22, 2022, 06:44:10 AM
Then us lovely Celts arrived and drove out the ugly proto-humans.

Actually the Early European Farmers from Anatolia & the Levant arrived second and wiped out the (fully human) Western Hunter Gatherers. Then the lovely Celts arrived third and mostly wiped out the EEF. 

Indo-Europeans like Celts are descended from a mix of Ancient North Eurasians (some of whom also went east to the Americas) and eastern European Hunter Gatherers, who were more related to the WHG; thus Celts et al seem more closely related to the WHG than to the EFF they replaced.

Learn something new everyday!

Quote from: Ocule on April 19, 2022, 02:06:59 PM

Related we wuz irish https://www.irishpost.com/history/ancient-irish-people-were-black-with-blue-eyes-new-documentary-suggests-212119 and we wuz vikangz n'shiet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPXjPcbuPyQ

Also lets not forget we wuz greek https://uk.blastingnews.com/showbiz-tv/2018/02/black-achilles-bbc-at-it-again-with-politically-correct-inaccuracy-002364019.html

we wuz french https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Boleyn_(TV_series)

I'm sure they'll be visiting our little niche corner soon enough

Incidentally, the only thing they can say to any degree of accuracy is "we wuz slavs."

As an sjw wokescold etc etc, it's cool to see you guys keeping yourselves out of my hobby. If you guys want to restrict yourselves to Giantlands and TSR Hobbies, that's fine by me.

It was cool to see Luke Crane and Dungeon Crawl Classics on the Red list, I love Burning Wheel and DCC but I had honestly always assumed they leaned right. I didn't know they were cool. 

I would definitely recommend Massif Press (LANCER and Icon) for the red list. Very openly leftist, anti-imperialist, etc. The good guys in Lancer are explicitly anti-border communists. The creators are pro-BLM, queer liberation, Palestine, etc, NPCs have pronouns listed next to their names, and there is art where a character has a trans flag sticker on their hardsuit.

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
As an sjw wokescold etc etc, it's cool to see you guys keeping yourselves out of my hobby. If you guys want to restrict yourselves to Giantlands and TSR Hobbies, that's fine by me.

It was cool to see Luke Crane and Dungeon Crawl Classics on the Red list, I love Burning Wheel and DCC but I had honestly always assumed they leaned right. I didn't know they were cool. 

I would definitely recommend Massif Press (LANCER and Icon) for the red list. Very openly leftist, anti-imperialist, etc. The good guys in Lancer are explicitly anti-border communists. The creators are pro-BLM, queer liberation, Palestine, etc, NPCs have pronouns listed next to their names, and there is art where a character has a trans flag sticker on their hardsuit.

We should make a separate retard list just for you but I'm all listed out. Maybe one of these other folks will help you out and make you a posterchild for Down syndrome awareness or something. I'll be enjoying the quite sizeable entries on the green and even yellow. Now we laugh at you a second time,

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
my hobby.

lol

Quote from: Ocule on April 26, 2022, 06:41:57 PM
We should make a separate retard list just for you but I'm all listed out. Maybe one of these other folks will help you out and make you a posterchild for Down syndrome awareness or something. I'll be enjoying the quite sizeable entries on the green and even yellow. Now we laugh at you a second time,

Are you sure your group will feel safe playing those yellow games? You know that money is going to terrorist groups who want to burn down the cheesecake factory in your suburb. Even worse, your group might see brown skin...

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on April 26, 2022, 06:56:42 PM

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
my hobby.

lol

You heard me. No good hobby can continue to exist without gatekeeping, you know, and it's good that you guys acknowledge it.

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 07:51:42 PM
You heard me.

ok

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on April 26, 2022, 07:52:41 PM

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 07:51:42 PM
You heard me.

ok

Wanna bet the bedwetter is a well to do white man?

He thinks he's saving me, and other poor non-whites, because we can't stand by ourselves and need the white saviour.

At least hes honest enough to admit he's a gatekeeper and he wants to exclude people from the hobby, meanwhile we just want to exclude his douchebaggery from our table.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 26, 2022, 08:57:31 PM
admit he's a gatekeeper and he wants to exclude people from the hobby.

lol He's not doing very well in that case as we are all still playing like bastards. 

I'm personally very happy to be gatekept away from oxygen thieves like him and his ilk. Of course, I'm only too happy to gatekeep them as well - No safety tools in our games and we always advertise it as such. They run screaming!

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
As an sjw wokescold etc etc, it's cool to see you guys keeping yourselves out of my hobby. If you guys want to restrict yourselves to Giantlands and TSR Hobbies, that's fine by me.

Game night I will tell everyone that we have been canceled.

It will be hilarious and for sure will kill a NPC Groomer in your honour.

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
As an sjw wokescold etc etc, it's cool to see you guys keeping yourselves out of my hobby. If you guys want to restrict yourselves to Giantlands and TSR Hobbies, that's fine by me.

It was cool to see Luke Crane and Dungeon Crawl Classics on the Red list, I love Burning Wheel and DCC but I had honestly always assumed they leaned right. I didn't know they were cool. 

I would definitely recommend Massif Press (LANCER and Icon) for the red list. Very openly leftist, anti-imperialist, etc. The good guys in Lancer are explicitly anti-border communists. The creators are pro-BLM, queer liberation, Palestine, etc, NPCs have pronouns listed next to their names, and there is art where a character has a trans flag sticker on their hardsuit.

We're coming for your kids We're going to convert them to liking awesome stuff instead of your gray gruel.

Quote from: molybdenumrose on April 26, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
As an sjw wokescold etc etc, it's cool to see you guys keeping yourselves out of my hobby. If you guys want to restrict yourselves to Giantlands and TSR Hobbies, that's fine by me.

It was cool to see Luke Crane and Dungeon Crawl Classics on the Red list, I love Burning Wheel and DCC but I had honestly always assumed they leaned right. I didn't know they were cool. 

I would definitely recommend Massif Press (LANCER and Icon) for the red list. Very openly leftist, anti-imperialist, etc. The good guys in Lancer are explicitly anti-border communists. The creators are pro-BLM, queer liberation, Palestine, etc, NPCs have pronouns listed next to their names, and there is art where a character has a trans flag sticker on their hardsuit.

Guys, would not be amazing to create an SJW centric TTRPG. In which your character's powers and spells would be centered around ruining franchises and you win experience points by the amount of people you cancel and the amount of money you make a business lose per year? If you make a big company go bankrupt you gain a new level  . Something of the sorts will be hilarious to play in my opinion. Do you think there can be a market for such game or is to niche?