Quote from: Merrill on August 06, 2021, 09:16:13 AM

Quote from: jhkim on August 05, 2021, 06:27:36 PM

Quote from: Merrill on August 05, 2021, 01:53:25 PM
Varg made some claim like 20 years ago that he supported Naziism.

He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook. I haven't seen anything remotely "Nazi" from him, and he has said that MYFAROG is not racist.

Back in the day he wanted to be this heavy metal edge lord --that is what it was like in Europe in he late 80s and early 90s. The metal heads all tried to shock the public through devil worship, swastikas, etc. it was all an act.

but Varg continues to be this boogeyman

Quote from: SHARK on August 05, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Black is beautiful. Black, black, black. Black people are good, innocent, and wonderful. Everything black people think and do is just great. All you non-black people should just get used to the idea of being on your knees and worshipping BLACK KINGS AND BLACK QUEENS!

It is the woke dream to be slaves to the black masters. Welcome to the new, glorious age!

Thankfully, one can get away from this by playing MYFAROG. There, blacks (sorry, "darklings") are properly statted out -- like this:



But according to Merrill, Varg says that it's not racist, so it must be so.

When this issue of Darklings being black people came up, Varg released a video stating that these are fantasy races --they have things like fangs, and are not analogues to human beings

I don't have the game in front of me, but I also recall some group of swarthy nomadic pirate-types. They weren't "evil" in any essential way, just a bit untrustworthy and alien. Perhaps Gypsy-like.

AD&D has black-skinned Drow and Orcs --but they get a pass here? None of these fantasy races are African people, nor have they ever been.

Now if Varg came right out and said his game was some allegory of the struggle of Swedes against the savages of our planet, or made a bunch of cryptic statements that connected Africans to mongrels, etc. that would be a different story altogether.

In short,the designer says his game is inspired by other RPGs released in the previous decades and it is all fantasy. I don't need my games to be sanitized by leftist activists, or submitted to "sensitivity readers" to mke sure I am protected.

MYFAROG isn't even edgy at all. LotFP is way darker and edgier, and games from a while back, like Necroscope, were really disturbing and for mature audiences.

Darkling, Weakling, Foreigner, Native... From a guy that at the very least was a Neo-Nazi... Not sure I'm going to trust him on anything he says.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 06, 2021, 11:50:42 AM

Quote from: Merrill on August 06, 2021, 09:16:13 AM

Quote from: jhkim on August 05, 2021, 06:27:36 PM

Quote from: Merrill on August 05, 2021, 01:53:25 PM
Varg made some claim like 20 years ago that he supported Naziism.

He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook. I haven't seen anything remotely "Nazi" from him, and he has said that MYFAROG is not racist.

Back in the day he wanted to be this heavy metal edge lord --that is what it was like in Europe in he late 80s and early 90s. The metal heads all tried to shock the public through devil worship, swastikas, etc. it was all an act.

but Varg continues to be this boogeyman

Quote from: SHARK on August 05, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Black is beautiful. Black, black, black. Black people are good, innocent, and wonderful. Everything black people think and do is just great. All you non-black people should just get used to the idea of being on your knees and worshipping BLACK KINGS AND BLACK QUEENS!

It is the woke dream to be slaves to the black masters. Welcome to the new, glorious age!

Thankfully, one can get away from this by playing MYFAROG. There, blacks (sorry, "darklings") are properly statted out -- like this:



But according to Merrill, Varg says that it's not racist, so it must be so.

When this issue of Darklings being black people came up, Varg released a video stating that these are fantasy races --they have things like fangs, and are not analogues to human beings

I don't have the game in front of me, but I also recall some group of swarthy nomadic pirate-types. They weren't "evil" in any essential way, just a bit untrustworthy and alien. Perhaps Gypsy-like.

AD&D has black-skinned Drow and Orcs --but they get a pass here? None of these fantasy races are African people, nor have they ever been.

Now if Varg came right out and said his game was some allegory of the struggle of Swedes against the savages of our planet, or made a bunch of cryptic statements that connected Africans to mongrels, etc. that would be a different story altogether.

In short,the designer says his game is inspired by other RPGs released in the previous decades and it is all fantasy. I don't need my games to be sanitized by leftist activists, or submitted to "sensitivity readers" to mke sure I am protected.

MYFAROG isn't even edgy at all. LotFP is way darker and edgier, and games from a while back, like Necroscope, were really disturbing and for mature audiences.

