Quote from: pawsplay on March 24, 2022, 04:05:29 AM

Quote from: palaeomerus on March 24, 2022, 02:03:54 AM
No, it "comes from" a Carol Hanisch essay from the 1970s and rapidly became a tent pole slogan for "consciousness raising" efforts of 2nd wave feminism.

The sentiment behind the phrase has since been expanded into the "no escapism allowed" paradigm we see today where activists seek to incentivize the formation of a condition where all entertainment is subverted into their messaging and any counter material is condemned or suppressed resulting in something like a single allowable type of art verified by de facto boards of censorship similar to the Soviet Realism movement in the USSR and everything outside of that certification is seen as cultureless (nekulturny) and valueless if not harmful, atavistic, and destructive.

Are you drunk? Lefties don't even agree with each other.

And that's setting aside a lot of people out there like me. My only permanent political position is my undying opposition to fascism.

So youre against the Ukraine...

Quote from: rgalex on March 23, 2022, 09:25:26 PM

Quote from: The Comedian on March 23, 2022, 05:05:19 PM
More woke Bullshit:

https://www.rollvsevil.com/

How is this woke?   Right now, with the current set up, I'm not seeing it.

You play a game and they'll help you donate to a charity.  ATM the money is to help people who are in the middle of a war. 

Now, they do say they plan to change causes from time to time.  If next time it's for trans rights or BLM, ok, then maybe you can call it woke.  But even then, it's not like they are putting it into the product, or donating from the direct sale of a book.

Personally, I havent forgot what the Ukraine has been doing the past decade...

This is for pointing out "Woke" companies correct. Then it should point out companies wether its in their product or in their other practices.

If a company doesnt write something in a book, great...but if their other practices treat my views as shit...then Id like to know that...Wouldnt you

Quote from: The Comedian on March 24, 2022, 06:37:26 AM
Personally, I havent forgot what the Ukraine has been doing the past decade..

Well... I support our sovereign European brothers.

Fuck Putin's war.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on March 24, 2022, 07:36:45 AM

Quote from: The Comedian on March 24, 2022, 06:37:26 AM
Personally, I havent forgot what the Ukraine has been doing the past decade..

Well... I support our sovereign European brothers.

Fuck Putin's war.

I support the ethnic Russians being shelled by ukrainian nazis...fuck Zelenskyy

Quote from: The Comedian on March 24, 2022, 06:37:26 AM
Personally, I havent forgot what the Ukraine has been doing the past decade...

This is for pointing out "Woke" companies correct. Then it should point out companies wether its in their product or in their other practices.

If a company doesnt write something in a book, great...but if their other practices treat my views as shit...then Id like to know that...Wouldnt you

Unless something is forced into a product, they are specifically raising money for a horrible cause (BLM, Antifa bail, etc) or are spouting "We don't want you as a fan" shit on their forums, no.  I don't care what they do in their off time.

Now I haven't looked into all the charities they listed, but their stated goal is to "support small groups and charities working directly on the ground where we can see verifiable immediate results".  So even if the Ukraine government is a piece of shit, this money isn't for it.  It's for the citizens, hospitals and evacuees.  I can't find much fault with that.

Quote from: rgalex on March 24, 2022, 10:13:27 AM

Quote from: The Comedian on March 24, 2022, 06:37:26 AM
Personally, I havent forgot what the Ukraine has been doing the past decade...

This is for pointing out "Woke" companies correct. Then it should point out companies wether its in their product or in their other practices.

If a company doesnt write something in a book, great...but if their other practices treat my views as shit...then Id like to know that...Wouldnt you

Unless something is forced into a product, they are specifically raising money for a horrible cause (BLM, Antifa bail, etc) or are spouting "We don't want you as a fan" shit on their forums, no.  I don't care what they do in their off time.

Now I haven't looked into all the charities they listed, but their stated goal is to "support small groups and charities working directly on the ground where we can see verifiable immediate results".  So even if the Ukraine government is a piece of shit, this money isn't for it.  It's for the citizens, hospitals and evacuees.  I can't find much fault with that.

And you actually believe it will go to the victims...cute.

If they support a shit cause then fuck them their woke

Quote from: The Comedian on March 24, 2022, 09:00:28 AM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on March 24, 2022, 07:36:45 AM

Quote from: The Comedian on March 24, 2022, 06:37:26 AM
Personally, I havent forgot what the Ukraine has been doing the past decade..

Well... I support our sovereign European brothers.

Fuck Putin's war.

I support the ethnic Russians being shelled by ukrainian nazis...fuck Zelenskyy

lol

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on March 24, 2022, 10:40:39 AM

Quote from: The Comedian on March 24, 2022, 09:00:28 AM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on March 24, 2022, 07:36:45 AM

Quote from: The Comedian on March 24, 2022, 06:37:26 AM
Personally, I havent forgot what the Ukraine has been doing the past decade..

Well... I support our sovereign European brothers.

Fuck Putin's war.

