Quote from: Ocule on August 10, 2021, 11:55:49 AM
Also someone mentioned earlier Gallant Knight Games threatening to punch someone in the face at a con, any links or or sources on that?

   Threatening face to face, or said it on the twatter while at a con? 

Quote from: Ghostmaker on August 10, 2021, 02:32:39 PM
Paranoia is almost a special case in my opinion, since the game is heavily weighted AGAINST being fair.

Having a 'don't be a dick' section in the GM manual doesn't strike me as excessive or wokeist. And honestly, it's less 'let's all be nice to each other' and more 'don't make it personal cause that's no fun'.

+1

I mean, I have problems with the new Paranoia, but if any game needs a section on helping GMs to not bully their players it's Paranoia.  Mainly because it'll tell GMs in the same breath "kill the bastards" as a session goal.  A good GM can walk that line.  A bad one... probably needs some help.

Quote from: Godsmonkey on August 10, 2021, 08:15:26 AM
I know at my table for example, half the players are female. As a GM, I welcome any set of minis (Either premade, or, for me, 3D files to print myself) that has gender diversity.

It's not a historically accurate army, it's fantasy. If it's pandering to recognize the need for female minis, especially since there are more women playing RPGs than ever before, then so be it.

In my eyes, it's just good old capitalism; recognizing a market, and making a product people will buy.

99% of the time I'd agree.  My one exception is when the fantasy fluff is specific about Faction X being "boys only" or "girls only" (e.g. W40k and its Space Marines).

Coming up with a new(ish) setting, and you want to have boys -and- girls in golden magical armor?  Go for it.  Cramming girls into a 30+ year old IP?  Tokenism.

As owner/designer, I can confirm that Autarch/ACKS is solid green.

Modiphius not Mophidius (yes I often scan/read it as Mophidius too)

Asmodee not Asmodeus even though it's a variant of Asmodeus

QuoteReaper Miniatures Fired a guy from criticizing antifa on a personal page. Antifa supporters are automatic red

Are you sure on this one? I remember when it happened. He told some guy online that was calling everyone Nazis that he had no idea what a real Nazi was (which was true). It resulted in this idiot cancelling his pledge. The owner, I believe, asked the employee to refrain debating with customers, and the employee was upset at costing his company a sale. What happened after that I'm unsure of, but I took a tour of the factory and he was the one that gave the tour. 

Quote from: HappyDaze on August 10, 2021, 07:30:41 AM...
Ok, any women in your little army figs is too much for you. Got it. You have issues, buddy, and I thank you for making them so obvious to all.

Are you ok? Because it looks like someone just said that they have an army of female figures and your response to that was; "Aha, so you are not ok with any female figures!".

Quote from: happyhermit on August 10, 2021, 10:42:25 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on August 10, 2021, 07:30:41 AM...
Ok, any women in your little army figs is too much for you. Got it. You have issues, buddy, and I thank you for making them so obvious to all.

Are you ok? Because it looks like someone just said that they have an army of female figures and your response to that was; "Aha, so you are not ok with any female figures!".

You are forgetting in new speak, having a female army means you are fetishising women and co-opting them into your patriarchal oppression.

Which is, at the end of the day, even worse then hating on female figures.

Generally crass & snarky mental diagnoses based on partisan "tit for tat" contempt aren't going to tend to be especially well reasoned or demonstrated. I think GW is definitely doing it mainly for woke pandering fad compliance of "fierce stronk wammen is best champion", but I don't mind it that much. And if something HAS to be subjected to that the vapid silly MishMash of the mortal realms Lore is a damned good pick to take that hit. An exaggerated marketing focus on a Lady Stormcast with a suicide girls haircut is simply not the big thing that is wrong with AOS. Goofy shaggy fog high fantasy incoherence is. Not that I am against incoherence, and slap dash fun pastiche where things happen just because they seemed cool at the time. I just don't see that as Warhammer. I need more northern renaissance and there should be a Nuln for all that Nuln oil shader ink to be named after. Right now Warhammer is some hazy Opium Den version of its former self. MOAR SKELETONZ! MOAR RATS! MOAR LIZARD MEN AND NEKKID ELFY SORCERESS THANGS! MOAR DEAMONS! MOAR TREEZ!  Right now it is so everything that it's kind of nothing at all.

Quote from: palaeomerus on August 11, 2021, 02:05:41 AM
Generally crass & snarky mental diagnoses based on partisan "tit for tat" contempt aren't going to tend to be especially well reasoned or demonstrated. I think GW is definitely doing it mainly for woke pandering fad compliance of "fierce stronk wammen is best champion", but I don't mind it that much. And if something HAS to be subjected to that the vapid silly MishMash of the mortal realms Lore is a damned good pick to take that hit. An exaggerated marketing focus on a Lady Stormcast with a suicide girls haircut is simply not the big thing that is wrong with AOS. Goofy shaggy fog high fantasy incoherence is. Not that I am against incoherence, and slap dash fun pastiche where things happen just because they seemed cool at the time. I just don't see that as Warhammer. I need more northern renaissance and there should be a Nuln for all that Nuln oil shader ink to be named after. Right now Warhammer is some hazy Opium Den version of its former self. MOAR SKELETONZ! MOAR RATS! MOAR LIZARD MEN AND NEKKID ELFY SORCERESS THANGS! MOAR DEAMONS! MOAR TREEZ!  Right now it is so everything that it's kind of nothing at all.

