Quote from: Karl on September 12, 2021, 02:46:32 PM
Are we not capable of a little rational thought?

Quote from: erc1971 on September 12, 2021, 03:18:54 PM
I did find an error - Kobold Press is both green and red.

Eric

Quote from: Karl on September 12, 2021, 02:46:32 PM
So because I said there is a difference between killing 10 people and 2 million like Hitler or 10,000 like Isis then i'm a terrorist apologist? Dude you are acting just like the leftists.. Your fucking feelings are not facts.

But we are not talking abut someone who joined Antifa you loon! The guy wore a T-shirt with the Antifa logo. He wore a T-shirt and almost 2 years ago is the reason someone wants to put his entire company on the red or yellow list. but because I say "Wait a minute this seems messed up" I'm a Terrorist apologist?

Are we not capable of a little rational thought?

Quote from: soundchaser on September 12, 2021, 04:05:30 PM
Wait, what revisionist has dialed Hitler's genocide work down to 2 million dead?

Quote from: VhaidraSaga on September 12, 2021, 04:31:58 PM

Quote from: erc1971 on September 12, 2021, 03:18:54 PM
I did find an error - Kobold Press is both green and red.

Eric

That was just on the first page of this thread. He changed it to just red on the Drive document.

• Amarillo Design Bureau (Prime Directive RPG)
• Arion Games (Advanced Fighting Fantasy 2e and Maelstrom)
• Autarch/ACKS
• Ben Laurence (Through Ultan's Door)
• BRW Games/Joseph Bloch (Adventures Dark and Deep) Strongly recommended on original thread, has taken an official stance to be apolitical Official Stance
• Columbia Games (Harnworld, Harnmaster, Block War Games) Aims for historical realism based on the medieval period. 
• Tenkar's Tavern/Eric Tenkar (Blog and Community) A "neutral ground" for an rpg community. Had some drama a few years ago about getting something pulled from one book shelf for it's description having ACAB on it, which ruffled some feathers on the anti censorship side however he has contributed so much good to the hobby. He has produced a few supplements on DTRPG
• Far Future Enterprises (Traveller 5th Edition)
• For Gold and Glory Nothing
• Free League Publishing (Tales from the Loop, Symbaroum, Coriolis) Standard "Gaming is for everyone" spiel, but otherwise has not done anything
• Frog God Games (Swords and Wizardry) Had an all female printing of Swords and Wizardry. This book is apparently referred to as the Vagina Book in house, and they seem to have learned their lesson. New information says that they were not pandering but they greenlit a sales pitch from the team of authors and artists that worked on that book. The company and creator both seem pretty solid.
• Goblinoid Games (Labyrinth Lord)
• Greg Gillispe (Barrowmaze)
• Ice Crown Enterprise (Rollmaster, HARP)
• Immersive Ink (Delving Deeper) 
• Kort'thalis Publishing/Venger Satanis (Alpha Blue, Cha'alt) Anti SJW, Strong stance on free speech
• Lamentations of the Flame Princess Edgelords, cannot be contained. They were on the receiving end of the cancel mob and twiterati for a while.
• Necrotic Gnome (Old School Essentials)    Officially Apolitical
• Basic Fantasy Has asked to remain neutral and not get involved in politics or drama
• OSRIC
• Palladium (Rifts) Does what they have always done, make gonzo worlds
• Mongoose Games (Paranoia) Has a don't be a dick section in Paranoia rpg
• North Wind Adventures (Astonishing Swordsman and Sorcerers of Hyperborea) 
• Petersen Games (Cthulhu Mythos among others) They tried to cancel him for thinking that men shouldn't compete in women's sports. Seems like a genuinely nice dude 
• Pinnacle Entertainment (Savage Worlds/Deadlands) Removed the CSA from Deadlands and removed a lot of the old art that might offend anyone particularly anything with partial nudity or more risque outfits. Allegedly made sure there weren't "too many white guys' ' in their core rulebook. Otherwise generally treat all of their customers with respect and strongly encourage 3rd party products and even allow them to keep all of their work as intellectual property.
• Post Mortem Studios (Tales of Gor, Punk RPG, Grimdark) Visit the storefront, can't imagine them giving a shit what people think
• Precis Intermedia (Genre Diversion System)
• Riot Minds (Trudvang, Lex Occultum)
• RPGPundit (Lion and Dragon, Arrows of Indra, Dark Albion): Authentic Historical games, doesn't mix his political views in his products. Outspoken Anti-SJW, and advocate for free speech and expression.
• Sasquatch Studio (Primeval Thule)
• Seffner Games Owned by veterans and has stated that they wish to be apolitical. It's a new company with only a few supplements that are basic D&D compatible so far, so go check them out.
• Schwalb Entertainment (Shadow of the Demon Lord)
• Sine Nomine (Scarlet Heroes, Stars Without Number)
• Studio Agate (Shadows of Esteren) Had some trouble with timelines on fulfilling crowdfunding, however maintains good relations with fans.
• Swordfish Islands (The Dark of Hot Springs Island)
• The Design Mechanism (Mythras, Mythic Earth, Classic Fantasy) Created a humorous video that featured some known politicians and social figures as part of an indigogo campaign. The video was not well received and was taken down; they have remained firmly apolitical since.
• Troll Lord Games (Castles and Crusades/Amazing Adventures/Siege Engine) Supports vets with big discounts, regularly interacts with fans.
• TSR Hobbies Takes a stand to be pro free speech and anti censorship. This is the new incarnation of TSR headed by Justin La Nasa and Ernie Gygax.
• Whitebox (FMAG)
• WizardThiefFighter (Ultra Violet Grasslands)

