Quote from: Dumarest;959975Okay, present the evidence. Writing "from Jackson himself" isn't evidence. Provide the links showing Steve Jackson is one of the forgotten creators of Star Frontiers.

Um. I did not say he wrote anything for SF. I noted that he Reed tried to get the SF site taken down despite the site having permission, and Jackson backed him on it.

Quote from: Omega;960173Um. I did not say he wrote anything for SF. I noted that he Reed tried to get the SF site taken down despite the site having permission, and Jackson backed him on it.

The chain of events was basically

1) In the early 90s the site got permission from TSR to host copies of the original Star Frontiers products
2) A decade later people noticed this including Jackson, Reed, etc. An effort was mounted to make Wizards aware and to shut it down. Looking at the site at archive.org it definitely wasn't clear that they had permission to host this stuff.
3) During the discussion between the site and Wizards it turned out that the original permission was made by people who not authorized to do so.
4) But because the individuals had positions of authority and acted as representatives of TSR, the site was off the hook as far being in trouble for hosting the files.
5) After further discussion a new agreement was forged between the site and Wizards that allowed them to continue to host the original products. Some of it features were that it had to be non-commercial and that they had to take anything down that Wizards put up for on-line distribution.

Quote from: estar;960183The chain of events was basically

2) Looking at the site at archive.org it definitely wasn't clear that they had permission to host this stuff.

1: pretty much thats how it went down.

2: they originally had it posted on the site that they had permission. Reed and Jackson called them liars and pirates. Things were sorted out with WOTC. WOTC asked the site to change some wording on their permissions. Not sure what. Its been a while.