Lion and Dragon

RandyB · July 03, 2020, 10:13:58 PM

Quote from: Tom Kalbfus;1137826It was all a long time ago, there weren't as many hypersensitive individuals getting offended by everything that corporations listened to.

That I'll agree with. Much less claiming offense to try to ruin other people's fun. The root of it was around, but it wasn't in full cry.

Da pig o’ War · July 03, 2020, 10:48:27 PM

Quote from: Eldritch_Knight;1137828Yes. I purchased Lion & Dragon. I ordered Barrowmaze at the beginning of last month, which is due to arrive in a few days, so probably won't get L&D until early August.

Very cool. I did the preview and it looks like a good style.

I am debating soft or hardcover

RandyB · July 03, 2020, 11:01:33 PM

Quote from: Warpiglet;1137836Very cool. I did the preview and it looks like a good style.

I am debating soft or hardcover

That's no debate for me. Hardcover whenever available.

Tom Kalbfus · July 03, 2020, 11:58:42 PM

Could you use Lion and Dragon as a sourcebook for a 3.5 game suitable modified?

Slambo · July 04, 2020, 12:05:36 AM

I got my copy recently, it really is a gold mine. Lots of it can be used for most any fantasy system, the section on medival crimes is fantastic

Tom Kalbfus · July 04, 2020, 12:50:34 AM

Okay, thanks I'll take a look at it next week.

World_Warrior · July 04, 2020, 01:33:57 AM

Quote from: Warpiglet;1137836Very cool. I did the preview and it looks like a good style.

I am debating soft or hardcover

I did hardcover. The price isn't that much more, and hardcovers last longer and look so much better on the shelf. In fact, the price in general for Pundit's products are quite low compared to others. I'd recommend hardcover.

World_Warrior · July 04, 2020, 01:47:15 AM

Quote from: Tom Kalbfus;1137851Could you use Lion and Dragon as a sourcebook for a 3.5 game suitable modified?

I imagine it could work quite well. The magic system is different and uses spells based on actual medieval practices, so could be a good fix to the wizard/fighter power scale. If you end up doing so, let us know how it worked out. Not sure if Lion & Dragon has a full setting (besides Dark Albion) or just lots of explanation on how to run authentic medieval campaigns. Either way it should work well.

Crusader X · July 04, 2020, 06:31:01 AM

Is the quality of the Lion & Dragon hardcover the same on Lulu as it is on DriveThruRPG? Because it seems Lulu would have the lowest price for the HC when they run their various free shipping and discount coupons.

moonsweeper · July 04, 2020, 08:30:39 PM

Quote from: Crusader X;1137875Is the quality of the Lion & Dragon hardcover the same on Lulu as it is on DriveThruRPG? Because it seems Lulu would have the lowest price for the HC when they run their various free shipping and discount coupons.

I got my copies of Dark Albion and Lion & Dragon through Lulu (Both HC) and they were excellent.

RPGPundit · July 05, 2020, 04:00:11 AM

Quote from: Warpiglet;1137772I was thinking about grabbing a copy but had a few questions.

First, I was thinking about using some of the social and religious ideas in a fantasy world. In short, I don't want modern day assumptions tacked into a strange medieval world. How well does the social and other power structures port over to "not earth."

Secondly, I am not a big fan of dungeon punk or superhero aesthetic. More inspired by actual historical armor and weapons. Does the book art have good examples of this? Chain mail, bucket helmets, etc.?

1. The social order and power structures can easily port over to a not-earth setting, as long as you have a powerful monotheistic church, and a (slowly destabilizing) feudal system of aristocracy.

2. All the art in all the L&D/Dark Albion products are totally in keeping with the medieval-authentic aesthetic. No dungeon punk, no superheroes.

RPGPundit · July 05, 2020, 04:01:41 AM

Quote from: Tom Kalbfus;1137786What year is Lion & Dragon set in? I was watching the show Vikings and that is set in the 800s, so I'm guessing it is after that, as many of the characters in the show are pagan Vikings. The 100 years war I am guessing. I guess someone should write up stats for Joan of Arc. Does Ghengis Khan figure into this setting? That might be an interesting subject for an adventure.

The default year for Lion & Dragon is the 1450s, at the start of the War of the Roses. The Dark Albion timeline in the actual book covers from 1454-1485.

RPGPundit · July 05, 2020, 04:02:53 AM

Quote from: Eldritch_Knight;1137811Your welcome. Glad it helped.
On a related note, I also purchased a copy, so thanks for the topic. It reminded me I needed to purchase it as well.

Thank you!

RPGPundit · July 05, 2020, 04:04:19 AM

Quote from: Tom Kalbfus;1137851Could you use Lion and Dragon as a sourcebook for a 3.5 game suitable modified?

Yes, you could, though if what you're looking is more to run 3.5 and have a medieval authentic setting, what you want is Dark Albion.

RPGPundit · July 05, 2020, 04:04:44 AM

Quote from: Slambo;1137855I got my copy recently, it really is a gold mine. Lots of it can be used for most any fantasy system, the section on medival crimes is fantastic

Thanks!