• Atlas Games (Ars Magica) President of Atlas-Games has total TDS and is another blue checkmark. Unsure of how badly it shows in their games. For now it's yellow bordering on red.
• Catalyst Game Labs (Shadowrun) Giving them the benefit of the doubt for now unless someone shows otherwise but this was posted last year  Statement on Social Justice
• Chaosium (Runequest, Call of Cthulhu, Pendragon) "Chaosium has Lynne Hardy who labelled Masks of Nyarlathotep as racist and therefore Larry DiTillo as racist also. She did this while acting as Chaosium's political commissar on the 7e version of Masks the results of which were BLM supporting additions and gender and race swapping NPCs to conform to woke quotas... In RuneQuest Glorantha they are progressively removing white people. At first the Pelorians were to remain pale but given recent artwork I doubt that. I think the only one that could still be white are Ygg Islanders who are a sort of Scandinavian people. But since the Opening of the seas most of them have left the island as Wolf Pirates and have now thoroughly mixed with other cultures. Cults (and game mechanics) have been rewritten to please the leftest females around Jeff Richards as well...growing Sandy Petersen under the bus on social media despite official response on this forum that Chaosium has people with wide ranging viewpoints that are supported by the company. What should tip them over is Pendragon 6e given that David Larkins is heading this up and there have been calls for all NPCS to be a 50%/50% gender split and it's a given that female knights will be mandated."-Gagarth
• Cubicle 7 (Age of Sigmar RPG, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition, Wrath and Glory, Adventures in Middle Earth) - Not as bad as the others on this list, they're definitely woke. Their art design generally shows it, having extremely odd choices for portraits in warhammer fantasy line and ignoring in world cultural practices like female dwarven artisans aren't generally a thing. Ticks diversity checkboxes, pronouns in the bio. I haven't seen them harassing customers yet so that's a win.
• Edge Studios (Star Wars, Genesis RPG) Acquired all of FFG rpg line, they toe the standard line and employ quite a few hardcore post modernists
• Enworld (Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition) Tagline is "DIVERSITY. DEPTH. CHOICE" and amongst new classes it promises "A new approach to heritage; characters are a diverse lot" & "'Race' separated into heritage and culture." Unleashed Pitch fork mob on Ernie Gygax after interview with nu-TSR by poster.
• Fantasy Flight Games (Board Games, Star Wars RPG, Star Wars Legion, Legend of the 5 Rings 5th Edition) They gender and race swap established characters, ban words that they considered offensive like shouting "Banzai" before a TCG event, and generally allow people to take over the forums and run away with their trade dress etc. They don't constantly harass potential customers and tell them how much they hate them at least. They no longer produce RPGs or Star Wars Legion.
• Gallant Knight Games (Sharp Swords & Sinister Spells, the Tiny RPGs) Partnered with Diogo Nogueira. Has a strong relationship with Diogo as far as I know but I can't find examples of them actually doing anything wrong other than that.
• Goodman Games (Dungeon Crawl Classics) - Tried to protect itself by distancing itself from Judges Guild and donating to ADL. Other than that, I can't really find anything else on them. Praised BLM last year and donates to woke charities Charity Drive
• GURPs/Steve Jackson Games Signed October Surprise/Gamers for Hillary in 2020, which makes the stance official. However their products remain largely apolitical.
• Hero Games Hires sensitivity readers, otherwise hard to tell.
• Heroforge Miniatures They pander hard, are not overt about it but i'm sure they will do something stupid soon.
• Reaper Miniatures Had some drama about an employee getting into a fight with some antifa sympathizer. Read this and make up your own mind  Accusation
• Talsorian Games (Cyberpunk 2020, Cyberpunk Red) They lean really heavily into IDIC (Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations) it's on their page rules. Lots of pronouns in bios, They haven't gone full crazy just yet. Mike Pondsmith, the owner, has been criticized by the cancel mob for not denouncing all cops and even being supportive of good cops.
• Uslisses Spiele (Torg, Fading Suns, Dark Eye, Adventuria, Myth) Robert Adducci is their community manager, and is pretty much everything you'd imagine from your standard though he's a bit less actually vocal about it but he also ran Adventurers League for wizards of the coast. He gatekeeps pretty damn hard banning anyone who doesn't toe the line of wokeness. GIven that he is Ulisses Spiele community manager I don't doubt for a second he brings that attitude over. They also do a lot of work with people from other known companies, so I imagine they're gonna fall somewhere in the middle. But don't be surprised if they go full crazy in the near future. Employees - Ulisses Spiele (ulisses-us.com)