Darkling, Weakling, Foreigner, Native... From a guy that at the very least was a Neo-Nazi... Not sure I'm going to trust him on anything he says.

Varg is not some garden variety Neo-Nazi either.  He's murderer and an arsonist.

I believe in judging people by their actions and... well... yeah.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 06, 2021, 11:50:42 AM

Quote from: Merrill on August 06, 2021, 09:16:13 AM

Quote from: jhkim on August 05, 2021, 06:27:36 PM

Quote from: Merrill on August 05, 2021, 01:53:25 PM
Varg made some claim like 20 years ago that he supported Naziism.

He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook. I haven't seen anything remotely "Nazi" from him, and he has said that MYFAROG is not racist.

Back in the day he wanted to be this heavy metal edge lord --that is what it was like in Europe in he late 80s and early 90s. The metal heads all tried to shock the public through devil worship, swastikas, etc. it was all an act.

but Varg continues to be this boogeyman

Quote from: SHARK on August 05, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Black is beautiful. Black, black, black. Black people are good, innocent, and wonderful. Everything black people think and do is just great. All you non-black people should just get used to the idea of being on your knees and worshipping BLACK KINGS AND BLACK QUEENS!

It is the woke dream to be slaves to the black masters. Welcome to the new, glorious age!

Thankfully, one can get away from this by playing MYFAROG. There, blacks (sorry, "darklings") are properly statted out -- like this:



But according to Merrill, Varg says that it's not racist, so it must be so.

When this issue of Darklings being black people came up, Varg released a video stating that these are fantasy races --they have things like fangs, and are not analogues to human beings

I don't have the game in front of me, but I also recall some group of swarthy nomadic pirate-types. They weren't "evil" in any essential way, just a bit untrustworthy and alien. Perhaps Gypsy-like.

AD&D has black-skinned Drow and Orcs --but they get a pass here? None of these fantasy races are African people, nor have they ever been.

Now if Varg came right out and said his game was some allegory of the struggle of Swedes against the savages of our planet, or made a bunch of cryptic statements that connected Africans to mongrels, etc. that would be a different story altogether.

In short,the designer says his game is inspired by other RPGs released in the previous decades and it is all fantasy. I don't need my games to be sanitized by leftist activists, or submitted to "sensitivity readers" to mke sure I am protected.

MYFAROG isn't even edgy at all. LotFP is way darker and edgier, and games from a while back, like Necroscope, were really disturbing and for mature audiences.

Darkling, Weakling, Foreigner, Native... From a guy that at the very least was a Neo-Nazi... Not sure I'm going to trust him on anything he says.

OK, I actually had to go back a couple editions (the new ones don't use the above species and table) to find this. And on page 5 of MYFAROG 2.4 it says:

"Darklings and Weaklines are the names of the only known races of the swarthy and cruel Arbi species ...they have fang-like teeth"

so like Varg says in his video, these are NOT humans --they are like orcs or goblins

the Foreigners are human traders or merchants from some distant land --they are not described as criminal, animals, whatever. Sure, they don't get the bonuses the elves and God fathered get, but they are like common humans in D&D, aka not heroes.

The Darklings and Weaklings get penalties to some stats because they are not suited to live in the arctic climate where the game takes place

So if you are reading between the lines here and see black people, that is on you bro. I never thought that quite frankly

Quote from: RPGPundit on August 06, 2021, 08:58:48 AM

Quote from: Torque2100 on August 06, 2021, 07:18:47 AM
I'm willing to give Goodman Games the benefit of the doubt.  A lot of people were caught up in the Black Lives Matter craze from last summer.  The fact is, if we purity test absolutely every publisher, we'll be gaming alone.  I will be watching their products closely for the appearance of ranty "No Fascists Allowed" disclaimers in their books.

I would like to direct your attention to an evergreen thread by Aaron the Pedantic about the difference between themes and direct political messaging.

Well, I agree to a certain extent. Most of the truly Woke crowd will be unable to resist putting their messaging as propaganda directly into their products.

However, there are some who don't. Some designers (myself included) are very obviously political in their public statements and yet do not port these politics into their products. None of my products have an overt (or even really covert) contemporary political partisanship in their content (I mean, maybe the closest I get to that might be The Invisible College, as it's a modern setting, but the political message is at best a clear preference for 18th century classical liberalism, and individualism over collectivism).

