Quote from: Summon666 on May 15, 2023, 01:23:45 AM

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Maze Knights never came out.  Ben was asked about it in the comments section of the Knave 2 Kickstarter.  His response was "It's on the backburner right now because I wasn't making much progress on it."

It has been out for a long time, but only as a pdf.. there has never been a physical release.

Maze Rats has been out for a long time, as a pdf.  Maze Knights was supposed to be a more advanced version of Maze Rats, but that particular project never came out.  Unless I'm mistaken?

ahhh... oh right.. ok.. well rats then ; )

Quote from: Slambo on May 03, 2023, 10:51:06 AM
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He has 1 negative review iirc its of Dark Albion that he did early on before he was all paid reviews. He also deleted a positive review of ACKS

Well, with what he did to ACKs when he found out it was written by a badwrongfun person, and Pundit's politics not being a secret - I am inclined to have my filters up when evaluating the worth of his Dark Albion review...

Quote from: ForgottenF on May 03, 2023, 01:42:31 PM
...Dungeoncraft for example, falls back on the "I only review games I like" line, which come to think of it, would be a pretty good cover for when he is shilling. It's also worth pointing out that a reviewer doesn't have to be getting paid to have a conflict. Being friends with the creator is just as much of an influence on your judgment, if not more.

In doing this he actually does his followers a disservice.

For both of his reviews of WHFRP 4e, and The Witcher RPG; he outright ignores or misses known systematic issues in both games.

A BIG problem with his reviews is that he only uses other RPG's for idea mines for his homebrew game.

He doesn't actually play different games...

Quote from: Jaeger on May 15, 2023, 05:49:24 PM


A BIG problem with his reviews is that he only uses other RPG's for idea mines for his homebrew game.

This is definitely useful to know. If you're buying games for the same purpose, then his reviews may be useful. Otherwise at best they might tell you a game is worth taking a deeper look at.

I like that WIS is used for ranged attacks, and INT is used for traps. About time DEX got taken down a notch.

As I mentioned with Shadowdark. One of the things I love about the OSR is how decentralized it is. As an hypothetical example, If Pundit were to suddenly acquire brain damage and become a raving loon who cancels everyone and tells people not to play his games, that doesn't affect people who play LotFP or OSE. Shadowdark is going to bring in "people" (NPCs) who are used to 5e influencers telling them what to think and what to buy. We now have two instances of OSR influencers and content creators propping up their friends games. I do not want OSR content creators to become a nepotistic clique like Games Journalism. A clique that can dictate what is and isn't acceptable to review and play is effectively centralizing the OSR. Which WILL cause problems. OSR products often aren't really advertised without word of mouth from OSR adjacent content creators. Certainly there are games within the OSR now I wouldn't have known about without being talked about on You Tube and various forums. Word of mouth is powerful in advertising.  Do people want to live in a world where cool, unique and interesting OSR books get ignored for whatever will get the most views or satisfies a group of less than 1% of the OSR?

Quote from: King Tyranno on May 18, 2023, 08:09:44 AM
As I mentioned with Shadowdark. One of the things I love about the OSR is how decentralized it is. As an hypothetical example, If Pundit were to suddenly acquire brain damage and become a raving loon who cancels everyone and tells people not to play his games, that doesn't affect people who play LotFP or OSE. Shadowdark is going to bring in "people" (NPCs) who are used to 5e influencers telling them what to think and what to buy. We now have two instances of OSR influencers and content creators propping up their friends games. I do not want OSR content creators to become a nepotistic clique like Games Journalism. A clique that can dictate what is and isn't acceptable to review and play is effectively centralizing the OSR. Which WILL cause problems. OSR products often aren't really advertised without word of mouth from OSR adjacent content creators. Certainly there are games within the OSR now I wouldn't have known about without being talked about on You Tube and various forums. Word of mouth is powerful in advertising.  Do people want to live in a world where cool, unique and interesting OSR books get ignored for whatever will get the most views or satisfies a group of less than 1% of the OSR?

So folks who happen to follow a 5e adventure designer like the Shadowdark author aren't real "people?"
And if I were to publish a game it would be wrong for my friends to recommend it on social media?
Or is it only certain people who aren't allowed to do that?
Who decides?
Who exactly makes up the OSR YouTube purity committee?

Cool unique games get ignored every day. Been happening for as long as there has been a TTRPG hobby.
Welcome to the real world.

Quote from: Festus on May 18, 2023, 06:29:54 PM

Quote from: King Tyranno on May 18, 2023, 08:09:44 AM
As I mentioned with Shadowdark. One of the things I love about the OSR is how decentralized it is. As an hypothetical example, If Pundit were to suddenly acquire brain damage and become a raving loon who cancels everyone and tells people not to play his games, that doesn't affect people who play LotFP or OSE. Shadowdark is going to bring in "people" (NPCs) who are used to 5e influencers telling them what to think and what to buy. We now have two instances of OSR influencers and content creators propping up their friends games. I do not want OSR content creators to become a nepotistic clique like Games Journalism. A clique that can dictate what is and isn't acceptable to review and play is effectively centralizing the OSR. Which WILL cause problems. OSR products often aren't really advertised without word of mouth from OSR adjacent content creators. Certainly there are games within the OSR now I wouldn't have known about without being talked about on You Tube and various forums. Word of mouth is powerful in advertising.  Do people want to live in a world where cool, unique and interesting OSR books get ignored for whatever will get the most views or satisfies a group of less than 1% of the OSR?