• Arc Dream Publishing (Delta Green) Delta Green Handlers guide has a whole section on Trump. They are actually more hostile to Trump than actual historical nazis.
• Arcanist Press Only make diversity products, they based their company on their politics
• Brittania Games (Chivalry & Sorcery, Land of the Rising Sun for 5e D&D) "... In this edition of the classic medieval fantasy game we have drawn on modern [i.e. Intersectional Marxist] research to present the Middle Ages as they really were; diverse and rich in cultural influences and visitors from outside Europe. If this does not reflect your vision of the Middle Ages, this is not the game for you." and "... In this edition of the classic medieval fantasy game we encourage you to break away from the bland white, male Middle Ages of yesteryear and make your game as rich and varied as the Middle Ages really were. If this does not reflect your vision of the Middle Ages, this is not the game for you" -Marxists automatically go here.
• BurningWheelHQ/Luke Crane (Burning Wheel, Torchbearer, Mouseguard) It was painful to put this one here because I remember I sort of enjoyed reading burning wheel back when Burning Wheel Gold first came out, it had some interesting ideas however I cannot ignore the fact that Luke Crane and his company have extremely close ties with Anita Sarkeesian (Feminist Frequency). You can find their selfies together online, as well as a report of her position being official on their old forums and any support of gamergate was forbidden. If you're a masochist here is a link however the old forums are gone and there is no link to the original post however you can easily find the interview with anita on youtube with Luke Crane.
• Evil Beagle Games/Sean Patrick Fannon Evil Beagle "Games is dedicated to the principles of Inclusivity, Diversity, Representation, and Kindness in the gaming community." and went rambling on about critical race theory being a driving factor. Asked to be on this list as red. Also SPF has accusations of sexual harassment, see here
• Evil Hat Productions/Fred Hicks (FATE RPG, Swords in the Dark)- Another poster child for woke gaming. Embedded in everything from their forums, to their products and staff. Also produces Thirsty Sword Lesbians with Gay Spaceship Games. Has gotten products pulled from one bookshelf, and tried to deplatform others. Has official stances on politics and must be intersectional feminist to play his games. Openly tells you if you don't like their politics don't buy their games. Too easy 
• Gencon A convention, but honorary assholes nonetheless. They go a bit ban happy, see Jeremy Hambley and the whole thing with "nu-tsr" despite being short lived. Jeremy Hambly AKA The Quartering on youtube was assaulted by someone at Gencon, and banned for being the victim of a crime at the wrong place at the wrong time. It was founded by Peter Atkinson, former president of Wizards of the Coast.
• Green Ronin (Blue Rose, Song of Ice and Fire RPG, Dragon Age RPG) - Chris Pramas is a self described member of ANTIFA Link (see his bio on twitter), has a vitriolic hatred for white people, and his products reflect this. Publishes "Blue Rose", the gay RPG. Proto SJWs, they were making political statements in their games before anyone else was.
• Grim and Perilous Games (Zweihander, Flames of Freedom) Freakin Dumpster Fire, Official discord and forums heavily enforce Daniel fox's politics down to having a bot that blocks any message using banned words. A bunch of names are on that list. Flames of Freedom openly preaches against colonialism and white people, and has a heavy dose of historical revisionism, which is a fair critique of a supposed historical setting. Has allegedly stated if you are anti sjw or anti woke that you do not buy or play his games and will pay you for your copy. Also allegedly a self described "anarcho communist" both of these need citations but based on my own interactions and findings seem like reasonable assumptions
• Judges Guild (Bob Bledsaw II) Anti Semitism, see Judges Guild Controversy
• Kobold Press Chapter 2 of "Guide to Gamemastering" has a whole section telling the reader to "check your privilege" and the whole thing kind of reads like a gender studies course or something. Actively disparages cis white males. Also known to charge writers for the chance to write for them, and then prides themselves on paying them a penny per word.