When it comes to Woke designers, the question then depends on whether what you care about is "do they make cool games that don't try to force feed you political propaganda?" OR "do the people who made these books and presumably will profit from them loudly proclaim an ideology that wants to see your country, family, or lives destroyed?".

Honestly for that alone I'm still willing to support companies like Goodman honestly, because aside from that singular post and distancing from Judge's Guild (although a lot of people did at the time), there isn't anything political I've seen and it's nice to see zany gonzo every now and then. Imo Goodman falls into that first category in your question, cool game and they don't force feed it basically at all.

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on August 06, 2021, 10:35:49 PM
Honestly for that alone I'm still willing to support companies like Goodman honestly, because aside from that singular post and distancing from Judge's Guild (although a lot of people did at the time), there isn't anything political I've seen and it's nice to see zany gonzo every now and then. Imo Goodman falls into that first category in your question, cool game and they don't force feed it basically at all.

I like Goodman as well, and don't see a problem.

As to the backing off JG: I basically need a score card these last few years, but IIRC JG stayed in bed with Bill Webb, and Bill's had some serious stank on him. I think that's caused JG some problems... am I right?

Quote from: Semaj Khan on August 06, 2021, 10:42:31 PM

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on August 06, 2021, 10:35:49 PM
Honestly for that alone I'm still willing to support companies like Goodman honestly, because aside from that singular post and distancing from Judge's Guild (although a lot of people did at the time), there isn't anything political I've seen and it's nice to see zany gonzo every now and then. Imo Goodman falls into that first category in your question, cool game and they don't force feed it basically at all.

I like Goodman as well, and don't see a problem.

As to the backing off JG: I basically need a score card these last few years, but IIRC JG stayed in bed with Bill Webb, and Bill's had some serious stank on him. I think that's caused JG some problems... am I right?

I think that's the gist of it, at least from what I remember

Quote from: Merrill on August 06, 2021, 09:54:34 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 06, 2021, 11:50:42 AM

Quote from: Merrill on August 06, 2021, 09:16:13 AM

Quote from: jhkim on August 05, 2021, 06:27:36 PM

Quote from: Merrill on August 05, 2021, 01:53:25 PM
Varg made some claim like 20 years ago that he supported Naziism.

He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook. I haven't seen anything remotely "Nazi" from him, and he has said that MYFAROG is not racist.

Back in the day he wanted to be this heavy metal edge lord --that is what it was like in Europe in he late 80s and early 90s. The metal heads all tried to shock the public through devil worship, swastikas, etc. it was all an act.

but Varg continues to be this boogeyman

Quote from: SHARK on August 05, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Black is beautiful. Black, black, black. Black people are good, innocent, and wonderful. Everything black people think and do is just great. All you non-black people should just get used to the idea of being on your knees and worshipping BLACK KINGS AND BLACK QUEENS!

It is the woke dream to be slaves to the black masters. Welcome to the new, glorious age!

Thankfully, one can get away from this by playing MYFAROG. There, blacks (sorry, "darklings") are properly statted out -- like this:



But according to Merrill, Varg says that it's not racist, so it must be so.

When this issue of Darklings being black people came up, Varg released a video stating that these are fantasy races --they have things like fangs, and are not analogues to human beings

I don't have the game in front of me, but I also recall some group of swarthy nomadic pirate-types. They weren't "evil" in any essential way, just a bit untrustworthy and alien. Perhaps Gypsy-like.

AD&D has black-skinned Drow and Orcs --but they get a pass here? None of these fantasy races are African people, nor have they ever been.

Now if Varg came right out and said his game was some allegory of the struggle of Swedes against the savages of our planet, or made a bunch of cryptic statements that connected Africans to mongrels, etc. that would be a different story altogether.

In short,the designer says his game is inspired by other RPGs released in the previous decades and it is all fantasy. I don't need my games to be sanitized by leftist activists, or submitted to "sensitivity readers" to mke sure I am protected.

MYFAROG isn't even edgy at all. LotFP is way darker and edgier, and games from a while back, like Necroscope, were really disturbing and for mature audiences.

Darkling, Weakling, Foreigner, Native... From a guy that at the very least was a Neo-Nazi... Not sure I'm going to trust him on anything he says.