I support the ethnic Russians being shelled by ukrainian nazis...fuck Zelenskyy

lol

Meant to say I dont support the ethnic russians being shelled by Ukrainian Nazis with support of Zelenskyy's regime which Im sure collects some of the Money for child Traffiking and Child Pornography of which the Ukraine is in the top 5...

But hey, I know the Libbies support all of that...

Russian 'facts'.

And there are absolutely no fascist right-wing groups in Russia at all. lol

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on March 24, 2022, 01:26:57 PM
Russian 'facts'.

And there are absolutely no fascist right-wing groups in Russia at all. lol

  The shelling of those areas, as well as the Ukrainian....extremist groups...are the subject of around a dozen different news bits anyone can see posted on youtube over the past 8 years.  I watched  a vice story that followed along a couple of kids who attended one of their vacation camps for kids.   They said they keep the "extreme" members of the Azov movement away from kids...as you read the white pride tattooed on the girls hamstrings who is a camp counselor. 

   Do I think Putin blew up how much he cared about that happening?  Absolutely .  I also shrug my shoulders when there have been NUMEROUS news bits and videos about that shelling and the ....racial enthusiasts.... from ABC to BBC to Aljazeera.   It seems the west completely forget they actually covered and put out video on all that stuff here recently. 

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on March 24, 2022, 01:26:57 PM
Russian 'facts'.

And there are absolutely no fascist right-wing groups in Russia at all. lol

Im not seeing facist/right wing groups fighting on the front lines with military weapons...Im not seeing multiple military units from russia flying the nazi flag/wearing nazi emblems on their uniforms...

And From the way youre talking Im pretty sure youd be one of those libbielets who scream nazi constantly...


Look you wanna be a Nazi Pedophile supporter thats on you...be proud of supporting Nazis and Pedophiles...Im proud of saying I hoppe putin turns the Ukraine into the worlds largest parking lot..

Quote from: oggsmash on March 24, 2022, 01:32:47 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on March 24, 2022, 01:26:57 PM
Russian 'facts'.

And there are absolutely no fascist right-wing groups in Russia at all. lol

  The shelling of those areas, as well as the Ukrainian....extremist groups...are the subject of around a dozen different news bits anyone can see posted on youtube over the past 8 years.  I watched  a vice story that followed along a couple of kids who attended one of their vacation camps for kids.   They said they keep the "extreme" members of the Azov movement away from kids...as you read the white pride tattooed on the girls hamstrings who is a camp counselor. 

   Do I think Putin blew up how much he cared about that happening?  Absolutely .  I also shrug my shoulders when there have been NUMEROUS news bits and videos about that shelling and the ....racial enthusiasts.... from ABC to BBC to Aljazeera.   It seems the west completely forget they actually covered and put out video on all that stuff here recently.

Oh, I don't dispute the existence of Azov (or the existence of right-wing groups in Ukraine). And I saw that Vice documentary. Scary shit...

But Russia is full of scum like that too (and don't forget the Berkut).

At the end of the day, Putin invaded a sovereign country, and I'm only too delighted that the West has banded together to put the squeeze on the Russian regime. The Russians are going to be like sitting ducks in all their shite armor as more anti-tank equipment and drones get passed over to the Ukrainians.

  And those azov guys have been attacking and shelling that region for 8 years.   People keep saying bottom line, and are happy Russia is getting squeezed...but are they?  Many in the west are still buying his oil and gas, and now they will get to pay in rubles.   I am not so sure this will end up the way my president, Joe Biden, thinks it will.

Quote from: oggsmash on March 24, 2022, 01:47:29 PM
  And those azov guys have been attacking and shelling that region for 8 years.   People keep saying bottom line, and are happy Russia is getting squeezed...but are they?  Many in the west are still buying his oil and gas, and now they will get to pay in rubles.   I am not so sure this will end up the way my president, Joe Biden, thinks it will.

Well, the Russians have been inciting and financing a proxy war up there. So, they are complicit.

This is a long-term game in order to set back Russia and it will. Put expected an easy win, but that didn't happen, and he's galvanized the West. Biden is only a small part of the equation too - when it comes to economic sanctions. The UK and Europe are now seeking to end their reliance on Russia's gas. So in the medium term, what type of victory can Putin have? Sure, he could take parts of Ukraine but he can't hold them. And I don't think they will fair too well when it goes to Urban Guerilla warfare with the equipment/training supplied by Nato.

And if Putin 'escalates' Nato will have to get involved. Of course, I hope Putin will see sense before that ever happens.

  IN any event, I think info from that region is a mess.  I think a charity to help the people who's lives are getting blown apart by war is a good idea.  I am a little wary of charities in the massive anonymous form just because "administrative" costs always make me raise an eyebrow.  My other concern with that particular charity, is right now it seems in the USA it is the NEW THING that everyone must show concern for and show a proper level of concern, just like other concerns in recent history were.   

    I look at it with optimism, and hope all of the donations from that charitable effort end up in the hands of the people who need them.