• Magpie Games (Avatar Legends RPG) Way into BLM and "Diversity and Inclusion, also hired Daniel Kwan from Asians Represent Youtube channel. They tried to get Oriental Adventures banned from one bookshelf and other storefronts. Market their game as non western storytelling.
• Modiphius (Infinity, Vampire the Masquerade 5th Edition, Fallout RPG, Conan etc) Publishes some woke products, and feminizes Conan the Barbarian. Allegedly hires based on race. THese are also the current license holders for vampire the masquerade, which has been a trip to keep up with. See this Changes to Conan the Wanderer
• Monkey House Games/Jeff Dee: Enormous asshole and activist. If you are republican or conservative or Christian this hates you.
• Monte Cook Games (Numenera) Partners with Shanna Germain and wrote consent in gaming. Anything with Germain's fingers on it is automatically red
• MyFarog/Varg Vikerness Owns the blog Thulean Perspective, did time for murder, self described Neo Nazi, regularly posts anti semetic remarks. There is a good case to be made for these ideas to be actually in his game as well.
• Ockult Ortmastare Games/Stockholm Cartell (Mork Borg) - Uses OGL to shoot down authors they disagree with. Supports BLM and bailing out rioters. View their License for yourself but we need some concrete examples of them actually using this Mork Borg 3rd Party License
• Old Skull Publishing/Diogo Nogueira (Sharp Swords and Sinister Spells) Was previously placed here for an unsubstantiated rumor, however has expressed a strong desire to remain in this category due to a strong feeling to those who don't specifically share his views. Keeps close relationships with self described communists as well. It's public on his twitter feed.
• Onyx Path Publishing (Chronicles of Darkness) Heavily enforces political requirements in their communities, games are full of post modernist and leftist themes and preaching to no end.
• Paizo (Pathfinder)- Has whole pages in their books telling you how you must play their game and be inclusive. Harasses customers, aggressively moderates forums against anyone to the right of stalin, Retconned Golarion lore to be more inclusive, starfinder even had an adventure where you needed to get a professor at a university to apologize for being insensitive despite being factually correct. No lie, first adventure path. Another AP for Pathfinder showed all men as incompetent, read like a tumblr blog and all the women were super powerful and if you didnt bring the black, lesbian, disabled ranger with you then you automatically lost. Iron Gods or something like that.
• Pelgrane Press (13th Age) "The thing about SWGs (Straight White Guys) is that they make great punching bags. " Still need a citation for this but for now it's going red. Also published #Feminism
• Renegade Game Studios (Vampire the Masquerade 5e) I believe these guys are the current name of who owns VtM. Not sure where to start with these guys, nonstop preaching, large chunks of their books will be ranting about fascists, right wing, and pretty much everyone they disagree with.
• Roll20 (Virtual Tabletop) Strongly supports BLM and woke titles, participates in fund raisers for those causes. Also refused to sponsor a live play by taking20, dawnforged cast and a few others because they "didn't need any more straight white guys." Not sponsering the video isn't the problem here, it's their reason is racist as fuck
• Sigil Stone Publishing (Five Torches Deep) Just read the last page in FTD Origins. Titled: "BIOESSENTIALISM, RACISM, AND COLONIALISM
  Stygian Fox (The Things We Leave Behind, Occams Razor, New Tales of the Miskatonic Valley) A transgender owner and fully inclusive team including a sexual and bisexuals. Hires favouring trans, people of colour, IDIC, and other minorities. Each book contains a trigger warning system and most covers has 'for mature gamers'. Produces Lovecraftian horror roleplaying books and often makes statements via twitter of inclusivity and stating 'if you're not like us, don't buy our books'. Definitely Red. Almost infra red. 'Woke' AF.
• Tuesday Knight Games (Mothership RPG) Published the Dissident Whispers Zine the proceeds of which went directly to bailing out BLM rioters. Has threatened violence against people they disagree with. 
• Wizards of the Coast (Dungeons and Dragons) - Harasses customers, diversity checkboxes, hires based on race, pedo judges, bans anyone they disagree with on social issues from all sanctioned events. True dumpster fire.