OK, I actually had to go back a couple editions (the new ones don't use the above species and table) to find this. And on page 5 of MYFAROG 2.4 it says:

"Darklings and Weaklines are the names of the only known races of the swarthy and cruel Arbi species ...they have fang-like teeth"

so like Varg says in his video, these are NOT humans --they are like orcs or goblins

the Foreigners are human traders or merchants from some distant land --they are not described as criminal, animals, whatever. Sure, they don't get the bonuses the elves and God fathered get, but they are like common humans in D&D, aka not heroes.

The Darklings and Weaklings get penalties to some stats because they are not suited to live in the arctic climate where the game takes place

So if you are reading between the lines here and see black people, that is on you bro. I never thought that quite frankly

So the Norse had a name for the indigenous population of North America... skraeling... and the word has several meanings one of which is "weakling." That may be the weakling reference in that chart.

Quote from: Merrill on August 05, 2021, 01:53:25 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on August 05, 2021, 10:40:58 AM

Quote from: Ocule on August 05, 2021, 10:23:38 AM

Quote from: Torque2100 on August 05, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
As far as the Mork Borg OGL anti-racism clause goes, that seems to be a pre-emptive defensive measure to keep Varg Vikernes away.

Shit I dont know how I didn't put two and two together than Varg Vikinges was the guy from Mayhem who murdered someone which is the same guy who wrote MyFarog. Though I hear from some people who have played MyFarog that it's not what it was made out to be. Last I heard he moved on from that life, but it's not like i was following his life story very closely. Unfortunately he's been yeeted from all the major social media and streaming platforms so it is difficult to tell what has actually become of him if he is truly reformed.

What is the consensus here?

He's a literal Nazi. It's part of why even though I spend a considerable amount of time fighting him and his fans, the SJWs always try to include him in a list of people who are the furthest thing from nazis but that they want to smear.

Varg made some claim like 20 years ago that he supported Naziism.

He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook. I haven't seen anything remotely "Nazi" from him, and he has said that MYFAROG is not racist.

Back in the day he wanted to be this heavy metal edge lord --that is what it was like in Europe in he late 80s and early 90s. The metal heads all tried to shock the public through devil worship, swastikas, etc. it was all an act.

but Varg continues to be this boogeyman

Varg continues to espouse racist ideology loudly and openly you absolute dimbulb. And he didn't "make a claim". He made a series of racist statements, elaborated on them, has written two books of racist propaganda, and continues to tweet stuff like this:







God damn you are dumb.

Some more to add to the list I guess:

David Black (The Black Hack) - I know he tried to cancel pundit once and is very vocal politically but it isn't in his game(s) at all from what I can see?

Schwalb Entertainment (Shadow of the Demon Lord) - I remember some hubub about then some time ago but never followed because I'm not a big fan of their game

Quote from: Merrill on August 06, 2021, 09:16:13 AM

Quote from: jhkim on August 05, 2021, 06:27:36 PM

Quote from: Merrill on August 05, 2021, 01:53:25 PM
Varg made some claim like 20 years ago that he supported Naziism.

He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook. I haven't seen anything remotely "Nazi" from him, and he has said that MYFAROG is not racist.

Back in the day he wanted to be this heavy metal edge lord --that is what it was like in Europe in he late 80s and early 90s. The metal heads all tried to shock the public through devil worship, swastikas, etc. it was all an act.

but Varg continues to be this boogeyman

Quote from: SHARK on August 05, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Black is beautiful. Black, black, black. Black people are good, innocent, and wonderful. Everything black people think and do is just great. All you non-black people should just get used to the idea of being on your knees and worshipping BLACK KINGS AND BLACK QUEENS!

It is the woke dream to be slaves to the black masters. Welcome to the new, glorious age!

Thankfully, one can get away from this by playing MYFAROG. There, blacks (sorry, "darklings") are properly statted out -- like this:



But according to Merrill, Varg says that it's not racist, so it must be so.

When this issue of Darklings being black people came up, Varg released a video stating that these are fantasy races --they have things like fangs, and are not analogues to human beings

I don't have the game in front of me, but I also recall some group of swarthy nomadic pirate-types. They weren't "evil" in any essential way, just a bit untrustworthy and alien. Perhaps Gypsy-like.

AD&D has black-skinned Drow and Orcs --but they get a pass here? None of these fantasy races are African people, nor have they ever been.

