Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 07, 2023, 12:23:28 AM
So, white straight normal men can't leave the hobby fast enough for his tastes.

Are you gonna try and obfuscate as per usual?

I mean it really sounds to me like he said that normal straight white guys "can't leave the hobby fast enough", but it does sound like there are two conversational threads.

I will say that if he said it about Jews or women or whatever, he'd have backtracked that instant and made sure his statement was clear, to avoid any semblance of an -ism.  Here he did no such thing.

Quote from: Venka on February 07, 2023, 02:55:28 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 07, 2023, 12:23:28 AM
So, white straight normal men can't leave the hobby fast enough for his tastes.

Are you gonna try and obfuscate as per usual?

I mean it really sounds to me like he said that normal straight white guys "can't leave the hobby fast enough", but it does sound like there are two conversational threads.

I will say that if he said it about Jews or women or whatever, he'd have backtracked that instant and made sure his statement was clear, to avoid any semblance of an -ism.  Here he did no such thing.

He's also have been shredded by the people he was talking to, they'd have stopped the stream, and he'd have been fired before his headphones were off, then a gushing apology would follow from WOTC, pledging over the top reforms.

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 07, 2023, 01:54:44 AM

Quote from: Zelen on February 07, 2023, 01:43:54 AM
I'm glad WOTC is putting their foot in it. Good opportunity for someone who doesn't hate the primary demographic that plays TTRPGs.

If someone here wants to make some money, all they have to do is interview at D&D and if they get lucky, Kyle is part of the hiring process.  Now if you don't get the job, pay attention to linkedin at WotC and see who was hired for the position.  Were they a black quadriplegic gay furry?  Congratulations you got a lawsuit for discrimination in hiring practices.  Just bring up the quote in the lawsuit and have fun.  What Kyle did was fuck himself.  Either he openly discriminates in hiring so WotC can not allow him to take part in hiring OR he wants to get rid of white players and make way for the Great Replacement.  That last statement fucked Kyle in a number of ways outing him as being a racist.  He really needs a pink satin klan hood with a rainbow sewed on it.

  The best thing an enemy can do for you is to openly tell you he is your enemy.  This allows you the moral fortitude to simply treat him as such.   My advice to all is to just let people telling you they are your enemy do so.  Then treat them as your enemy and be done.   I see way too much of people arguing back at folks who tell me they are my enemy (and I do it too).  I am done with that, if you state to me you are my enemy I believe you and treat you as such.  We should all start following that line of thinking.

Quote from: oggsmash on February 07, 2023, 05:45:22 AM

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 07, 2023, 01:54:44 AM

Quote from: Zelen on February 07, 2023, 01:43:54 AM
I'm glad WOTC is putting their foot in it. Good opportunity for someone who doesn't hate the primary demographic that plays TTRPGs.

If someone here wants to make some money, all they have to do is interview at D&D and if they get lucky, Kyle is part of the hiring process.  Now if you don't get the job, pay attention to linkedin at WotC and see who was hired for the position.  Were they a black quadriplegic gay furry?  Congratulations you got a lawsuit for discrimination in hiring practices.  Just bring up the quote in the lawsuit and have fun.  What Kyle did was fuck himself.  Either he openly discriminates in hiring so WotC can not allow him to take part in hiring OR he wants to get rid of white players and make way for the Great Replacement.  That last statement fucked Kyle in a number of ways outing him as being a racist.  He really needs a pink satin klan hood with a rainbow sewed on it.

  The best thing an enemy can do for you is to openly tell you he is your enemy.  This allows you the moral fortitude to simply treat him as such.   My advice to all is to just let people telling you they are your enemy do so.  Then treat them as your enemy and be done.   I see way too much of people arguing back at folks who tell me they are my enemy (and I do it too).  I am done with that, if you state to me you are my enemy I believe you and treat you as such.  We should all start following that line of thinking.

Yep. This is simply an example of socially acceptable racism, and it's disgusting.

Quote from: Kyle BrinkAnd I think there's been mistakes made in years past where people assumed that D&D players were all, y'know, white dudes in a basement. Which has been a faulty assumption for a lot of years and gets more and more false every day and so in my viewpoint, honestly, guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby.

It was never a correct assumption. But if the guy whose qualifications to try to run the D&D brand are his previous work on Guild Wars wants to leave, we won't miss him.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 07, 2023, 05:53:36 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on February 07, 2023, 05:45:22 AM

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 07, 2023, 01:54:44 AM

Quote from: Zelen on February 07, 2023, 01:43:54 AM
I'm glad WOTC is putting their foot in it. Good opportunity for someone who doesn't hate the primary demographic that plays TTRPGs.