Quote from: erc1971 on September 12, 2021, 05:07:40 PM

Quote from: VhaidraSaga on September 12, 2021, 04:31:58 PM

Quote from: erc1971 on September 12, 2021, 03:18:54 PM
I did find an error - Kobold Press is both green and red.

Eric

That was just on the first page of this thread. He changed it to just red on the Drive document.

Thanks much, I was unaware of the Drive Document.

And in that case I found an error on the Drive Document .  TSR is no longer, the new company name is Wonderfilled. (Which is a shame that they caved to the woke mob.)

Eric

Quote from: TheShadowSpawn on September 12, 2021, 11:50:45 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on September 12, 2021, 07:09:04 AM
  Thought crimes I agree we need to be wary of....but... I also think if someone told me they are an outright nazi, and to me antifa is CLEARLY as bad, and their stated intentions are around toppling the country... Those are a bit different than thought crimes.  Being left is one thing, outright antifa support can only be abject ignorance latched onto a name (well if it is ANTI fascist isnt it good?) or they are pretty much stated enemies of the country. 

   I think a whole lot of antifa "support" though is just following the edge of mainstream leads, people on CNN run their mouth about antifa being positive, so I can forgive an artist who may not be very aware for latching onto something that whizzed by their faces.   I am in the camp that until you start running your mouth about not needing my money, or removing me from your hobby, I can still do business.   I also think it can be a very small step from supporting antifa to doing just that though.

Good points all, oggsmash. I personally choose to not do business with him anymore. Its tough though, because like I said, I love his game system. Its given me more successful games from start to finish than any other game in the last decade.

Though Weird Wizard looks to be inching more towards Fate influencing it than the OSR.. so it would likely have been a pass for me anyway.

Quote from: Plotinus on September 12, 2021, 07:48:15 AM

Quote from: shroomster on September 12, 2021, 12:10:30 AM
Wanted to see about possibly getting Tuesday Knight Games added for Mothership RPG as either yellow or red
No anti-customer/individual behaviour that I am aware of, so maybe not red, just very specific overarching themes across many of its paid materials

Examples:
Dead Planet supplement:
descriptions and themes: "The soldiers of the Defiance's last, and poorly paying, job was crushing a loggers strike on a timber planet, silencing their mewling pleas for basic quality of life protections." (workers rights is a common issue in the game, evil corporations being to blame, never other forms of oppression like big government or totalitarianism)
item descriptions: "ZIPPO: FUCK CAPITALISM" (no "f communism" or f any other left-wing political affiliation), "PIN: Bleed the Pigs"
various other items suggesting current world views (anti-religion, pro-fetishism etc)