Now if Varg came right out and said his game was some allegory of the struggle of Swedes against the savages of our planet, or made a bunch of cryptic statements that connected Africans to mongrels, etc. that would be a different story altogether.

In short,the designer says his game is inspired by other RPGs released in the previous decades and it is all fantasy. I don't need my games to be sanitized by leftist activists, or submitted to "sensitivity readers" to mke sure I am protected.

MYFAROG isn't even edgy at all. LotFP is way darker and edgier, and games from a while back, like Necroscope, were really disturbing and for mature audiences.

I'm sorry, but in the edition I saw, the Kopparmen, who are divided into two totally different groups called "weaklings" (who are very clearly meant to be a thinly veiled analogy for Jews and Arabs) and "darklings" (who are very clearly meant to be a thinly veiled analogy for black people), are an OBVIOUS racial statement, and only now has there been this attempt to use the disgusting SJW "Orcs are blacks" claim as a COVER for that neo-nazi bullshit.

Which is just another crime by the SJWs. They make it so hard to convince people that Varg Vikernes really is a Nazi and myfarog a Nazi game.

Quote from: Merrill on August 06, 2021, 09:54:34 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 06, 2021, 11:50:42 AM

Quote from: Merrill on August 06, 2021, 09:16:13 AM

Quote from: jhkim on August 05, 2021, 06:27:36 PM

Quote from: Merrill on August 05, 2021, 01:53:25 PM
Varg made some claim like 20 years ago that he supported Naziism.

He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook. I haven't seen anything remotely "Nazi" from him, and he has said that MYFAROG is not racist.

Back in the day he wanted to be this heavy metal edge lord --that is what it was like in Europe in he late 80s and early 90s. The metal heads all tried to shock the public through devil worship, swastikas, etc. it was all an act.

but Varg continues to be this boogeyman

Quote from: SHARK on August 05, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Black is beautiful. Black, black, black. Black people are good, innocent, and wonderful. Everything black people think and do is just great. All you non-black people should just get used to the idea of being on your knees and worshipping BLACK KINGS AND BLACK QUEENS!

It is the woke dream to be slaves to the black masters. Welcome to the new, glorious age!

Thankfully, one can get away from this by playing MYFAROG. There, blacks (sorry, "darklings") are properly statted out -- like this:



But according to Merrill, Varg says that it's not racist, so it must be so.

When this issue of Darklings being black people came up, Varg released a video stating that these are fantasy races --they have things like fangs, and are not analogues to human beings

I don't have the game in front of me, but I also recall some group of swarthy nomadic pirate-types. They weren't "evil" in any essential way, just a bit untrustworthy and alien. Perhaps Gypsy-like.

AD&D has black-skinned Drow and Orcs --but they get a pass here? None of these fantasy races are African people, nor have they ever been.

Now if Varg came right out and said his game was some allegory of the struggle of Swedes against the savages of our planet, or made a bunch of cryptic statements that connected Africans to mongrels, etc. that would be a different story altogether.

In short,the designer says his game is inspired by other RPGs released in the previous decades and it is all fantasy. I don't need my games to be sanitized by leftist activists, or submitted to "sensitivity readers" to mke sure I am protected.

MYFAROG isn't even edgy at all. LotFP is way darker and edgier, and games from a while back, like Necroscope, were really disturbing and for mature audiences.

Darkling, Weakling, Foreigner, Native... From a guy that at the very least was a Neo-Nazi... Not sure I'm going to trust him on anything he says.

OK, I actually had to go back a couple editions (the new ones don't use the above species and table) to find this. And on page 5 of MYFAROG 2.4 it says:

"Darklings and Weaklines are the names of the only known races of the swarthy and cruel Arbi species ...they have fang-like teeth"

so like Varg says in his video, these are NOT humans --they are like orcs or goblins

the Foreigners are human traders or merchants from some distant land --they are not described as criminal, animals, whatever. Sure, they don't get the bonuses the elves and God fathered get, but they are like common humans in D&D, aka not heroes.

The Darklings and Weaklings get penalties to some stats because they are not suited to live in the arctic climate where the game takes place

So if you are reading between the lines here and see black people, that is on you bro. I never thought that quite frankly

This is complete bullshit. The kopparmen are obviously other races. The coverage of it in later editions in an attempt to FOOL idiots or give cover to fellow nazis (which are you, Merrill, an idiot or a Nazi?) doesn't change that.

