My favorite part of noted retard Daniel Kwan is how they focus on the simple description of the Barbarian class and how it wounds them.  Its a brief description of a character class to give the player an idea of what role they want to play.  They literally spend one hour on a single page of descriptions, not talking about game mechanics because well if you gave them a D20 they'd ask if that is a fully automatic assault 50 cal round.  They are doing the equivalent of the exercise I'm sure they were given sometime at college "Why is this pencil racist", instead its why is this book racist.

The best way to describe these two morons as they critique Oriental Adventures is the scene of Zoolander where they try to open up an iMac and they are shown as cave men.  It's worth watching just to see how far gone children are when fed a toxic dose of leftardism in their education.



Those looking for a whitepill out of listening to these low grade "morans", AI is removing large number of white collar jobs, it turns out AI does white collar work very well.  Blue collar jobs however, AI is having issues replacing.  So as time progresses, those idiots getting advanced degrees in jobs that AI replaced, will be hobbled with debt and lack influence, which will encourage more children not to attend college and instead to take up skilled trades.  The more that children can be incentivized to bypass college, that is four years of avoiding hard leftwing ideology and a better chance of them starting out debt free and be able to start a family with a good paying career.  AI might just help to switch the culture away from nimrodery. 

I couldn't get 10 minutes into this shit.

I have over a decade of living in Asia.  These two aren't "Asian" they are urban left Americans of Asian decent.  There is a big difference.

Yes, these two clowns are the embodiment of what my Chinese wife calls "bananas"; yellow on the outside, but white on the inside.  No actual Asian with half a brain is offended or cares about this shit.  Nor do they care about the supposedly hegemonic word "Oriental."  But here you go, children of white, Western privilege railing against the same.

Quote from: Persimmon on October 26, 2023, 08:39:14 AM
Yes, these two clowns are the embodiment of what my Chinese wife calls "bananas"; yellow on the outside, but white on the inside.  ....

That's a good one, I'll steal it (i.e. appropriate it)   

I rescind their Asian credentials. I'm full Chinese and am a first generation immigrant. Therefore I have greater moral authority within the progressive stack and can issue such edicts.henceforth, these two will be considered "guilo" and cast out of Asiandom. I will graciously allow them to keep their rice license. I'm not that cruel.

I wish we had a video where experts on European history and folklore criticized D&D for being racist against Europeans. Call it "Two white dudes call out Occidental Adventures for racism!"

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on October 26, 2023, 02:22:22 PM
I wish we had a video where experts on European history and folklore criticized D&D for being racist against Europeans. Call it "Two white dudes call out Occidental Adventures for racism!"

Here's the thing: those two idiots are by no means "experts" on Asian history or folklore.  As someone who is an expert on those things, I can say this unequivocally. 

Quote from: Persimmon on October 26, 2023, 02:56:50 PM

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on October 26, 2023, 02:22:22 PM
I wish we had a video where experts on European history and folklore criticized D&D for being racist against Europeans. Call it "Two white dudes call out Occidental Adventures for racism!"

Here's the thing: those two idiots are by no means "experts" on Asian history or folklore.  As someone who is an expert on those things, I can say this unequivocally.

I know. But my idea sounds like it might actually be educational

Quote from: BadApple on October 26, 2023, 07:47:59 AM
These two aren't "Asian" they are urban left Americans of Asian decent.  There is a big difference.

I agree. As a Brit listening to them discuss Legend of the Five Rings, I realised that some of the stereotypes that they were concerned about were American ideas of Asian Americans.  Some of this is definitely parochial.

Quote from: Hzilong on October 26, 2023, 01:19:48 PM
I rescind their Asian credentials. I'm full Chinese and am a first generation immigrant. Therefore I have greater moral authority within the progressive stack and can issue such edicts.henceforth, these two will be considered "guilo" and cast out of Asiandom. I will graciously allow them to keep their rice license. I'm not that cruel.

Having two Asians bitching about Asians being depicted as Barbarians is the biggest line of crap.  Genghis Khan, largest empire in the world, its believed 20M men can be traced just to him.  If you want to know what orcs represent from an ancestral memory its Asian steppe barbarians that took whatever they wanted because they were badasses.  During WWII, Hun descendants were used by the soviets to torture SS and Waffen soldiers.  They ran in terror like little girls.  They drug them to their deaths behind their vehicles.  When I think of a Barbarian its the Huns.

Quote from: Persimmon on October 26, 2023, 02:56:50 PM

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on October 26, 2023, 02:22:22 PM
I wish we had a video where experts on European history and folklore criticized D&D for being racist against Europeans. Call it "Two white dudes call out Occidental Adventures for racism!"

Here's the thing: those two idiots are by no means "experts" on Asian history or folklore.  As someone who is an expert on those things, I can say this unequivocally.

I am by no means and expert at any level on Asian culture or social structure.  I have lived in Asia in 6 different countries and had a lot of exposure to Korean, Japanese, and Various Chinese cultures.  (Also Indochina and Malay cultures.)  Anyone with even a smidgen of my exposure will see right through these two.

Here's a neat thing about Oriental Adventures.  It has been a product that has been largely seen by the Asian gaming community I was exposed to as an invitation for Asians to join the larger community of gaming of western cultures.  I have seen no less that three copies in the hands of locals while in Asia and it was held as prized possession.  I did get asked by one guy to explain some of the contents (in the nature of confusion of how westerners see some aspects of Asia.)   Also, they seemed very warm to the idea of white guys enjoying playing out an interpretation of Asian heroes.