If someone here wants to make some money, all they have to do is interview at D&D and if they get lucky, Kyle is part of the hiring process.  Now if you don't get the job, pay attention to linkedin at WotC and see who was hired for the position.  Were they a black quadriplegic gay furry?  Congratulations you got a lawsuit for discrimination in hiring practices.  Just bring up the quote in the lawsuit and have fun.  What Kyle did was fuck himself.  Either he openly discriminates in hiring so WotC can not allow him to take part in hiring OR he wants to get rid of white players and make way for the Great Replacement.  That last statement fucked Kyle in a number of ways outing him as being a racist.  He really needs a pink satin klan hood with a rainbow sewed on it.

  The best thing an enemy can do for you is to openly tell you he is your enemy.  This allows you the moral fortitude to simply treat him as such.   My advice to all is to just let people telling you they are your enemy do so.  Then treat them as your enemy and be done.   I see way too much of people arguing back at folks who tell me they are my enemy (and I do it too).  I am done with that, if you state to me you are my enemy I believe you and treat you as such.  We should all start following that line of thinking.

Yep. This is simply an example of socially acceptable racism, and it's disgusting.

  I would also stop using the word racism. It has ZERO meaning now it seems a word mostly used by my enemies to just mean white people need to die.

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 07, 2023, 02:58:25 AM

Quote from: Venka on February 07, 2023, 02:55:28 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 07, 2023, 12:23:28 AM
So, white straight normal men can't leave the hobby fast enough for his tastes.

Are you gonna try and obfuscate as per usual?

I mean it really sounds to me like he said that normal straight white guys "can't leave the hobby fast enough", but it does sound like there are two conversational threads.

I will say that if he said it about Jews or women or whatever, he'd have backtracked that instant and made sure his statement was clear, to avoid any semblance of an -ism.  Here he did no such thing.

He's also have been shredded by the people he was talking to, they'd have stopped the stream, and he'd have been fired before his headphones were off, then a gushing apology would follow from WOTC, pledging over the top reforms.

Unfortunately whats more likely is the useful idiots nodded sagely in agreement. Disgusted at their own horrible whiteness.

Well, I'm in agreement with him to be fair. I can't wait for 'guys like him' to leave the hobby. So good riddance to those self-flagellating sycophants.

At the end of the day, just I just ignore those insipid creeps and game away. Us 'real' honky cracka's are never going to leave the hobby. 

Quote from: Omega on February 07, 2023, 06:07:30 AM
nodded sagely in agreement.

I found that utterly hilarious and deeply weird at the same time. 

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on February 07, 2023, 05:55:43 AM
But if the guy whose qualifications to try to run the D&D brand are his previous work on Guild Wars wants to leave, we won't miss him.

Come on, he graduated from a perfectly good online diploma factory after flunking out of Humboldt State (a.k.a. Ganja U, for those unfamiliar). Clearly we cannot comprehend his genius!

What a tool.

The Guild Wars background doesn't bother me. What astounds me is (a) it's an amazingly dumb thing to say out loud, and (b) as people have noted, this neatly puts WotC in the crosshairs for discrimination lawsuits.

(There's a weird kind of symmetry here. ArenaNet turfed Jessica Price for being a narcissistic cunt and picking a fight with one of their biggest streamers, Deroir. Brink went from ArenaNet to WotC, as did Price. Hm.)

Quote from: Ghostmaker on February 07, 2023, 09:16:26 AM
The Guild Wars background doesn't bother me. What astounds me is (a) it's an amazingly dumb thing to say out loud, and (b) as people have noted, this neatly puts WotC in the crosshairs for discrimination lawsuits.

(There's a weird kind of symmetry here. ArenaNet turfed Jessica Price for being a narcissistic cunt and picking a fight with one of their biggest streamers, Deroir. Brink went from ArenaNet to WotC, as did Price. Hm.)

At DnD Beyond they are blocking any mention of that comment from him on the interview.  My favorite is how everyone is stating it was such a good interview there.   It's cute because its being posted on social media in a few places so far.  It's not a major blow up, but it does show perceived bias by Kyle against Whites.   

Use the lefts rules against them: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."   DnD is anti-racist so let's make them explain publicly to the player base why Kyle making an anti-white statement isn't racist.  If enough pressure can be built, it will be quite entertaining listening to them try to make a statement to moderates/conservatives about how it wasn't racist for Kyle to be anti-white.

If "white guys like me can't leave fast enough", why didn't he immediately announce his resignation?

What a hypocritical racist scum.  If he doesn't deserve his position because he's white, why does he still have it?  I cannot take seriously anyone on the "Whiteness is Evil" grift.

I've played D&D of and on since 1974.  Yes, there were times when it was just white pre-teens and teens, all male in a basement...though TBH we definitely had more gays represented than in the general population.  But if a girl wanted to join us, we'd probably fall over ourselves welcoming her (even if she wasn't hot--I mean, none of us were exactly 10s).  And the town I grew up in was nearly 100% white.  So yeah, the stereotype sometimes is true--often is true.  But it wasn't some kind of conspiracy (even an unconscious one) to keep out non-whites or girls.

But I guess we can just all go to hell according to him.  So screw him and his company.

Marxist inclusivity makes no sense, does it.