The game itself is based on the MADE-UP PROTO-NAZI "thulean" fantasy of the make-believe Aryan Supercivilization.

Quote from: RPGPundit on August 07, 2021, 05:02:28 PM

Quote from: Merrill on August 06, 2021, 09:54:34 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 06, 2021, 11:50:42 AM

Quote from: Merrill on August 06, 2021, 09:16:13 AM

Quote from: jhkim on August 05, 2021, 06:27:36 PM

Quote from: Merrill on August 05, 2021, 01:53:25 PM
Varg made some claim like 20 years ago that he supported Naziism.

He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook. I haven't seen anything remotely "Nazi" from him, and he has said that MYFAROG is not racist.

Back in the day he wanted to be this heavy metal edge lord --that is what it was like in Europe in he late 80s and early 90s. The metal heads all tried to shock the public through devil worship, swastikas, etc. it was all an act.

but Varg continues to be this boogeyman

Quote from: SHARK on August 05, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Black is beautiful. Black, black, black. Black people are good, innocent, and wonderful. Everything black people think and do is just great. All you non-black people should just get used to the idea of being on your knees and worshipping BLACK KINGS AND BLACK QUEENS!

It is the woke dream to be slaves to the black masters. Welcome to the new, glorious age!

Thankfully, one can get away from this by playing MYFAROG. There, blacks (sorry, "darklings") are properly statted out -- like this:



But according to Merrill, Varg says that it's not racist, so it must be so.

When this issue of Darklings being black people came up, Varg released a video stating that these are fantasy races --they have things like fangs, and are not analogues to human beings

I don't have the game in front of me, but I also recall some group of swarthy nomadic pirate-types. They weren't "evil" in any essential way, just a bit untrustworthy and alien. Perhaps Gypsy-like.

AD&D has black-skinned Drow and Orcs --but they get a pass here? None of these fantasy races are African people, nor have they ever been.

Now if Varg came right out and said his game was some allegory of the struggle of Swedes against the savages of our planet, or made a bunch of cryptic statements that connected Africans to mongrels, etc. that would be a different story altogether.

In short,the designer says his game is inspired by other RPGs released in the previous decades and it is all fantasy. I don't need my games to be sanitized by leftist activists, or submitted to "sensitivity readers" to mke sure I am protected.

MYFAROG isn't even edgy at all. LotFP is way darker and edgier, and games from a while back, like Necroscope, were really disturbing and for mature audiences.

Darkling, Weakling, Foreigner, Native... From a guy that at the very least was a Neo-Nazi... Not sure I'm going to trust him on anything he says.

OK, I actually had to go back a couple editions (the new ones don't use the above species and table) to find this. And on page 5 of MYFAROG 2.4 it says:

"Darklings and Weaklines are the names of the only known races of the swarthy and cruel Arbi species ...they have fang-like teeth"

so like Varg says in his video, these are NOT humans --they are like orcs or goblins

the Foreigners are human traders or merchants from some distant land --they are not described as criminal, animals, whatever. Sure, they don't get the bonuses the elves and God fathered get, but they are like common humans in D&D, aka not heroes.

The Darklings and Weaklings get penalties to some stats because they are not suited to live in the arctic climate where the game takes place

So if you are reading between the lines here and see black people, that is on you bro. I never thought that quite frankly

This is complete bullshit. The kopparmen are obviously other races. The coverage of it in later editions in an attempt to FOOL idiots or give cover to fellow nazis (which are you, Merrill, an idiot or a Nazi?) doesn't change that.

The game itself is based on the MADE-UP PROTO-NAZI "thulean" fantasy of the make-believe Aryan Supercivilization.

Nothing wrong with playing a game based around the Aryan myth though.

This is a pretty accurate review of myfarog:  https://www.metalsucks.net/2015/08/21/advanced-discrimination-dragons-critical-look-varg-vikernes-myfarog-rpg/

Note that the whole "kopparmen aren't humans" claim falls apart when Myfarog openly states that their thinly-veiled Jesus analogy was "half kopparman" (Varg hates christianity and is mostly a pagan just because Christianity was a 'jewish religion') and that that the Sicarii (a historically real Jewish organization) are Kopparmen (and are "for some inexplicable reason dedicated to depopulating thule").