A real direct comparison would be an analysis of Fabula Ultima or Sword World.  And, for the record, Japanese gamers are fully aware that their interpretation of western culture in their gaming is by no means representative of actual western cultures

I think it's interesting to look at David Chart's comments on one of these topics. He was line developer for the last version of Ars Magica which is how I know of him.

On his background from https://www.davidchart.com/about-me/: "I was born in Stockport, in the northwest of England, in 1971. [...] I became a Japanese citizen in 2016, and intend to live the rest of my life in Japan."

He will take on work as a sensitivity reader but he notes:

"I am not Japanese-American, and I cannot comment on what they may or may not find offensive. It appears, for example, that a substantial minority of Japanese-Americans are offended by people not of Japanese descent playing dress-up in kimono, while the Japanese overwhelmingly think it is wonderful. Note that, if you are writing in English, it may be more important to avoid offending Japanese-Americans than to avoid offending the Japanese."

I feel - sitting in Europe - that I'm much more interested in what the Japanese think.

Quote from: Anselyn on October 26, 2023, 03:37:08 PM
I think it's interesting to look at David Chart's comments on one of these topics. He was line developer for the last version of Ars Magica which is how I know of him.

On his background from https://www.davidchart.com/about-me/: "I was born in Stockport, in the northwest of England, in 1971. [...] I became a Japanese citizen in 2016, and intend to live the rest of my life in Japan."

He will take on work as a sensitivity reader but he notes:

"I am not Japanese-American, and I cannot comment on what they may or may not find offensive. It appears, for example, that a substantial minority of Japanese-Americans are offended by people not of Japanese descent playing dress-up in kimono, while the Japanese overwhelmingly think it is wonderful. Note that, if you are writing in English, it may be more important to avoid offending Japanese-Americans than to avoid offending the Japanese."

I feel - sitting in Europe - that I'm much more interested in what the Japanese think.

This sums things up quite well.  Every real Asian I talk to regarding this kind of stuff thinks it's great that foreigners, especially those of non-Asian descent, find their culture & history fascinating.  None have ever bitched about "cultural appropriation." 

What we see in this video is simply a pastime of the perpetually offended.

Quote from: Anselyn on October 26, 2023, 03:37:08 PM
I think it's interesting to look at David Chart's comments on one of these topics. He was line developer for the last version of Ars Magica which is how I know of him.

On his background from https://www.davidchart.com/about-me/: "I was born in Stockport, in the northwest of England, in 1971. [...] I became a Japanese citizen in 2016, and intend to live the rest of my life in Japan."

He will take on work as a sensitivity reader but he notes:

"I am not Japanese-American, and I cannot comment on what they may or may not find offensive. It appears, for example, that a substantial minority of Japanese-Americans are offended by people not of Japanese descent playing dress-up in kimono, while the Japanese overwhelmingly think it is wonderful. Note that, if you are writing in English, it may be more important to avoid offending Japanese-Americans than to avoid offending the Japanese."

I feel - sitting in Europe - that I'm much more interested in what the Japanese think.

This has been my experience with most people around the world I've been exposed to.  As a matter of fact, my desire to learn and willingness to share my own culture has been a bridge to some really great friendships. 

I find the bulk of *.*-Americans that have been indoctrinated by leftism to be so out of touch with the culture of their forbears that they are insufferable.  Even more so, they totally disrespect central elements of those cultures while screeching at people like me about cultural appropriation.

I spent about 18 months in Taiwan where I developed some fairly close relationships with locals.  I was taught how to use chopsticks, brew tea, and cook some recipes.  (Other things too, but less relevant to this.)  Now when I do some of this in the USA, Asian-Americans of strong leftist ideology will freak out at me.  I had to explain to a manager once that me eating with chopsticks wasn't me being mocking of Asian culture but in part honoring my friends who patiently taught me. 

Also, I find it absolutely laughable that some Asian-Americans believe that they can speak for the entirety of a whole continent and two archipelagos that encompass hundreds of ethnic groups and cultures.   

Quote from: BadApple on October 26, 2023, 03:23:02 PM

Quote from: Persimmon on October 26, 2023, 02:56:50 PM

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on October 26, 2023, 02:22:22 PM
I wish we had a video where experts on European history and folklore criticized D&D for being racist against Europeans. Call it "Two white dudes call out Occidental Adventures for racism!"

Here's the thing: those two idiots are by no means "experts" on Asian history or folklore.  As someone who is an expert on those things, I can say this unequivocally.

I am by no means and expert at any level on Asian culture or social structure.  I have lived in Asia in 6 different countries and had a lot of exposure to Korean, Japanese, and Various Chinese cultures.  (Also Indochina and Malay cultures.)  Anyone with even a smidgen of my exposure will see right through these two.

Here's a neat thing about Oriental Adventures.  It has been a product that has been largely seen by the Asian gaming community I was exposed to as an invitation for Asians to join the larger community of gaming of western cultures.  I have seen no less that three copies in the hands of locals while in Asia and it was held as prized possession.  I did get asked by one guy to explain some of the contents (in the nature of confusion of how westerners see some aspects of Asia.)   Also, they seemed very warm to the idea of white guys enjoying playing out an interpretation of Asian heroes.

A real direct comparison would be an analysis of Fabula Ultima or Sword World.  And, for the record, Japanese gamers are fully aware that their interpretation of western culture in their gaming is by no means representative of actual western cultures

Japanese interpretation of European culture for Anime:

Hot girl in a uniform with massive jugs and drill hair comes to Japan, becomes friends with MC and is second best fighter.