Pound of Flesh supplement:
Workers union conflict as a central plot of the module (I haven't read PoF that much tbh, but it is sold in "leftism" section of at least one retailer)

Places of authority/leadership disproportionately occupied by non-males: these are nit-picky, but after purchasing all major books/supplements, its quite noticeable and cringy
Haunting of Ypsilon 14: Sonya, mining station lead (1 out of 1)
Dead Planet: Captain Yancheg of the Alexis, colony leader Malta (2 out of 2, unclear who lead the marines of the Defiance, but they were murderers anyways)
Pound of Flesh: Yandu, crime boss and defacto "leader" of Prospero's Dream (referred to by "they," appears feminine in art)
Gradient Descent: Rachel Kilroy, leader of the Trouble-shooters(badass spec ops soldiers, 1/1 as far as humans "in power")
 
I must say that I don't wish anything negative on anyone who is involved in or likes Mothership and I think games like this should definitely exist, but be more upfront about their world views. It is important to point out that in all my time spent playing it with its discord server peeps, I have always had a polite and decent experience (aside from the pronoun stuff and occasional pro-left rants but that's down to individual preference). This is more of a heads up for customers who might be expecting a variety or non-specificity of world views from the game, but later coming to find out its very specific leanings and in-world politics. Obviously in and of itself this is not a criticism of the material, but as a paying customer I would have liked a more upfront disclosure of its politics since it was marketed as an anti-cannon sci-fi horror rpg.

I also have an interest in Mothership, and I would not consider these in-game setting details sufficient to put TKG in yellow, let alone red. The stuff you mentioned from Dead Planet makes me roll my eyes a little, but I have A Pound of Flesh, and I would not say it belabors the teamsters as morally superior victims of evil capitalist overlords or anything like that. The setting is political in some sense, but in a way that feels natural and organic, not in the sense of a preachy, self-righteous, simplistic allegory for specific 21st century issues. And isn't that exactly what we want?

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 12, 2021, 09:02:16 PM

Quote from: Plotinus on September 12, 2021, 07:48:15 AM

Quote from: shroomster on September 12, 2021, 12:10:30 AM
Wanted to see about possibly getting Tuesday Knight Games added for Mothership RPG as either yellow or red
No anti-customer/individual behaviour that I am aware of, so maybe not red, just very specific overarching themes across many of its paid materials

Examples:
Dead Planet supplement:
descriptions and themes: "The soldiers of the Defiance's last, and poorly paying, job was crushing a loggers strike on a timber planet, silencing their mewling pleas for basic quality of life protections." (workers rights is a common issue in the game, evil corporations being to blame, never other forms of oppression like big government or totalitarianism)
item descriptions: "ZIPPO: FUCK CAPITALISM" (no "f communism" or f any other left-wing political affiliation), "PIN: Bleed the Pigs"
various other items suggesting current world views (anti-religion, pro-fetishism etc)

Pound of Flesh supplement:
Workers union conflict as a central plot of the module (I haven't read PoF that much tbh, but it is sold in "leftism" section of at least one retailer)

Places of authority/leadership disproportionately occupied by non-males: these are nit-picky, but after purchasing all major books/supplements, its quite noticeable and cringy
Haunting of Ypsilon 14: Sonya, mining station lead (1 out of 1)
Dead Planet: Captain Yancheg of the Alexis, colony leader Malta (2 out of 2, unclear who lead the marines of the Defiance, but they were murderers anyways)
Pound of Flesh: Yandu, crime boss and defacto "leader" of Prospero's Dream (referred to by "they," appears feminine in art)
Gradient Descent: Rachel Kilroy, leader of the Trouble-shooters(badass spec ops soldiers, 1/1 as far as humans "in power")
 
I must say that I don't wish anything negative on anyone who is involved in or likes Mothership and I think games like this should definitely exist, but be more upfront about their world views. It is important to point out that in all my time spent playing it with its discord server peeps, I have always had a polite and decent experience (aside from the pronoun stuff and occasional pro-left rants but that's down to individual preference). This is more of a heads up for customers who might be expecting a variety or non-specificity of world views from the game, but later coming to find out its very specific leanings and in-world politics. Obviously in and of itself this is not a criticism of the material, but as a paying customer I would have liked a more upfront disclosure of its politics since it was marketed as an anti-cannon sci-fi horror rpg.