So folks who happen to follow a 5e adventure designer like the Shadowdark author aren't real "people?"

NPCs are not real people. No. I'm glad we can agree on that.

Ben Milton has always been pro-OSR. I find his reviews informative. I hope his kickstarter does well even if i have no interest.

Quote from: King Tyranno on May 18, 2023, 08:09:44 AM
As I mentioned with Shadowdark. One of the things I love about the OSR is how decentralized it is. As an hypothetical example, If Pundit were to suddenly acquire brain damage and become a raving loon who cancels everyone and tells people not to play his games, that doesn't affect people who play LotFP or OSE. Shadowdark is going to bring in "people" (NPCs) who are used to 5e influencers telling them what to think and what to buy. We now have two instances of OSR influencers and content creators propping up their friends games. I do not want OSR content creators to become a nepotistic clique like Games Journalism. A clique that can dictate what is and isn't acceptable to review and play is effectively centralizing the OSR. Which WILL cause problems. OSR products often aren't really advertised without word of mouth from OSR adjacent content creators. Certainly there are games within the OSR now I wouldn't have known about without being talked about on You Tube and various forums. Word of mouth is powerful in advertising.  Do people want to live in a world where cool, unique and interesting OSR books get ignored for whatever will get the most views or satisfies a group of less than 1% of the OSR?

I got news for you, gaming is already that.  The OSR is a niche of a niche of a niche and that's not going to change. You have people with hard-ons/hate-ons for any given OSR game.  It's not hard to see.  Hell, the NPC comment you spewed out just goes to show what clique you are in.

But guess what?  You, and many others, are still going to be able to find alternatives you prefer in the same way that you currently do.  They aren't going anywhere.  The only difference is that maybe someone, somewhere is more likely to veer off and try something that isn't D&D.

as long as people move away from DnD its all good.. if it is an OSR game or not. : )

Quote from: King Tyranno on May 18, 2023, 08:36:06 PM

Quote from: Festus on May 18, 2023, 06:29:54 PM

Quote from: King Tyranno on May 18, 2023, 08:09:44 AM
As I mentioned with Shadowdark. One of the things I love about the OSR is how decentralized it is. As an hypothetical example, If Pundit were to suddenly acquire brain damage and become a raving loon who cancels everyone and tells people not to play his games, that doesn't affect people who play LotFP or OSE. Shadowdark is going to bring in "people" (NPCs) who are used to 5e influencers telling them what to think and what to buy. We now have two instances of OSR influencers and content creators propping up their friends games. I do not want OSR content creators to become a nepotistic clique like Games Journalism. A clique that can dictate what is and isn't acceptable to review and play is effectively centralizing the OSR. Which WILL cause problems. OSR products often aren't really advertised without word of mouth from OSR adjacent content creators. Certainly there are games within the OSR now I wouldn't have known about without being talked about on You Tube and various forums. Word of mouth is powerful in advertising.  Do people want to live in a world where cool, unique and interesting OSR books get ignored for whatever will get the most views or satisfies a group of less than 1% of the OSR?

So folks who happen to follow a 5e adventure designer like the Shadowdark author aren't real "people?"

NPCs are not real people. No. I'm glad we can agree on that.

Well ain't you special!

Quote from: King Tyranno on May 18, 2023, 08:09:44 AM
As I mentioned with Shadowdark. One of the things I love about the OSR is how decentralized it is. As an hypothetical example, If Pundit were to suddenly acquire brain damage and become a raving loon who cancels everyone and tells people not to play his games, that doesn't affect people who play LotFP or OSE. Shadowdark is going to bring in "people" (NPCs) who are used to 5e influencers telling them what to think and what to buy. We now have two instances of OSR influencers and content creators propping up their friends games. I do not want OSR content creators to become a nepotistic clique like Games Journalism. A clique that can dictate what is and isn't acceptable to review and play is effectively centralizing the OSR. Which WILL cause problems. OSR products often aren't really advertised without word of mouth from OSR adjacent content creators. Certainly there are games within the OSR now I wouldn't have known about without being talked about on You Tube and various forums. Word of mouth is powerful in advertising.  Do people want to live in a world where cool, unique and interesting OSR books get ignored for whatever will get the most views or satisfies a group of less than 1% of the OSR?

You sound extremely bitter and angry about people looking into the OSR to see what it is like and instead of finding it a friendly place full of new and unique ideas not behelden to a corporate greed machine they see raving gatekeepers who screech like howler monkies when approached. God forbid if James Raggi and Kelsey Dione sit down and have a discussion about rules and concepts and agree/disagree on things. 

Try doing the opposite and you'll see the flood gates of 'normies' coming to the OSR in droves away from the 5E train. 

I can't wait to see folks doing mental backflips if Critical Role's new gaming system is OSR based.