You all forgot (or maybe didn't know about) the "Warhammer is for everyone but..." statement by GW?

IMHO they could be as woke free in the games text, art, etc just by that statement they need to be on the RED cathegory. Not to mention all of their other shitty and anti-consumer practices.


You wouldn't buy Myfarog but you'll give money to other racists?
Race based hiring:

So, there's an aspect to all this that may have something to do with what a lot of the companies (GW for example) are doing. Now, this ties into RPGs in a business way, so Pundit please ponder the value of this before you shitcan me. 

If you're a corporation, then you have stocks. Stocks are bought and traded by stock brokers, and brokers have a particular scoring system (I can't recall the name of it at the moment) which they use to gauge whether or not a corp's stock is worth investing in. That scoring system has about three or four aspects... one is the environmentally friendly position of the corp... another is... what for it... how socially progressive the corporation is. Yes, that's an actual factor.

I suspect corporations like WOTC and GW are upping their desirability score with the brokers by making public statements, hiring diverse staff, and all the other pleasantries that go along with that sort of thing. 

I mean... if I were on the board for a corp like that, I'd consider it.

Quote from: Semaj Khan on August 11, 2021, 12:39:47 PM
So, there's an aspect to all this that may have something to do with what a lot of the companies (GW for example) are doing. Now, this ties into RPGs in a business way, so Pundit please ponder the value of this before you shitcan me. 

If you're a corporation, then you have stocks. Stocks are bought and traded by stock brokers, and brokers have a particular scoring system (I can't recall the name of it at the moment) which they use to gauge whether or not a corp's stock is worth investing in. That scoring system has about three or four aspects... one is the environmentally friendly position of the corp... another is... what for it... how socially progressive the corporation is. Yes, that's an actual factor.

I suspect corporations like WOTC and GW are upping their desirability score with the brokers by making public statements, hiring diverse staff, and all the other pleasantries that go along with that sort of thing. 

I mean... if I were on the board for a corp like that, I'd consider it.

  This works for the big names that are publicly traded--which is pretty much just WotC (as part of Hasbro), possibly GW, and maybe FFG and Daniel Fox's stuff (he's gotten into the big bookstores through Andrew McNeels Publishing). There may be a couple of others who are attached to big corporations I'm forgetting. Everyone else on the Red list is probably either cowed or a True Believer.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on August 11, 2021, 01:44:10 PM

Quote from: Semaj Khan on August 11, 2021, 12:39:47 PM
So, there's an aspect to all this that may have something to do with what a lot of the companies (GW for example) are doing. Now, this ties into RPGs in a business way, so Pundit please ponder the value of this before you shitcan me. 

If you're a corporation, then you have stocks. Stocks are bought and traded by stock brokers, and brokers have a particular scoring system (I can't recall the name of it at the moment) which they use to gauge whether or not a corp's stock is worth investing in. That scoring system has about three or four aspects... one is the environmentally friendly position of the corp... another is... what for it... how socially progressive the corporation is. Yes, that's an actual factor.

I suspect corporations like WOTC and GW are upping their desirability score with the brokers by making public statements, hiring diverse staff, and all the other pleasantries that go along with that sort of thing. 

I mean... if I were on the board for a corp like that, I'd consider it.

  This works for the big names that are publicly traded--which is pretty much just WotC (as part of Hasbro), possibly GW, and maybe FFG and Daniel Fox's stuff (he's gotten into the big bookstores through Andrew McNeels Publishing). There may be a couple of others who are attached to big corporations I'm forgetting. Everyone else on the Red list is probably either cowed or a True Believer.

Sure, I don't see it as a blanket answer. It does have to be a factor though. GW is traded, FFG is owned by a private equity. I doubt about DF.

Quote from: TheShadowSpawn on August 10, 2021, 07:39:52 PM

QuoteReaper Miniatures Fired a guy from criticizing antifa on a personal page. Antifa supporters are automatic red

Are you sure on this one? I remember when it happened. He told some guy online that was calling everyone Nazis that he had no idea what a real Nazi was (which was true). It resulted in this idiot cancelling his pledge. The owner, I believe, asked the employee to refrain debating with customers, and the employee was upset at costing his company a sale. What happened after that I'm unsure of, but I took a tour of the factory and he was the one that gave the tour.

A lot of these entries feel like a bad version of the telegraph game to me.  "I heard this one guy say something about another guy 15 years ago.  Maybe."

I thought a place like this would focus on the quality of the game, not the purported politics of the creator.  Otherwise you're participating in 'cancel culture'.

If something is wrong, it doesn't stop being wrong because you want to do it, too.