I also have an interest in Mothership, and I would not consider these in-game setting details sufficient to put TKG in yellow, let alone red. The stuff you mentioned from Dead Planet makes me roll my eyes a little, but I have A Pound of Flesh, and I would not say it belabors the teamsters as morally superior victims of evil capitalist overlords or anything like that. The setting is political in some sense, but in a way that feels natural and organic, not in the sense of a preachy, self-righteous, simplistic allegory for specific 21st century issues. And isn't that exactly what we want?

The creators and writers for Mothership are rampant virulent SJWs. One of the writers (Maeve Geist) has repeatedly threatened in tweets to physically attack me with the explicit intent to kill.

Quote from: Ocule on September 12, 2021, 09:03:13 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 12, 2021, 09:02:16 PM

Quote from: Plotinus on September 12, 2021, 07:48:15 AM

Quote from: shroomster on September 12, 2021, 12:10:30 AM
Wanted to see about possibly getting Tuesday Knight Games added for Mothership RPG as either yellow or red
No anti-customer/individual behaviour that I am aware of, so maybe not red, just very specific overarching themes across many of its paid materials

Examples:
Dead Planet supplement:
descriptions and themes: "The soldiers of the Defiance's last, and poorly paying, job was crushing a loggers strike on a timber planet, silencing their mewling pleas for basic quality of life protections." (workers rights is a common issue in the game, evil corporations being to blame, never other forms of oppression like big government or totalitarianism)
item descriptions: "ZIPPO: FUCK CAPITALISM" (no "f communism" or f any other left-wing political affiliation), "PIN: Bleed the Pigs"
various other items suggesting current world views (anti-religion, pro-fetishism etc)

Pound of Flesh supplement:
Workers union conflict as a central plot of the module (I haven't read PoF that much tbh, but it is sold in "leftism" section of at least one retailer)

Places of authority/leadership disproportionately occupied by non-males: these are nit-picky, but after purchasing all major books/supplements, its quite noticeable and cringy
Haunting of Ypsilon 14: Sonya, mining station lead (1 out of 1)
Dead Planet: Captain Yancheg of the Alexis, colony leader Malta (2 out of 2, unclear who lead the marines of the Defiance, but they were murderers anyways)
Pound of Flesh: Yandu, crime boss and defacto "leader" of Prospero's Dream (referred to by "they," appears feminine in art)
Gradient Descent: Rachel Kilroy, leader of the Trouble-shooters(badass spec ops soldiers, 1/1 as far as humans "in power")
 
I must say that I don't wish anything negative on anyone who is involved in or likes Mothership and I think games like this should definitely exist, but be more upfront about their world views. It is important to point out that in all my time spent playing it with its discord server peeps, I have always had a polite and decent experience (aside from the pronoun stuff and occasional pro-left rants but that's down to individual preference). This is more of a heads up for customers who might be expecting a variety or non-specificity of world views from the game, but later coming to find out its very specific leanings and in-world politics. Obviously in and of itself this is not a criticism of the material, but as a paying customer I would have liked a more upfront disclosure of its politics since it was marketed as an anti-cannon sci-fi horror rpg.

I also have an interest in Mothership, and I would not consider these in-game setting details sufficient to put TKG in yellow, let alone red. The stuff you mentioned from Dead Planet makes me roll my eyes a little, but I have A Pound of Flesh, and I would not say it belabors the teamsters as morally superior victims of evil capitalist overlords or anything like that. The setting is political in some sense, but in a way that feels natural and organic, not in the sense of a preachy, self-righteous, simplistic allegory for specific 21st century issues. And isn't that exactly what we want?

The creators and writers for Mothership are rampant virulent SJWs. One of the writers (Maeve Geist) has repeatedly threatened in tweets to physically attack me with the explicit intent to kill.

Yeah lets move them to red then, jfc. You got receipts for this?