It's a Nazi game.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 07, 2021, 04:36:19 PM

Quote from: Merrill on August 05, 2021, 01:53:25 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on August 05, 2021, 10:40:58 AM

Quote from: Ocule on August 05, 2021, 10:23:38 AM

Quote from: Torque2100 on August 05, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
As far as the Mork Borg OGL anti-racism clause goes, that seems to be a pre-emptive defensive measure to keep Varg Vikernes away.

Shit I dont know how I didn't put two and two together than Varg Vikinges was the guy from Mayhem who murdered someone which is the same guy who wrote MyFarog. Though I hear from some people who have played MyFarog that it's not what it was made out to be. Last I heard he moved on from that life, but it's not like i was following his life story very closely. Unfortunately he's been yeeted from all the major social media and streaming platforms so it is difficult to tell what has actually become of him if he is truly reformed.

What is the consensus here?

He's a literal Nazi. It's part of why even though I spend a considerable amount of time fighting him and his fans, the SJWs always try to include him in a list of people who are the furthest thing from nazis but that they want to smear.

Varg made some claim like 20 years ago that he supported Naziism.

He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook. I haven't seen anything remotely "Nazi" from him, and he has said that MYFAROG is not racist.

Back in the day he wanted to be this heavy metal edge lord --that is what it was like in Europe in he late 80s and early 90s. The metal heads all tried to shock the public through devil worship, swastikas, etc. it was all an act.

but Varg continues to be this boogeyman

Varg continues to espouse racist ideology loudly and openly you absolute dimbulb. And he didn't "make a claim". He made a series of racist statements, elaborated on them, has written two books of racist propaganda, and continues to tweet stuff like this:







God damn you are dumb.

it's nice you found time to dig through Varg''s Twitter history to find evidence of racism. I am not even on Twitter, and I actually have a life, so ...

I don't need to defend Varg --if you think the game is RaCIst! Then don't play it. I am only telling you what he himself said about his game, that it wasn't.

But on a side note, do you think Jews, who call themselves God's Chosen People, refer to other races and groups as Goyim, black people as "Schwarze", and operate an ethnostate in Israel with nice big walls and camps for people who get out-of-line, are racist?

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As far as the Mork Borg OGL anti-racism clause goes, that seems to be a pre-emptive defensive measure to keep Varg Vikernes away.

Shit I dont know how I didn't put two and two together than Varg Vikinges was the guy from Mayhem who murdered someone which is the same guy who wrote MyFarog. Though I hear from some people who have played MyFarog that it's not what it was made out to be. Last I heard he moved on from that life, but it's not like i was following his life story very closely. Unfortunately he's been yeeted from all the major social media and streaming platforms so it is difficult to tell what has actually become of him if he is truly reformed.

What is the consensus here?

He's a literal Nazi. It's part of why even though I spend a considerable amount of time fighting him and his fans, the SJWs always try to include him in a list of people who are the furthest thing from nazis but that they want to smear.

Varg made some claim like 20 years ago that he supported Naziism.

He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook. I haven't seen anything remotely "Nazi" from him, and he has said that MYFAROG is not racist.

Back in the day he wanted to be this heavy metal edge lord --that is what it was like in Europe in he late 80s and early 90s. The metal heads all tried to shock the public through devil worship, swastikas, etc. it was all an act.

but Varg continues to be this boogeyman

Varg continues to espouse racist ideology loudly and openly you absolute dimbulb. And he didn't "make a claim". He made a series of racist statements, elaborated on them, has written two books of racist propaganda, and continues to tweet stuff like this:







God damn you are dumb.

it's nice you found time to dig through Varg''s Twitter history to find evidence of racism. I am not even on Twitter, and I actually have a life, so ...

I don't need to defend Varg --if you think the game is RaCIst! Then don't play it. I am only telling you what he himself said about his game, that it wasn't.

But on a side note, do you think Jews, who call themselves God's Chosen People, refer to other races and groups as Goyim, black people as "Schwarze", and operate an ethnostate in Israel with nice big walls and camps for people who get out-of-line, are racist?

Took like 3 minutes scanning the most recent posts on his timeline. That's all his idiocy - or yours - is worth.

I dunno about the "Jews" you speak of, but none of the many Jews I've known in my life were doing any of these things. Nice dodge, though. And, no, you weren't "only telling me what he said about his game". You said, and this is a direct quote, "He has since completely backed off that and changed his outlook." Which he obviously hasn't. Take the L. You're only embarrassing yourself at this point.